--- Log for 27.10.114 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 16 hours ago 00.00.14 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 34.0/20141023111813]) 00.02.03 Quit seeegma (Quit: Page closed) 00.11.44 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 00.21.13 Join ungali [0] (~ungali@unaffiliated/ungali) 00.44.36 Quit [Franklin] (Quit: Lost terminal) 01.08.05 Quit ender` (Quit: Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, even though I'm not yet sure about the universe. -- A. Einstein) 01.15.11 Quit gevaerts (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01.15.11 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01.36.54 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 01.37.23 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 01.53.04 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 01.56.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.58.32 Quit Aldem (Quit: Leaving) 02.01.31 Quit Mir (Remote host closed the connection) 02.08.10 Join DeadClipZip [0] (182ca47a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.44.164.122) 02.08.15 # Hello. 02.08.20 # Anyone here? 02.08.23 # I need help. 02.08.37 # With my Sansa Clip Zip with Rockbox. 02.10.24 Join Mir [0] (~Mir@pool-100-32-91-185.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) 02.10.37 # Hello? 02.10.41 # Anyone here? 02.10.46 # El Psy Congroo 02.11.06 # Mir 02.11.07 # ? 02.11.09 # You here 02.11.11 # Hello. 02.11.17 # hmm 02.11.27 # * Mir whacks DeadClipZip 02.11.56 # Can you help me fix my Dead CLip Zip? 02.12.00 # 100 percent serious. 02.12.02 # It died on me. 02.12.09 # And I need it for tomorrow. 02.12.20 # I left it to die for 4 days and nothing. 02.12.23 # Doesn't turn back on. 02.12.35 # Tried reset button method nothing. 02.12.52 # sounds like you bricked it somehow 02.13.00 # My computer doesn't recognize it. 02.13.12 # USB not recognized 02.13.28 # I used MSC mode on it and it showed it had 4mb raw 02.13.38 # what was the last thing you did before it broke 02.13.51 # I was out running with it while it played music. 02.14.00 # Than i switched the songs and it froze. 02.14.09 # Turned it off via reset method like I've done before 02.14.18 # And it never turned on since then. 02.14.27 # I've been googling like crazy. 02.14.42 # I wouldn't care normally but I have songs on there I've been collecting on it for a year. 02.14.57 # Downloading everything again would be torture man. ;/ 02.15.01 # Anyway to unbrick it? 02.15.37 # all i have is a clip a clip+ fuze fuze+ and some C/E 200's 02.15.44 # as wellas some non-sansa stuff 02.16.00 # the only people i know capable of knowing are in europe 02.16.12 # Clip+ and Clip Zip are basically the same 02.16.12 # and sadly it is tomorrow morning in europe 02.16.25 # Do you think they could help? 02.16.29 # kinda and kinda not 02.16.33 # Maybe you could give me their emails or something? 02.16.42 # It did this once before. 02.16.51 # And I left it for a week or more I think. 02.17.05 # what makes you think i know their email 02.17.10 # Than I went back to it and it turned off but it was very low battery. 02.17.18 # I[21:16] the only people i know capable of knowing are in europe 02.17.25 # yea 02.17.25 # I thought you meant on the internet lol. 02.17.33 # In real life then? 02.17.41 # * Mir points to the channel list that DeadClipZip just pinged (‡▼益▼) 02.18.10 # If they can't fix it, anyway to take out the music than? 02.18.20 # they would know 02.18.21 # Maybe open it up and take the internal storage or something? 02.18.27 # and who specificly i dont know 02.18.30 # BUT 02.18.38 # this isnt something that will be fixed now 02.18.42 # like right now 02.18.52 # so hold your horses and lurk and idle here 02.19.04 # if your music is that impotiant you must have patience 02.19.12 # this is how the IRC works 02.19.22 # I will check again in the morning. I will leave the computer on. 02.19.32 # Did you ever fix a bricked sansa? 02.19.58 # yes 02.20.10 # How did you do it? 02.20.20 # And does bricked = dead and unresponsive? 02.20.36 # bricked == as useful as a brick 02.21.14 # and my Fuze+ had a bad OFW flash 02.21.55 # dont remember how i fixed it 02.21.58 # but i did 02.22.05 # with rockbox <3 02.26.28 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-201-186.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) 02.28.35 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.32.28 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-106-92.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 02.34.35 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.35.13 Join [Saint_] [0] (77e026d8@rockbox/staff/saint) 02.35.53 # heavy breathing hello saint 02.36.55 # <[Saint_]> I....what? 02.37.07 # * [Saint_] feels he's missing something 02.41.23 # <[Saint_]> DeadClipZip: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick 02.41.54 # <[Saint_]> But, realistically, you just learned a very valuable lesson on removable storage. 02.42.19 # <[Saint_]> Never, ever, ever ever ever, rely on a digital audio player as a means of primary archival. 02.47.43 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 02.48.58 # <[Saint_]> DeadClipZip: I feel I should point out that either way, your NOT getting your audio back. 02.49.10 # <[Saint_]> So, if that's the only reason for the crusade, give up. 02.50.37 # <[Saint_]> If you follow the restoration procedure linked above there's about an 80% possibility you'll make the situation even worse, probably damaging the hardware irreparably, a 20% chance of it actually succeeding, and a 0% chance on getting any data that was on there back. 02.54.37 # <[Saint_]> I realize that's not what you want to hear, but, them's the breaks sorry. 02.57.44 # I got a dead clip+ but i suspect I wore flash memory out on it 02.57.59 # daily 3gb writes for year+ 02.58.10 # not evne gonna bother trying to unbrick 03.00.00 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 03.05.09 # Damn. 03.05.44 # Lol. 03.06.02 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 03.06.03 # I'll just wait another week and see if the battery dies out and it resets itself. 03.08.35 Quit DeadClipZip (Quit: Page closed) 03.09.17 # * [Saint_] hates being the bearer of bad news 03.09.36 # <[Saint_]> ...depending who it is. 03.11.04 Quit randumbum (Quit: Leaving) 03.12.01 Quit stickyb1t (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 03.13.00 # <[Saint_]> bad news Mir.... you are an incurable cancer. 03.13.04 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@92.40.248.189.threembb.co.uk) 03.13.05 # \o/ 03.13.10 # best news evar 03.13.52 Quit stickyb1t (Client Quit) 03.14.23 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 03.56.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.03.07 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.03.08 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.03.08 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.03.09 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.03.11 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.03.11 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.18.22 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.29.09 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-252-230.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 04.36.20 Quit [Saint_] (Quit: Page closed) 04.38.20 Join randumbum [0] (~randumbum@63-155-158-23.eugn.qwest.net) 05.02.35 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 05.13.04 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.13.16 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.57.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.58.20 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-239-68.mcn.bellsouth.net) 06.03.22 Quit stickyb1t (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 06.05.18 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@92.40.249.30.threembb.co.uk) 06.06.25 Quit stickyb1t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.24.01 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.15.52 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.35.27 Join kugel__ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 07.36.15 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@212.44.150.238) 07.39.16 Nick kugel__ is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 07.40.23 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 07.56.54 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 07.56.54 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 07.57.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.57.47 Join amiconn [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 07.57.47 Join pixelma [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.17.24 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 08.18.14 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.28.36 Quit Bluefoxicy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08.29.15 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.29.34 Join Bluefoxicy [0] (~Bluefoxic@c-76-21-157-203.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 08.38.25 Join Tribarrel [0] (~Tribarrel@173-16-177-76.client.mchsi.com) 08.39.28 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 08.41.08 Quit shai (Client Quit) 08.43.16 # I was looking for information on the status of the iPod Classic 6th Generation build-has there been any major progress? What about the architecture of the device prohibits dual-booting, while earlier iPods can do it fine? 08.48.43 Join petur [0] (5bb7304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.183.48.77) 08.48.47 Quit petur (Changing host) 08.48.47 Join petur [0] (5bb7304d@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.59.43 # Is there a better time to ask? 09.01.09 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09.31.40 Join Ararat [0] (~Pablo@unaffiliated/spaceghost) 09.40.54 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.41.00 Quit ungali (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.57.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.15.36 Join Geoff_0ijfng [0] (~qua@192.3.27.126) 10.29.40 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 10.30.17 Join Mir_ [0] (~Mir@pool-100-32-91-185.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) 10.30.33 Quit Mir (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.04.55 # nope 11.05.02 # you ask and get ignored 11.05.08 # or submit patches. 11.06.34 # Tribarrel: best one to ask is TheSeven, currently away though 11.16.16 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 11.16.28 # pamaury: did you try anything on e100? 11.16.48 # no I was interrupted unfortunately, I successfully disassemble it though 11.17.50 # pamaury: When you have it in pieces could you get a photo? The one on IriverE100Internals is horrible 11.18.06 # yeah I took a few pictures, I will upload them 11.18.22 # by the way, the wiki is missing links between the relevant pages for the E100/E150 11.18.54 # pamaury: I get in touch with s1mp3 developer and he expressed interest to look at BROM dump from atj213x. 11.18.57 # for example from ATJ to E100 or E150, I'm not even sure I know all the pages 11.20.41 # pamaury: yeah, I know. There are 4 relevant pages I think : IriverE150Info, IriverE100Internals, ATJ213xFirmware and IriverEseries 11.27.45 Join Scruff [0] (Scruff@i.am.scruffyrules.com) 11.28.01 Part Scruff ("Caio!") 11.54.34 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 11.57.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.01.47 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.02.50 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 12.08.32 # Tribarrel: there's no architectural issue with dualboot 12.09.11 # just that we had problems with the original firmware making some weird assumptions about hardware state when it takes over control, making it crash when booted through our code 12.09.16 # that has been solved in the meantime though 12.09.57 # now it's just waiting for someone to wrap it all up and make it usable for end users 12.12.23 # TheSeven: When you are around - have you found out whats wrong with recentish ata driver? 12.12.36 # TheSeven: I mean on 6g 12.12.51 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-252-230.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 12.12.51 # wodz: the error number that was posted in the forums isn't conclusive 12.13.08 # that number implies ceata == !ceata ;) 12.13.22 # TheSeven: We are not flooded with failure reports so I would suspect it has to do with particular hw revision or disk or something 12.15.31 # yeah, but it still doesn't make sense 12.15.42 # try following the code path yourself if you want to 12.15.46 # I might be overlooking something 12.15.58 # TheSeven: I guess you didn't find time to play with usb core also 12.16.14 # you can backtrace where the error occurred by looking at the PASS_RC macros 12.16.42 # those basically take a return code, shift it by a number of bits to the left, or some bits on the right, and set bit 31 12.17.07 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 12.17.23 # so the rightmost bits tell you which PASS_RC (or similar) statement of the outermost function contained the crash 12.17.46 # then look at that function, with the error number shifted to the right accordingly 12.17.56 # smart 12.18.26 # that error number is 0x8000006a 12.18.39 # error 6A decodes to 0-5-x => no CEATA, ata_set_feature(ata_bbt ? 0x82 : 0x02, 0) failing 12.18.39 # however that further decodes to 0-5-2-1, and 0-5-2 only exists in the CEATA driver 12.18.50 # so I'm kinda lost how that can happen 12.19.09 # the logical conclusion is that I'm decoding it wrong 12.20.45 # and no, I didn't have time to look at the USB thing yet 12.21.00 # but I got my other classic back in the meantime 12.21.29 # so let's have a try with that one 12.21.52 # your file was named "rockbox_designware.zip", and I downloaded it on september 26, does that make sense? 12.22.35 # you mean the build with official toolchain? 12.23.08 # yeah, the build that you sent me for testing 12.23.14 # which failed on my 160GB classic 12.23.27 # trying it on the CF-modded classic (originally 80GB) now 12.23.47 # The date looks resonable. I can't remember if this build was with timeouts or not 12.24.12 # I think [Saint] said that it just worked, even without timeouts, on his classic, right? 12.25.44 # that's build 30663c9-140922 12.25.53 # TheSeven: I would take this with grain of salt. All Later tests failed for him even with macro evaluating to pure while() statement. I don't think it is possible as busyloops where the only change in driver. 12.26.16 # *were 12.26.30 # oh, I wasn't aware that others could reproduce this at all 12.27.21 # reproduce what? hard lock? 12.27.31 # yes 12.27.33 # and yes, it hard freezes on my other ipod as well 12.28.28 # so, tell me why my ethernet driver doesn't work, so that I get some time to actually look into this ;) 12.29.11 # :-) 12.30.20 # most nasty kind of bug ever... I say "start DMA engine", and the hardware says "yes, I'll do", but never actually does it 12.30.50 # clock gate problem? 12.31.27 # it sure looks like one, but the registers react, and I've enabled every single clock gate that I could find on this chip 12.31.27 # I saw dma engines with separate clk gate bits for register access and actual transfer 12.31.44 # i.e. just smashed everything with 0xffffffff 12.32.14 # to make mattery worse, I have a driver that works on the very same device 12.32.17 # matters* 12.32.31 # and I fail to spot any important difference 12.32.42 # the failing one is basically the working one translated to C++ 12.32.58 # thats very frustrating 12.32.59 # setting the same bits in the same regs in the same order 12.33.22 # so it really looks like the cause is outside of that driver... but where!? 13.11.51 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.49.51 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13.50.58 Quit dys (Remote host closed the connection) 13.51.17 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-239-68.mcn.bellsouth.net) 13.52.19 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@chello084114129144.4.15.vie.surfer.at) 13.57.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.07.42 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 14.35.40 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.46.47 Quit Ararat (Quit: Leaving.) 14.58.51 Quit Geoff_0ijfng (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.18.40 Join maruk1 [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 15.20.15 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Leaving) 15.29.07 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.30.39 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 15.57.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.57.23 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 16.05.38 Part LinusN 16.08.12 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.16.42 Join dys [0] (~user@2a01:1e8:e100:8296:21a:4dff:fe4e:273a) 16.22.33 Quit randumbum (Quit: Leaving) 16.39.20 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.45.31 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 16.45.34 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EEBFDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.56.03 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 17.11.38 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.20.21 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.29.45 # Thank you for the explanation, TheSeven. 17.29.58 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-176-199-76-43.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de) 17.30.14 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 17.34.31 Join deadBorg [0] (~hob@149.3.137.135) 17.36.06 # Also, thanks for the help pixelma. 17.40.13 # hi 17.40.21 # any idea about this problem? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,33951.msg230108.html#msg230108 17.40.59 Join randumbum [0] (~randumbum@63-155-158-23.eugn.qwest.net) 17.44.55 # I too am here asking questions, so you'll need to wait for an answer. You may be waiting a while-three hours, in my case. 17.45.24 # In the meantime, if you haven't yet, www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines read this. 17.45.35 # ok 17.46.05 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 17.57.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.08.02 Quit mortalis (Remote host closed the connection) 18.16.16 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.21.30 Quit maruk1 (Quit: Leaving.) 18.47.52 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 18.47.57 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 18.51.29 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 18.55.21 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 18.56.50 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.57.59 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g225255086.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.12.24 Nick maraz_ is now known as maraz (maraz@kapsi.fi) 19.13.18 Quit maraz (Quit: Reconnecting) 19.13.25 Join maraz [0] (maraz@kapsi.fi) 19.17.42 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.33.15 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 19.40.20 Join marcuy [0] (~Pablo@r190-135-106-234.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 19.44.05 Quit derf (Remote host closed the connection) 19.51.02 Join eternally_on [0] (~razir@192.sub-70-208-3.myvzw.com) 19.51.28 Quit marcuy (Changing host) 19.51.28 Join marcuy [0] (~Pablo@unaffiliated/spaceghost) 19.51.33 Nick marcuy is now known as Ararat (~Pablo@unaffiliated/spaceghost) 19.52.00 # Quick question for anyone active at the moment, has the USB Keypad Mode/ USB HID been removed from Rockbox on the 80GB iPod Classic? Been Googling for like half an hour on this topic and haven't found anything helpful. 19.53.41 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@ppp-42-1.26-151.libero.it) 19.53.47 Quit TheLemonMan (Changing host) 19.53.47 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 19.57.22 Nick Mir_ is now known as Mir (~Mir@pool-100-32-91-185.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) 19.57.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.04.34 Join st1ckyb1t [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 20.04.36 Quit stickyb1t (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.13.27 # Anyone? 20.50.49 Quit eternally_on (Quit: Leaving) 21.21.41 # why wouldn't creative zen x-fi 3 turn on? 21.21.49 # it doesn't get charged 21.22.04 # non of the buttons seem to work 21.22.26 # won't turn on so no recovery mode! 21.22.47 # this happened after i left it on and it used all its battery! 21.22.56 Join lonenode [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 21.23.19 Quit st1ckyb1t (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.24.17 # probably shouldn't have disabled "auto shutdown after x hours no button press" 21.24.53 # had it on for months but thought it was annoying and disabled it a few weeks ago and now i'm left with probably a dead battery 21.24.54 # :/ 21.26.04 # why would a battery get so emptied that it won't recharge again? 21.26.23 # the device is just like 10 months old 21.26.35 Quit lonenode (Client Quit) 21.26.54 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 21.27.28 # been using rockbox on it for the past 9 months but had it auto shutdown after like 30 minutes of no button-press so almost never had faced a drained battery 21.27.42 # just a few times 21.28.50 # deadBorg: I can't say for certain about the zen x-fi, I've never had one, but if I run my fuze+ al the way down, I have to find a usb charger that plugs in the wall to get it back, my PC won't do it 21.29.03 # all the way* 21.31.25 # i have a charger that uses direct ac from wall 21.31.34 # creative universal adapter 21.31.45 # been using it for many years for many products! 21.32.00 # neither this nor the pc would recharge the device 21.32.15 # connecting it to the pc is like nothing happened, no change in device manager 21.32.28 # not even a 'usb device something'! 21.35.56 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.38.06 Quit Provel (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21.38.45 Join Provel [0] (Provel@75-132-30-64.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 21.57.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.20.35 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: leaving) 22.56.52 # deadBorg: still there ? 23.01.21 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.02.47 # deadBorg: you must definitely be able to enter recovery mode, it can be entered without any battery, but make sure you do it right: plug the player, hold power and press the reset button at the same time while holding power. This should be 100% reliable. 23.03.39 # you may have to hold power for one or two seconds just to be sure 23.13.58 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 23.15.13 Join franklin [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com) 23.15.13 Nick franklin is now known as [Franklin] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com) 23.15.24 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: what could possibly cause rb->open to fail? 23.15.32 # <[Franklin]> (a file doesn't exist 23.15.36 # <[Franklin]> (b can't read file 23.16.34 # <[Franklin]> none of which apply 23.17.40 # TheSeven, you here? 23.18.08 # yes 23.20.09 # What's needed to wrap up the installer for the iPod Classic 6th Gen? It will now, theoretically, dual-boot yes? 23.20.24 # <[Franklin]> it can dual-boot? 23.20.28 # Tribarrel: the plan is to get completely rid of emcore 23.20.51 # which means basically cherrypicking all the required pieces from it into a rockbox bootloader 23.21.05 # with dualboot support, and with an easier and automated installation method 23.21.22 # [Franklin]: yes, dualboot has been fixed a few months ago, just not implemented in the boot menu yet 23.21.25 # That sounds great. Just need to wait for someone to be interested enough? 23.21.45 # * Tribarrel is looking at Rockbox because his base firmware will only load 3gigs of music. 23.21.58 # kinda... and I sadly don't have the time right now to do this (and I doubt that will get better before next year) 23.22.04 # <[Franklin]> what was wrong with dual-boot? (if anything) 23.22.16 # <[Franklin]> or just that no one felt like making it work? 23.22.17 # Couldn't be done, as I understand; emCORE just replaced it entirely 23.22.23 # [Franklin]: some hardware state assumptions by the OF that are kinda silly 23.22.26 # they figured it out but don't have it finalized 23.22.37 # <[Franklin]> not really 23.22.49 # <[Franklin]> apple thinks that they're the only one 23.22.57 # <[Franklin]> which was correct 23.23.02 # TheSeven, what languages are needed to finalize things, and how many hours would it take? 23.23.10 # mostly C 23.23.20 # * [Franklin] might try 23.23.29 # and how long it takes depends on a lot of factors, most importantly how well one knows this hardware and code base 23.23.39 # There's the rub, then. 23.24.21 # anyway, there's a lot of side tasks that people could try to get out of the way to allow me to focus on the real thing once I have time ;) 23.24.22 # I'd try to learn it, but uh, any of my attempts to learn anything are tedious and sisyphean due to anxiety and self doubt 23.24.29 # <[Franklin]> but some assembler, right? 23.24.38 # to clarify: with six months and a very patient teacher I failed to make it beyond basic commands in Lua 23.24.53 # * [Franklin] is probably not up to the task 23.25.02 # <[Franklin]> I can't even figure out why open() is failing... 23.25.04 # <[Franklin]> LOL 23.25.08 # [Franklin]: I can take care of the lowlevel stuff, that's not the problem 23.25.19 # i.e. flashing, early HW init, DFU boot, ... 23.25.22 # <[Franklin]> what is, then? 23.25.47 # but there are highlevel tasks like implementing the rockbox bootloader (UI, button handling, decision what to boot, etc.) 23.25.58 # <[Franklin]> can't be that hard, right? 23.26.18 # or getting various bugs fixed that are blocking it 23.26.34 # <[Franklin]> like what? 23.26.37 # http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Todo_list#1G.2F2G.2F3G_Classic is a good summary what could be done 23.26.55 # what's most important at this time is getting this designware driver fixed 23.27.13 # or rather wodz's port of it 23.27.23 # <[Franklin]> nah... too low-level for my liking :) 23.29.02 # I think I'm misunderstanding-is the 3G iPod Classic what Wikipedia refers to as the 6th Gen? 23.29.24 # <[Franklin]> 1G to 3G are all "6G"s 23.29.29 # <[Franklin]> it's confusing 23.29.34 # <[Franklin]> 6G=6G 23.29.40 # <[Franklin]> Classic 1G=6G 23.29.45 # <[Franklin]> classic 2G=6.5G 23.29.48 # <[Franklin]> classic 3G=7G 23.30.01 # <[Franklin]> 6.5G has 120GB 23.30.05 # That's mine, then. 23.30.44 # and back before the classic 3g existed, the 2g classic was called 7g :P 23.30.48 # <[Franklin]> TheSeven: there aren't that many hardware differences between the three, no? 23.30.57 # mostly different hard drives 23.31.07 # I let it sit for six months in a window and when I put a charge back on it it would refuse to load more than 3 gigs of music, refuse to load various songs at random, and occasionally hard crash from trying to play certain songs. 23.31.08 # and they introduced that headphone remote thing on the classic 3g I think 23.31.28 # <[Franklin]> so that's it? 23.31.30 # they also used a display from another manufacturer, but with the same specs 23.31.33 # Sooo I need Rockbox to make it anything more than an expensive paperweight. 23.31.48 # <[Franklin]> Tribarrel: it's good at that 23.31.53 # <[Franklin]> 6G at least 23.31.58 # <[Franklin]> very dense 23.31.59 # <[Franklin]> :) 23.32.03 # Also the capacity is listed at 111.something. 23.32.16 # <[Franklin]> yeah, the old GiB vs GB thing 23.32.17 # Tribarrel: sounds like a broken HDD. happens very often on old ipods :/ 23.32.31 # Oh, and even if I DID activate AppleCare, it would have expired in 2012! :D 23.32.45 # Shit like this is why I hate Apple, but it was a high school graduation present. 23.33.42 # So I'm hoping that when Rockbox gets ported to the iPod 6G it'll be more usable. 23.34.07 # when? 23.34.33 # If that fails, I'll sell it to a pawn shop and use the money to get...something else. Maybe a Sandisk Sansa. 23.34.53 # I mean, it still KINDA works! 23.34.55 # <[Franklin]> Tribarrel: rockbox is 99.99% usable on the classic 23.34.59 Nick soap_ is now known as soap (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 23.35.07 # <[Franklin]> DOOM needs a patch, and metronome doesn't work 23.35.09 # <[Franklin]> but that's it 23.35.43 # <[Franklin]> after you install, that is 23.36.35 # Wellll...I happen to really like Klondike Solitaire. <:D 23.41.00 # [Franklin] I'm pulling down your changes, sorry for dropping out yesterday an urgent matter came up suddenly 23.48.26 # [Franklin] Nice! it made it to the copy protection screen, congratulations 23.50.32 # * foolsh sets off the compile gdb 23.57.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"