--- Log for 11.11.114 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 10 hours ago 00.05.03 Quit ZincAlloy1 (Quit: Leaving.) 00.05.49 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: your diagonal code complicates this :( 00.06.56 # can't not have it, then he can't jump :) 00.07.07 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: lol 00.08.15 # Yeah, I started adding diagonals to rockboy and saw first hand the difficulties 00.08.35 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: it's not hard 00.08.39 # <[Franklin]> it just complicates things a bit 00.09.16 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: I'll try to do it myself, but I'll probably screw up somewhere 00.12.45 Join Naked [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 00.16.53 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 00.21.24 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00.23.11 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: I got the rotation working 00.23.18 # <[Franklin]> (haven't tested fuze *yet*) 00.25.38 # [Franklin]: don't worry, I'll work any bugs if I find them 00.25.46 # work out* 00.25.50 # <[Franklin]> ok then 00.25.56 # <[Franklin]> &pushing untested code* 00.25.59 # <[Franklin]> * 00.26.41 # I'll work on adding the keymaps then tonight and tomorrow then 00.27.15 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: check the fuze+ diagonals, definitely though 00.27.24 # <[Franklin]> I almost certainly screwed up somewhere :) 00.27.31 # thats fine 00.28.00 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: also, consider moving the keymaps to a different file 00.28.11 # <[Franklin]> and make it obvious they're keymaps 00.28.15 # <[Franklin]> so no "mapping.h" :) 00.28.18 # <[Franklin]> keymaps.h 00.28.45 # sure thing, alright sounds fine 00.29.00 # * [Franklin] needs to get save/load working 00.32.45 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 00.36.46 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: I can't test it in the sim, either, because pressing HOME won't go to the menu 00.38.44 # it read my card... 00.39.01 # <[Franklin]> jln: ??? 00.39.21 # my sd 16gb card wont works with zen 00.39.33 # <[Franklin]> jln: rockbox? 00.39.42 # <[Franklin]> and format? 00.40.07 # no. sd card say init failed -2 00.40.25 # so... i just put break ;> then return -2 in init loop... 00.40.28 # and it works. 00.40.44 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: any way I can change sim button mappings? 00.41.00 # yes, 00.41.02 # <[Franklin]> how? 00.41.05 # hang on 00.41.13 # it is not solution. but... card respond 1AA, but then fail. even pamaury say it has no sense... 00.41.44 # ./firmware/target/hosted/sdl/sim-ui-defines.h 00.41.45 # we fix it later as it should be with pamaury. if he care. 00.41.52 # I think let me make sure 00.42.11 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: that's not keymaps 00.42.13 # no thts not it 00.43.33 # in ./uisimulator/buttonmap/ 00.48.45 # <[Franklin]> aha 00.49.40 # <[Franklin]> ok building... 00.50.00 # no num pad? 00.50.30 Quit ender` (Quit: I just read a book about Stockholm Syndrome. It was pretty bad at first, but by the end I kinda liked it.) 00.50.32 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: home isn't going through 00.50.36 # <[Franklin]> linux maybe? 00.51.08 # hmm it works here 00.51.50 # works on target to so I have no idea what could cause it 00.51.54 # <[Franklin]> hmm??? it isn't working 00.52.01 # <[Franklin]> I set it to escape 00.53.11 # <[Franklin]> ok sorry gotta run 00.53.16 # bye 00.53.16 Quit [Franklin] (Remote host closed the connection) 00.58.28 # jln: I wonder if a time out for SD card and then jump to break ;> then return -2 in init loop, would be a good solution 00.58.49 # pamaury will be around in the morning anyways 01.23.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.03.26 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 02.11.43 Quit Makinit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.12.29 Join Makinit [0] (makinit@makinit.nl) 02.13.08 Quit Makinit (Excess Flood) 02.13.13 Quit igitoor (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.14.10 Join Makinit [0] (makinit@makinit.nl) 02.17.41 Quit Makinit (Excess Flood) 02.17.51 Join Makinit [0] (makinit@makinit.nl) 02.22.09 # time fix nothing. i try 5s timeout, it returns -2 after 5s, when plug out card it returns -100 02.23.59 # i do some other fixes. gameboy ;) (framedrop automation is broken for zen anyway), zx (some keybindings from menu, select on shortcut button), pacman rotated keys ;) ... if anyone care i may diff it. 02.24.52 Quit Makinit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.27.21 Join Makinit [0] (makinit@makinit.nl) 02.31.30 Join igitoor [0] (igitur@2a00:d880:3:1::c1ca:a648) 02.31.46 Quit igitoor (Changing host) 02.31.47 Join igitoor [0] (igitur@unaffiliated/contempt) 02.33.55 Join franklin [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com) 02.33.55 Nick franklin is now known as [Franklin] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com) 02.34.12 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: sorry about dropping out like that 02.36.16 # <[Franklin]> anyway, I can't seem to get saving to work 02.37.15 # <[Franklin]> seems like yet another issue with the File class :( 02.38.07 # <[Franklin]> (and no, I turned off gzip) 02.39.03 # <[Franklin]> argh... never mind 02.39.09 # <[Franklin]> it was lack of O_CREAT flag 02.39.22 # <[Franklin]> ok that's good, saving works 02.40.58 Quit igitoor (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.41.48 Join igitoor [0] (igitur@2a00:d880:3:1::c1ca:a648) 02.43.39 # <[Franklin]> ok yay! loading now works! 02.46.47 Quit igitoor (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.48.50 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: I think the uncompress saves ought to be distingushed from the compressed ones 02.49.09 # <[Franklin]> yeah, how about "BBFW" as the signature, eh? :D 02.50.05 Quit Makinit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.52.47 # <[Franklin]> though it'll be WFBB on little-endian targets 02.56.17 Quit alucryd (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.56.48 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 261 seconds) 03.00.01 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 03.01.48 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 03.01.53 Join Makinit [0] (makinit@makinit.nl) 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(~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 09.30.05 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 09.34.30 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.34.31 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09.44.59 Join rela [0] (~x@pD9E54540.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.45.01 Quit rela (Changing host) 09.45.01 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 09.49.05 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/stripwax) 09.51.48 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 10.00.37 # jln: ping 11.04.58 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11.08.10 # pamaury: pong 11.08.43 # did you get anywhere with sd ? 11.08.49 # it works 11.09.07 # what did you change ? 11.09.19 # i finaly ignore then return -2 (break) 11.09.31 # urg 11.09.43 # and it works. so the answer from card is read as busy when it is not busy 11.10.06 # that card is just broken 11.10.19 # weird? but it was more weird when it answer 1AA, then not answer... 11.10.42 # what do you mean does not answer ? 11.11.02 # <[Saint]> that's fairly up there on the sd weird-shit-o-meter. 11.11.04 # i mean answer busy 11.11.10 # <[Saint]> oh. 11.11.31 # anyway. i leav it for me. ;) (break) 11.11.42 # i do some other fixes. gameboy ;) (framedrop automation is broken for zen anyway), zx (some keybindings from menu, select on shortcut button), pacman rotated keys ;) ... if anyone care i may diff it. 11.11.46 # it should answer 0x1AA to SD_SEND_IF_COND, that's normal, then the MSB of the answer to SD_APP_OP_COND indicates busy status 11.12.42 # if that problem ocure somewhere else, we may chech/read what the card is answering 11.12.52 # then it will be clear. 11.13.10 # I'd be interesting in a readout of the card answers yes, I'll send you a patch to do that 11.13.33 # i do it myself 11.13.52 # or tell me what to paste to 11.14.06 # panicf(...) the simplest way 11.14.49 # no panic is not okay, I'd like the full log, using logf 11.15.50 # will check this in few moments. 11.16.38 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 11.17.16 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 11.18.02 # something like this http://pastebin.com/hyFHZBz7 11.18.14 # you need to enable logf in configure 11.21.06 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11.23.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.32.48 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 11.36.00 # so my card SDMMC_INFO(drive).ocr is : 16744448 ( while(!(SDMMC_INFO(drive).ocr & (1<<31))); this one never finish the loop ) 11.37.57 # what should (?) bit 31 indicate? (or i m not sure how it is working here...?) 11.38.39 # SDMMC_INFO(drive).ocr binary 0b10110011101000100010001001000 11.39.16 # SDMMC_INFO(drive).ocr binary 0b00010110011101000100010001001000 11.40.25 # what I'd like to get is the full log, for example to see how many times the command is sent 11.41.50 # send full zip and tell what to do (will log be on device to get via usb/massstorage?) 12.08.50 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.14.15 # it is something even more... it works after power up with card. but when card removed during device is up, it say -100 or -3 ... ?? 12.17.28 # other card sometimes fail too (-3) - and it was first time i try rb too. panic after plug cards. You have same problems sometimes? or it just my device? 12.18.33 # panic after plug might happen if you push the card too slowly or insert it incompletely 12.18.47 # but error -3 no that's very unusual 12.18.50 # hm... i plug rather normaly 12.19.07 # maybe some aditional delay after card detect before init it may be fine 12.19.31 # you wish try my -2 (full log?) or it not much important for You ? 12.19.56 # i also find something weird... 12.20.12 # sometimes when (sd ??) file was played... it get works pretty slow 12.20.31 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 12.20.58 # I don't have the time right now to send you the zip but I will do later 12.21.12 # that keys sometimes was read and sometimes not. and after (not easy) click pause - it back to normality. it is known? it ocurs ocasionaly (i belive) but i not tested/use it much yet 12.21.21 # maybe I should increase the delay between insertion detection and probing, but that's already 250ms I think 12.21.54 # maybe power of power on is not nesesayr? 12.22.35 # it's more a mechanical problem, if the card is still moving, when starting init, it will probably fail 12.22.57 # I should probably get rid of this panic too and have the OS retry init several times 12.23.07 # we dont know it say 1AA then. if it not read 1AA on first cmd it just get card as not v2? 12.23.27 # or. 12.23.33 # it might not panic 12.23.36 # just retry 12.24.02 # and i get lots of wsod on boot 12.24.34 # says 0x1AA is 0x100 (means 2.7-3.6V range) and says is check pattern 12.24.42 # the device responds with the same check pattern as the host sends 12.24.57 # s/says/yes 12.25.00 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12.25.41 # hmmm... anyway. it is something to be sorted around sd here 12.25.50 # and bott up hangs up? 12.26.50 # someones say here the "firmware format" will not hangup ... but i can put files on rockbox filesystem creative made?? or it has not sense at all. will change nothing. 12.27.28 # 1415626228 Without me formatting the zen using the recovery tool it would not get out of the WSOD 12.30.52 # jln: you are saying too many things at the same time, I cannot follow. One problem/question at a time is enough :) 12.32.32 # <[Saint]> are you using a translator? 12.32.44 # <[Saint]> Your English is largely nonsensical. 12.35.49 # no. my english is polish. ;) 12.36.31 # maybe translator may works sometimes better. but. 12.36.43 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 12.40.05 # jln: could you please list the problems you encountered (maybe post it on pastebon) with details, like 1) SD: my card doesn't work blablabla 2) Keys: under this circumstance, keys are not detected, and so on 12.40.06 # pamaury: just asking about hangs on boot. (~once a 4 times) it is not filesystem problem for sure? You know it or it just my device? 12.40.24 # ok ok :) 12.40.25 # you get WSOD ? 12.40.29 # yes 12.40.47 # that's a LCD problem, it's very random, some people suffer from it and some don't 12.41.00 # hm. 12.41.03 # I have two ZEN and one ZEN X-Fi, it works nearly all the time 12.41.27 # but it hangs? it is no way to turn off by power button (not sure 12.41.39 # or just lcd show white 12.41.42 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.42.08 # yes I know, it's because of a hardware bug, the hardware locks up and the entire system freezes 12.42.32 # basically the DMA unit crashes if you want the full details 12.42.43 # maybe... something is not pulled up and get random bit after power up? 12.43.03 # anyway OF not hanging 12.43.42 # yeah I know but it would take a long time to explain the full details of why the OF does not hang and rockbox does 12.43.57 # hm. 12.45.04 # but it is almost everything pretty fine now! :) 12.48.15 # sorry for my english. i know it sucks. 12.52.54 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 12.57.39 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.58.43 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 13.09.03 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 13.13.35 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.14.37 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.17.26 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 13.23.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.25.15 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 13.29.56 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 13.41.23 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 13.45.59 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14.16.59 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 14.20.25 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 14.20.50 Join krabador_ [0] (~krabador@host24-191-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.49.13 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@unaffiliated/sakax) 14.51.17 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EEB6BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.52.13 Join franklin [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com) 14.52.13 Nick franklin is now known as [Franklin] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com) 15.01.52 Quit rudi_s (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.01.52 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.02.21 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.02.32 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-212-67.mcn.bellsouth.net) 15.03.14 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 15.03.25 Join rudi_s [0] (~simon@ruderich.eu) 15.04.50 Join Topy44 [0] (topy@cl-406.cgn-01.de.sixxs.net) 15.06.20 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 15.08.43 Quit tchan (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 15.23.24 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 15.23.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.26.57 # <[Franklin]> ugh git... 15.27.14 # <[Franklin]> ok I just ran git pull (forgot --rebase option) 15.27.18 # <[Franklin]> and then I made some commits 15.27.55 # <[Franklin]> now I want to push them, but I can't, because it's pushing all the commits I just pulled 15.35.20 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.43.53 # welcome to git 15.44.17 # hope english isn't your second language, because even if it isn't youll struggle to understand anything it does. 15.44.42 # <[Franklin]> dongs: lol? 15.46.08 # [Franklin]: fetch ?? remote ?? push ?? rebase ?? cherrypick ?? track ?? all simple english words that completely change meaning when used with git. 15.46.31 # <[Franklin]> ok I got it pushed 15.46.40 # <[Franklin]> I needed to make a "clean" branch and cherry-pick the commit 15.46.55 # i'm glad you got that figured out 15.46.58 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 15.47.03 # i'll crawl back into my ESL corner and stick to visual source safe 15.47.08 # at least its something I can use and understand. 15.47.33 # i'm not a berry farmer so i dont need to worry about cherry picking or pushing stuff. 15.47.38 Part LinusN 15.49.46 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 15.50.37 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 15.51.37 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.03.13 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 16.06.28 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.06.45 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com) 16.07.49 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.13.30 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16.20.49 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: leaving) 16.22.17 Quit krabador_ (Quit: Sto andando via) 16.22.38 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 16.25.46 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@82.158.1.206.dyn.user.ono.com) 16.39.14 Quit mortalis (Remote host closed the connection) 17.12.22 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@i16-les01-ntr-212-194-176-149.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr) 17.18.10 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 17.23.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.32.22 Join perky_ [0] (5ddc5dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.220.93.209) 17.32.24 # hellou 17.34.09 # i have a problem with my ipod 6th gen - i have installed rockbox, from my PC, and all works fine. but as soon as i connect it to a mac, it crashes and dont show up 17.34.24 # anyone who can point me in any direction 17.35.30 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 17.37.34 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@m180.dkm.cz) 17.47.39 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 17.50.08 # perky_: you need to install a patched build, like this one: http://caudec.net/rockbox/rockbox-ipod6g-440ff95M-140517.zip or this one (latest dev build): http://caudec.net/rockbox/rockbox-ipod6g-bcca111M-141110-usbid_0x123A_0x456B.zip 17.50.20 # from your PC 17.50.40 # ahh oki. but i just installed a fresh rockbox... but i should still do that 17.50.41 # ? 17.50.43 # then reboot the iPod, and you'll be able to connect it to a computer with OS X installed 17.51.01 # yes, those builds have bogus USB IDs 17.51.01 # ok many thanks - i will try that 17.51.19 # and how do i do that? it will maybe expain itself 17.51.42 # mount the iPod on your PC, unpack the .zip archive onto the root of the mountpoint 17.52.43 # with the "normal" USB IDs, the iPod advertises itself to OS X as an iPod Classic, and that causes the problem you're seeing with OS X 17.53.09 # with the patched build, OS X sees the iPod as a standard USB mass storage device (like a USB flash drive) 17.54.22 # wow nice one 17.54.29 # thanks alot - will try right away 17.56.20 # perky_: for future reference, you can download daily (patched) builds from there: http://caudec.net/rockbox/ 17.56.38 # and here's a permalink to the daily patched build: http://caudec.net/rockbox/latest/rockbox-ipod6g-usbid_0x123A_0x456B.zip 17.56.58 # ahh great - i will come back when i have tried to fix it on the pc - NOW 18.01.53 # hmm now the mac says it is unrecognisable by the computer 18.03.52 # on your iPod, when you go in System → Rockbox Info, what does the Version line read? 18.04.25 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 18.04.56 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@adsl-ull-97-218.50-151.net24.it) 18.05.02 Quit TheLemonMan (Changing host) 18.05.02 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 18.10.04 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.15.18 # i tried both your links now. and both the same result. the version is440ff95M-140517 18.17.10 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 18.18.22 Quit foolsh (Remote host closed the connection) 18.18.54 # copper - yea i guess that is the first linked one 18.19.08 # yup 18.19.25 # anything i should set up in rockbox? 18.19.32 # nope 18.19.33 # or it should just work? 18.19.36 # it should 18.19.39 # weird man 18.20.18 # hand around in case someone has an idea 18.20.28 # i will 18.21.23 # you could try the other one in the mean time 18.52.23 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 18.52.28 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 18.55.12 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19.02.15 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 19.02.20 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226069169.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.06.51 # i did allready 19.06.53 # tried both 19.08.36 # :-/ 19.23.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.37.33 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19.40.51 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-237-52.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) 19.42.02 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.42.20 Join franklin [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com) 19.43.40 Quit franklin (Client Quit) 20.32.44 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 20.42.03 Join foolsh [0] (~foolsh@c-24-11-243-148.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 20.51.15 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 20.55.47 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 20.56.07 Quit TheLemonMan (Remote host closed the connection) 21.06.37 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.18.21 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 21.23.12 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.24.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.24.08 Quit foolsh (Remote host closed the connection) 21.27.28 Join franklin [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com) 21.28.57 Quit franklin (Client Quit) 21.34.37 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 21.35.09 Quit y4n (Quit: 6,000,000 ways to die — choose one.) 21.38.55 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.47.22 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.47.27 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/stripwax) 21.50.52 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 21.55.32 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.58.22 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.02.13 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/stripwax) 22.08.40 Quit stripwax (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 22.24.02 Quit perky_ (Quit: Page closed) 22.24.40 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 22.37.54 Join perky [0] (5ddc5dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.220.93.209) 22.40.46 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-246-44.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 22.42.28 # <[Saint]> copper: that sounds like something else entirely 22.42.57 # <[Saint]> PID/VID shouldn't be able to take down an operating system. 22.44.18 # <[Saint]> One should also say that "it causes problems" on Macs, but, not the one he's seeing. At least, not solely. 22.44.39 # <[Saint]> It should just not work. That's all. 22.45.02 # <[Franklin]> [Saint]: I can't get in contact with Chahi 22.45.22 # <[Franklin]> His email (at least the one on anotherworld.fr) won't work 22.45.28 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.45.59 # <[Saint]> Not my problem. 22.46.31 # <[Franklin]> [Saint]: but since the plugin doesn't use any of his intellectual property, it should legally be OK 22.46.36 # <[Franklin]> right? 22.47.49 # <[Franklin]> not the best thing to do morally, though 22.55.57 Join Scr0mple [0] (~Simon@27.127.199.230) 22.55.57 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.56.28 Quit yuriks (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22.57.54 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@80.215.135.94) 23.01.11 Join yuriks [0] (~quassel@opentyrian/developer/yuriks) 23.09.32 Join foosh [0] (~foolsh@c-24-11-243-148.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 23.10.01 Part foosh 23.11.49 Join foolsh [0] (~foolsh@c-24-11-243-148.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 23.14.03 Quit yuriks (Remote host closed the connection) 23.15.19 Join yuriks [0] (~quassel@opentyrian/developer/yuriks) 23.18.43 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 23.24.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.24.04 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.41.42 # <[Franklin]> hmm... the latest patch sets crash 23.41.44 # <[Franklin]> weird 23.41.52 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.43.38 Join zirra-afk [0] (~slooker@codeforvegas.org) 23.43.48 # Hey guys. 23.44.07 # Can anyone recommend a good mp3 player that is rockboxable, either has good space or is upgradable, decent battery life and is still available? 23.44.21 # i'd prefer s omething with a decent screen too, but I'm pretty sure your answer is going to be Sansa something. :) 23.45.42 # depends on the size and the control, there is the Clip Zip (but USB is not working in RB very well, you need to use the OF), or the Fuze+ but many people don't like the touchpad. Both have microsd and decent battery life 23.46.59 # Boo. Having to reboot to copy stuff I'd rather not do. 23.47.21 # <[Franklin]> zirra-afk: available as in offically? 23.47.25 # <[Franklin]> or as in ebay? 23.47.37 # <[Franklin]> iPod classic is, IMHO, the best rockboxable player out there 23.47.47 # <[Franklin]> sansas are plasticky junk 23.48.23 # [Franklin]: Yeah, I had an ipod 80g that eventually died and they replaced it with a new 120gb. 23.48.36 # Which made me sad. The only 80gigs I'm finding on ebay are like 400-600 dollars though. 23.48.56 # there is the Zen X-Fi3 too, which is mark unusable but works great, except it's capacitive buttons are a bit weird 23.48.58 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 23.49.04 # Weird how? 23.49.17 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 23.49.20 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 23.49.43 # <[Franklin]> zirra-afk: they're capacitive 23.49.49 # <[Franklin]> as in touchpad-like 23.49.56 # I have to say the fuze+ touchpad is a few notches above where it was six months ago, I still wish they were physical buttons though 23.50.07 # Oh. Just weird as in capacitive, not weird as in weird for capacitive. Got it. 23.50.23 # <[Franklin]> zirra-afk: make sense? :) 23.50.31 # <[Franklin]> zirra-afk: do you want "real" butttons? 23.50.40 # I'd prefer them, yes. 23.50.40 # <[Franklin]> as in pushing? 23.50.47 # <[Franklin]> zirra-afk: probably classic 23.50.58 # <[Franklin]> you can get some good deals on ebay 23.51.25 # It doesn't work on 6th gen, right? Only < 6? 23.51.33 # <[Franklin]> zirra-afk: it does! 23.51.36 # wait.. what?! 23.51.36 # <[Franklin]> and quite well 23.51.39 # <[Franklin]> zirra-afk: yep 23.51.41 # OMG. 23.51.48 # <[Franklin]> (forget that it is classified as "unusable") 23.51.57 # <[Franklin]> that means nothing about stability or usability 23.52.00 # <[Franklin]> just the install process 23.52.03 # So last I read, it was unusable because it had a battery life of ~2-4 hours 23.52.11 # (Well, was marked that way because of..) 23.52.19 # <[Franklin]> zirra-afk: oh no 23.52.27 # <[Franklin]> it has *wonderful* battery life now 23.52.30 # weird as in capacitive buttons, maybe we could configure them better but that would require knowledge I don't have at the moment. If you don't mind second hand players, the ZEN (X-Fi) are good players too. There is the Sony NWZ-E380 but the screen is pretty bad and it doesn't have hold button 23.52.34 # <[Franklin]> 20 hrs? 23.52.38 # 20 hours isn't bad at all! 23.52.55 # I'm going to go grab my ipod from my car and verify that it is in fact a 6th gen. 23.52.55 # <[Franklin]> zirra-afk: and there's some patches on Gerrit that look really promising 23.53.17 # Back in 20ish. If it takes me longer, it may be because I'm crying that its not a 6th gen like I thought. :) 23.53.29 # <[Franklin]> zirra-afk: rockbox should run on any full-size click-wheel ipod now 23.53.34 # <[Franklin]> nanos, not so much 23.55.03 Join polemon_ [0] (~polemon@g231143134.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.55.58 # <[Franklin]> zirra-afk: the new patches promise better performance and more feature support (user timers) 23.56.38 Ctcp Ignored 11 channel CTCP requests in 14 minutes and 25 seconds at the last flood 23.56.38 # * [Franklin] hasn't tested them yet 23.56.43 # <[Franklin]> but again, they look promising 23.57.08 # <[Saint]> If its not a 6G...why would you be crying? 23.57.19 # <[Saint]> If its any other non-Nano iPod, its still a win. 23.57.22 # <[Saint]> We support those too... 23.57.24 # <[Franklin]> touch? 23.57.24 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: leaving) 23.58.22 # <[Franklin]> [Saint]: perhaps 'cause they're slow? 23.58.40 # <[Franklin]> and they have comparatively tiny hard drives? 23.58.48 # <[Franklin]> *size is all relative* 23.58.56 # <[Saint]> They're all fast enough to do realtime playback of mainstream codecs, so, speed is irrelevant.