--- Log for 28.11.114 Server: morgan.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 21 hours ago 00.03.17 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 00.06.59 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@82.158.1.206.dyn.user.ono.com) 00.12.15 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 00.26.43 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 00.49.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.59.53 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.00.26 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 01.22.20 Quit RiDD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 01.27.21 Quit mirak (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.29.15 Quit Ivoah_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.38.16 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.40.35 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 02.02.47 Quit derf (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.03.08 Join Ivoah [0] (~Ivoah@216.227.61.21) 02.04.36 Join derf [0] (~derf@static-108-18-126-14.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 02.06.30 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.49.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.54.59 Quit Ivoah (Quit: Leaving...) 02.56.34 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 03.08.09 Join Jinx [0] (Dojo@unaffiliated/jinx) 04.30.15 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.30.15 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.30.17 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.30.17 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.30.18 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.30.19 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.41.18 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 04.49.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.51.47 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 05.27.02 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05.38.41 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.42.59 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.09.30 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 06.35.42 Join yuriks [0] (~quassel@opentyrian/developer/yuriks) 06.49.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.58.33 Join idundidit [0] (~idundidit@66-215-119-163.dhcp.atsc.ca.charter.com) 07.01.50 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 07.01.59 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services) 07.02.14 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 07.04.39 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 07.33.12 Quit varogami (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07.34.40 Join Ivoah [0] (~Ivoah@216.227.61.21) 08.09.52 Quit cmhobbs (Remote host closed the connection) 08.39.59 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@212.44.150.238) 08.49.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.09.55 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.42.13 Join polemon__ [0] (~polemon@f054012179.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.45.16 Quit polemon_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09.49.34 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 10.04.14 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 10.09.59 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@chello084114129144.4.15.vie.surfer.at) 10.11.19 Quit idundidit (Quit: Leaving) 10.11.47 # DMA transfer sizes changed? 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17.42.24 # [Franklin]: probably, but I guess you need to look at the source because I don't know where it (if) is written on the wiki or manual 17.42.34 # froggyman: keypad 0 17.42.42 # <[Franklin]> copper: [!!! 17.42.49 # er 17.42.52 # I meant [Franklin] 17.43.00 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ScreenDump says F5 or keypad 0 17.43.13 # <[Franklin]> ah ok :) 17.43.41 # <[Franklin]> well, I can finally make screenshots for the sim now :) 17.43.46 # <[Franklin]> /s/sim/manual/ 17.50.09 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.52.05 # <[Franklin]> what would be the technical term for how many samples I give rockbox each time it requests more? 17.56.10 # [Franklin]: sample rate ? 17.57.30 # <[Franklin]> no 17.57.32 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.58.36 # <[Franklin]> as in:  17.58.39 # <[Franklin]> javascript:; 17.58.45 # <[Franklin]> hmm? 17.59.06 # <[Franklin]> http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1012/103/apps/plugins/xworld/sys.c line 719 17.59.58 # ah, well buffer size 18.00.06 # <[Franklin]> aha 18.00.34 # maybe buffer level 18.10.32 Quit krabador (Quit: Take the time.) 18.13.22 Quit Bluefoxicy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.14.22 Join Bluefoxicy [0] (~Bluefoxic@c-73-173-208-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 18.40.20 Join varogami [0] (~varogami@dynamic-adsl-78-13-194-230.clienti.tiscali.it) 18.40.55 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.49.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.56.34 Quit varogami (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18.57.19 Join varogami [0] (~varogami@dynamic-adsl-78-13-194-230.clienti.tiscali.it) 19.07.55 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.17.11 Quit varogami (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.17.57 Join varogami [0] (~varogami@dynamic-adsl-78-13-194-230.clienti.tiscali.it) 19.21.33 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 19.28.41 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-75-106-114.dynamic.chello.pl) 19.30.08 # pamaury: I'd like to commit hwstub work from gerrit later today. Any objections? 19.32.10 # wodz: no, it looks good to me, and you are a better judge than me for the rk/atj specific parts 19.32.32 # I need to go, I'll be back in half an hour and we can discuss the issue with hwstub multiple users 19.33.04 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 19.33.20 # [Franklin]: grep -R triangle ./rockbox/apps/plugins/lib 19.35.15 # circles should be easy as calling a fill, with some masking and pi in the math somewhere 19.37.15 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 9439635, 255 builds, 34 clients. 19.37.29 Quit krabador (Quit: Take the time.) 19.40.21 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.41.54 Quit varogami (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.42.43 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 328 seconds. 19.42.45 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 0cd9e4e, 255 builds, 32 clients. 19.42.45 Join varogami [0] (~varogami@dynamic-adsl-78-13-194-230.clienti.tiscali.it) 19.46.59 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 254 seconds. 19.47.53 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.02 # petur: do you have sdl installed properly? 19.52.17 # I was just looking into it 19.52.39 # I see it was complaining there was no result build 19.52.48 # It doesn't find sdl-config 19.53.10 # That's in the libsdl1.2-dev package on debian-likes 19.53.58 # done 19.54.14 # I should probably try a build here too :) 19.56.00 Join darkham [0] (~darkham@host23-19-dynamic.46-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 19.56.42 Quit darkham (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.56.56 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 19.57.47 Quit krabador (Client Quit) 19.58.08 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 20.01.51 # gevaerts: fixed 20.01.56 # Great! 20.03.14 # I like how it almost beats the machines of roolku, even if it has a way lower upload link 20.06.34 Quit Ketturi (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.09.11 Join Ketturi [0] (ketturi@hilla.kapsi.fi) 20.09.52 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.26.47 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@84.47.128.244) 20.42.28 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@m180.dkm.cz) 20.44.11 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p5B0C5FC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.44.22 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 20.48.34 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-75-106-114.dynamic.chello.pl) 20.49.41 # petur: Your homepc is misconfigured (lacking SDL but advertising so) 20.50.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.50.17 # ah, too late 20.52.32 # :) 20.59.36 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 21.06.50 Part chkktri 21.07.15 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 21.07.44 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-176-199-76-43.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de) 21.12.59 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 21.13.31 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 21.28.22 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 21.29.15 # I was reading about hacking micro-sd cards over at http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=3554, and I was wondering if they could be exploited by rockbox to improve performance on slow devices. You have a 100MHZ processor to work with 21.29.29 # Or am I just crazy? 21.32.28 # I suspect you might be :) 21.32.33 # Still, go for it! 21.32.52 # ikeboy: that would be a feat of brillance if someone were to pull it off, good luck, and god's speed 21.34.09 # The question is whether the delay of sending data over to be processed makes the whole thing worthless 21.34.48 # Does rockbox tend to do things that can be easily "cloudified" like that a lot? 21.36.07 # I think it's going to be tricky 21.36.49 # I don't see easy use of this. The biggest problem is data to be processed. I bet this mcus in SD do not have plenty of ram 21.38.00 # 100MHz '51 isn't good target for our needs (arm might be but still this is comparable to our lowend PP devices). 21.39.37 # and finally it is worth to mention we use COP in PP only in a few places. 21.40.33 # I liked the idea in one of the comments, to implement truecrypt on it 21.40.51 # What it needs is an APE decoder 21.40.58 # although if you're not sending a password, then it's stored on device, and is kind of useless 21.41.29 # Then send a password! 21.45.32 # any plans to support truecrypt in rockbox? 21.45.43 # How hard would it be to port that? 21.46.27 # The primary purpose is still audio playing. Does something like truecrypt fit in that? 21.46.28 # ikeboy: you are welcomed to try :-) 21.47.03 # of course! no one can see what you are playing. 21.47.33 # interesting ... this guy claims to have done it http://www.johndball.com/?p=231 (no details of course) 21.47.34 # Apart from that, if you don't need loads of dynamic memory allocation, something like an encrypted loopback block device should be fairly straightforward (apart from implementing the crypto securely, of course!) 21.48.12 # I'd say lots of non trivial work with rather limited use 21.49.31 # I would so love such a feature. 21.53.58 # you know what - its opensource!!! 21.57.24 # although it might be controlled by the NSA anyway, as it was mysteriously shut down. 21.58.25 # http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/ Like anyone believes that they decided to stop truecrypt because xp wasn't supported anymore 21.59.04 Quit charlie (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21.59.21 # Can't rockbox at least have a passcode lock feature, even if it can be disabled easily with a computer? 22.01.45 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 22.02.42 Join charlie__ [0] (~c@unaffiliated/charlie) 22.03.11 # well whats the point of security feature which is unsecure? Not speaking about how impractical it would be to enter passcode with devices not designed to do this feasibly 22.08.30 Quit Ivoah (Quit: Leaving...) 22.08.55 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.09.42 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.09.50 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053154120.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.11.35 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 22.17.50 Nick charlie__ is now known as charlie (~c@unaffiliated/charlie) 22.21.32 # I guess you could not connect over USB unless a PIN was entered, but then you would need to remove the original firmware and recovery SW to block access via alternate ways 22.21.53 # I remember PW protection of rockbox has been asked in the past 22.23.03 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22.27.06 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 22.30.17 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision aa2c55e, 255 builds, 34 clients. 22.34.03 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 227 seconds. 22.36.20 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22.40.24 # reading logical number of packets in wrong byte order looks seriously broken :P 22.41.48 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 22.42.16 # i do not understand that warning 22.42.31 # it was ok to compare unsigned int and int, but not int and unsigned int64?? 22.45.09 # unsigned int64 - lovely oxymoron 22.45.28 # or rather int32 and uint64 22.45.52 # but yes that byte order mistake really surprised me 22.45.56 # blame preglow :) 22.46.13 # a couple of // comments sneaked in 22.46.54 # if it promotes int32 to int64 to do the comparision the warning have sense 22.49.54 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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