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lorenzo92 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 30.0/20140608211457]) 11.35.53 # <[Saint]> I...hmmmm. 11.36.07 # <[Saint]> That doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me. 11.36.37 # <[Saint]> But, I've seen other weird non-linear shenanigans on ARM cores before. 11.37.26 # <[Saint]> flac decoding gets a ~1.5MHz faster running at a _significantly_ lower clock speed on the Classic. 11.37.53 # <[Saint]> a few other unboosted test_codec results aren't what I'd necessarily expect either. 11.38.26 # <[Saint]> is there test_coded results for the classic on the performancecomparison page? 11.38.39 # <[Saint]> aha. there is. 11.39.14 # <[Saint]> oooooh - its from prof_wolfff, and there's boosted/unboosted results. awesome. 11.45.51 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 11.46.26 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 11.46.41 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.51.56 # [Saint]: not *that* weird 11.52.25 # Could be things like getting closer to RAM speed (i.e. RAM getting faster relative to CPU clock) 11.54.30 # <[Saint]> whatever the reason, it seems quite clear that is a Good Thing(tm) 11.54.50 Join dingo [0] (b2debc5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.222.188.95) 11.54.56 # <[Saint]> I've managed to fuck up the battery benches though. 11.59.02 # gevaerts: Could you point me to the code which does mem size detection on ipod video? 11.59.22 # Hmmmm 12.00.12 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@wced-245-219-32-147.feld.cvut.cz) 12.02.35 # ummmm, how to enable things in config.h? 12.04.55 # dingo: what you mean? config.h defines are usually driven by target specific config 12.05.40 # I've applied the USB Audio patch and there should be a entry in the Debug menu to enable it but there isn't one 12.06.11 # I've read in the patch comments that it needs to be enabled in config.h 12.06.21 # let me see 12.06.50 # wodz: the actual detection is done in firmware/target/arm/pp/crt0-pp.S (around line 150). That's then read by firmware/target/arm/pp/system-pp502x.c and put in a variable (probed_ramsize). firmware/core_alloc.c then uses probed_ramsize to move audiobufend around a bit 12.07.14 # Note that this handling only works thanks to the RAM being mapped twice for the 32MB model 12.09.06 # dingo: are you sure you try the patch on supported platform? 12.10.22 # dingo: The patch enables appropriate entry only on supported platforms (which means ARC usb core for now) 12.14.15 # Oh I see, guy who made the comment was running the patch on the Clip+ so i though that Clip+ is supported 12.15.13 # gevaerts: oh, I thought it touches memory controller bits as well 12.15.32 # dingo: no, clip+ has designware usb core 12.15.39 # No, it entirely depends on the RAM mirroring 12.16.39 # too bad, I hoped I could steal some code for atj dram configuration 12.16.55 # We pretend we're always running on a 64MB model, and we just change the end of the available audio buffer a bit 12.17.44 # So on a 32MB device, the plugin buffer sits in a different mirror of the RAM than the rest 12.18.28 # gevaerts: thanks for explanation 12.19.00 # We basically found a way to avoid hard thinking :) 12.21.42 # wodz: I see, so I need to implement usb_drv_recv_blocking somewhere in designware core in order to work? 12.22.39 # dingo: You need to implement isochronous transfers but you really should speak with pamaury about this. 12.29.07 # Do I remember correctly that rb needs 2 timers? 1 for kernel tick and second for other uses (like in plugins or so)? 12.30.12 # wodz: There is no need since I don't understand a thing about code haha 12.30.42 # wodz: btw how do I enable logs entry in Debug menu? 12.31.05 # dingo: You need to compile a build with logf enabled 12.31.06 Ctcp Ignored 6 channel CTCP requests in 10 minutes and 27 seconds at the last flood 12.31.06 # * [Saint] thinks he might have Rockbox running on Android 5.0.1 12.31.22 # <[Saint]> ah - not quite. 12.31.30 # <[Saint]> it just doesn't fall over as quickly. 12.32.08 # wodz: sorry but where do I enable logf? 12.32.16 # during configure 12.32.20 # * [Saint] wonders how to run gdb an on android app through adb 12.32.22 # its in advanced options 12.32.33 # <[Saint]> bloody hell I hope that's possible 12.32.52 # <[Saint]> get some usable debug output from this thing and step it out as it fails. 12.33.07 # <[Saint]> err - sorry, stepping over someone's conversation. 12.33.14 # <[Saint]> nevermind my ramblings... ;p 12.33.44 # wodz: ah found it, thanks 12.34.15 # <[Saint]> ooooh - there's ndk-gdb 12.34.27 # <[Saint]> but I need to do some slight fuckery to get it working. 12.35.21 # <[Saint]> I found and fixed a derp that stops us looking in a single specific place for android zipalign, too. 12.35.46 # <[Saint]> so I guess I should put that on gerrit, that means compatibility with aging, and much newer, ndks. 12.36.19 # <[Saint]> (well - platform build-tools, rather) 12.43.20 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 12.45.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.52.04 # I wonder how will perform atj2135 considering it can run dram @ 166MHz 12.58.33 # <[Saint]> what does it usually run at? 12.59.07 # [Saint]: ? 12.59.31 # [Saint]: you mean the dram or atj? 12.59.48 # <[Saint]> Oh, my mistake, I thought that 166MHz was some increase from N. 13.14.27 Quit Rondom (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.15.20 Quit Elfish (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.15.27 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2001:1608:12:1:13:3:3:7) 13.16.51 Quit endee_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.18.00 Quit KotH (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.18.01 Join Rondom [0] (~rondom@nonmodosedetiam.net) 13.18.40 # wodz: is the designware core driver at least stable for bulk/contrl/interrupt transfers ? 13.19.05 Join KotH [0] (~attila@2001:1620:907::1) 13.19.12 Join endee_ [0] (sid15467@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session) 13.19.13 Quit endee_ (Changing host) 13.19.13 Join endee_ [0] (sid15467@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kopscxbaqtxpbqlm) 13.19.18 # pamaury: it is not 13.19.28 Join Xyem [0] (xyem@li193-64.members.linode.com) 13.20.30 Quit Xyem_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.21.02 Quit APLU (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.24.27 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 13.24.33 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 13.27.29 Join APLU [0] (~mulx@eva.aplu.fr) 13.29.42 # pamaury: whats the change in difftab patch? 13.30.07 # I didn't change anything, just rebased the change 13.30.28 # ah, ok 13.31.14 Quit Rondom (*.net *.split) 13.31.15 Quit ender| (*.net *.split) 13.34.31 # I'm working on it right now, I'd like to fix the new "sexy register display" to commit it, so only the difftab will be left 13.34.45 # I will not commit it before the new register work because I'll have to rewrite it anyway 13.38.18 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 13.40.04 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 13.40.10 # damn, I don't understand how custom views give size hints in qt... 13.42.06 # <[Saint]> What a comforting message... 13.42.36 # <[Saint]> Extracting android-ndk-r10d 13.42.36 # <[Saint]> Everything is Ok 13.42.36 # <[Saint]> saint@buildbox:~/Development/android$ 13.42.51 # <[Saint]> _everything_, ever, is Ok. 13.42.54 # <[Saint]> Good to know. 14.37.03 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 14.42.21 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.42.56 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.45.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.50.19 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 15.18.03 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EEBCEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.20.48 Join ender [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 15.23.36 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 15.23.42 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 15.23.46 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 15.23.51 Quit dingo (Quit: Page closed) 15.24.56 Join akaWolf1 [0] (~akaWolf@188.134.9.161) 15.25.05 Join godzirra_ [0] (~slooker@codeforvegas.org) 15.25.29 Quit petur (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 15.26.00 Join pamaury_ [0] (~quassel@sphinx.lix.polytechnique.fr) 15.27.22 Join alucryd_ [0] (~quassel@archlinux/trusteduser/alucryd) 15.28.07 Quit alucryd_ (Client Quit) 15.28.24 Join alucryd_ [0] (~quassel@archlinux/trusteduser/alucryd) 15.30.12 Quit amayer (*.net *.split) 15.30.13 Quit pamaury (*.net *.split) 15.30.13 Quit ender` (*.net *.split) 15.30.13 Quit alucryd (*.net *.split) 15.30.14 Quit akaWolf (*.net *.split) 15.30.15 Quit godzirra (*.net *.split) 15.30.30 Quit alucryd_ (Remote host closed the connection) 15.30.45 Join alucryd [0] (~quassel@archlinux/trusteduser/alucryd) 15.58.07 Quit dfkt (Remote host closed the connection) 16.12.23 Quit Strife1989 (Quit: Leaving) 16.37.00 Quit mortalis (Remote host closed the connection) 16.45.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.52.36 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17.18.48 Quit APLU (Quit: !sucide) 17.33.23 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.45.31 Join APLU [0] (~mulx@eva.aplu.fr) 17.47.47 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.52.28 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 17.56.15 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 17.57.12 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 18.04.17 Quit gevaerts (Read error: No route to host) 18.04.25 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@d1F05C5B1.access.telenet.be) 18.05.08 Quit evilnick (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.07.05 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 18.25.18 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 18.33.54 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 18.35.26 Quit pamaury_ (Remote host closed the connection) 18.36.23 Quit maruk1 (Quit: Leaving.) 18.41.17 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 18.42.10 Quit cmhobbs (Remote host closed the connection) 18.43.57 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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21.31.34 # have you resolve problem with keyboard on clipv2? 21.33.22 # Mihail: I haven't had time to look at it, but I should in a few days once I am away from work for the holidays 21.33.58 # on russian forum I have two success report about clip+ and one with problem - some problem with keyboard and stability 21.34.32 # I try localize it with special build 21.34.55 # i don't understand the origin of the key problem 21.35.07 # we did run the clip players at 40MHz PCLK once without issue 21.35.29 # i had no problems with the clip+ but did not test 2.6v CVDD2 21.36.00 # maybe safest would be to commit frequency scaling with minimal other changes and then enable them slowly 21.36.28 # in all "russian" case it was your build 21.36.40 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 21.37.16 # also i sometimes see the CPU getting stuck boosted after USB 21.37.28 # not sure how the stack works, but maybe usb_enable(0) isn't always called? 21.40.56 Join Mihail_ [0] (4d438ef1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.67.142.241) 21.42.45 Quit Mihail (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22.02.22 Quit y4n (Quit: coob ov vood?) 22.08.54 # saratoga: we can commit this changes in four step 22.09.26 # 1. mixer - no side affect, just improve audio quality 22.09.39 # 2. clock-target.h 22.10.00 # 3. frequency scaling 22.10.10 # 4. voltages 22.26.13 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@rockbox/developer/thomasjfox) 22.26.24 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 22.42.32 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@unaffiliated/franklin) 22.45.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.49.28 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/stripwax) 22.56.47 Quit cronix (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.56.58 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.57.16 Join cronix [0] (~cronix@HSI-KBW-078-042-141-224.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 22.58.40 Quit bertrik (Quit: Lost terminal) 23.09.09 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 23.09.14 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.19.06 Quit amayer_ (Quit: Leaving) 23.35.44 # <[Franklin]> foolsh, Ivoah: I've gotten z80e to build for hardware 23.35.54 # <[Franklin]> about 1000 lines of warnings 23.35.56 # [Franklin]: Yay! 23.36.12 # <[Franklin]> but it builds 23.36.18 # <[Franklin]> I doubt that it will work, though 23.36.34 # [Franklin]: make /sure/ to add an option for re mapping the keys 23.36.53 # * [Franklin] isn't even sure how the plugin's gonna work :) 23.43.42 # [Franklin]: How's it gonna work then? 23.44.02 # <[Franklin]> I don't know :O 23.44.13 # <[Franklin]> pelt me with ideas 23.45.41 # Hmmm 23.45.44 # An emulator? 23.46.10 # <[Franklin]> yes 23.46.30 # * gevaerts assumes that means ROM dumps 23.47.03 # <[Franklin]> just because it emulates TI hardware doesn't mean it's gotta run TI code 23.47.15 # True 23.47.19 # <[Franklin]> there's KnightOS which is a complete replacement of TI-OS 23.47.25 # I'm not saying that's a problem as such :) 23.47.54 # Just that depending on exact licensing you can or cannot include it 23.48.18 # * [Franklin] plans on bundling KnightOS with it 23.50.54 # Looks like a decent option, license-wise 23.51.21 # <[Franklin]> why? 23.51.39 # BSD or BSD-like, isn't it? 23.52.04 # <[Franklin]> MIT IIRC 23.52.09 # From what I found after a brief search 23.52.11 # Yes, could be 23.52.24 # Their formatting makes it a bit tricky :) 23.52.25 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23.52.39 # * gevaerts assumes they want to be able to show it on-device 23.53.02 # Good enough, anyway 23.53.04 # <[Franklin]> oh... yes :) 23.53.44 # ROMs are a problem with *lots* of emulators