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Previously I used to have rockbox freeze on usb disconnect about 2 out of 5 times.. I haven't seen a single freeze with this build.. I will continue testing.. 16.46.18 Part NewGuy 16.53.53 Join Debian4Ever [0] (~Debian4Ev@ip56521b60.speed.planet.nl) 16.57.25 Join maruk1 [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 16.57.32 Quit eeeeeta (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16.57.33 # Hello, I can not register to the Rockbox forum 16.58.08 # Debian4Ever: what's the issue? 16.58.30 Join eeeeeta [0] (~eeeeeta@gateway/tor-sasl/eeeeeta) 16.58.31 # " What is 5 + 8? (enter kangaroo in the field): " if I fill in 13 or thirteen I get an error message 16.59.26 # Ah, yes. Well, it tells you what to do between the parentheses :) 17.03.46 # <[Saint]> You've just done a fine job proving you're a bot, Debian4Ever, well done. ;) 17.04.01 # I'm not a bot 17.04.36 # <[Saint]> I'm aware. But you bounced off the bot trap pretty nicely. 17.05.20 # To be honest, your registration method on the forum sucks 17.06.08 # <[Saint]> I guess you'd prefer our forums to be full of spam then? 17.06.38 # No, but this way sucks 17.07.02 # <[Saint]> Do you have a valid alternative for proof of life? 17.07.17 # <[Saint]> If not, forgive me for choosing to ignore that statement. 17.07.38 # Yes, you can visit me, I have some cold beers ;) 17.07.46 # <[Saint]> Heh. 17.08.02 # What proof do you want? 17.09.08 # <[Saint]> Well, the test is _supposed_ to be somewhat a proof that the entity filling the form out is sentient. 17.09.27 # Then your test sucks ..... 17.09.28 # <[Saint]> bots bounce off it in the same fashion you did. 17.10.09 # Never mind, I'll ask how to register on the mailing list, thanks for your "kind" support 17.10.19 # <[Saint]> What?!? 17.10.25 # The instructions are *right there* 17.10.26 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.10.27 # <[Saint]> The answer was given to you. 17.10.37 # You even quoted them here 17.10.45 # <[Saint]> its quite literally telling you what to do. 17.11.21 # Yes and even if i fill in kangaroo in the field I get an error message 17.12.46 # Works for me... 17.13.34 # What error do you get? 17.15.38 Quit Debian4Ever (Quit: Leaving) 17.18.21 # <[Saint]> is there any way we can purge zero-posters from the forum member list? 17.18.46 # <[Saint]> perhaps with a message along the lines of "we're really sorry if you're human, but, we had to do this"? 17.19.05 # We can, but I object to that 17.19.10 # <[Saint]> the amount of registered zero-posters is insane. 17.19.27 # <[Saint]> And I suspect it has something to do with how poorly the forums perform. 17.19.33 # Unless we purge never-logged-in zero posters 17.19.39 # No, most of them are spammers 17.19.40 # <[Saint]> trying to do any moderation is tedious. 17.20.10 # What are you trying to do? 17.20.33 # <[Saint]> bans take _forever_. 17.20.47 # Also, searching for people with zero posts is not as easy as you'd think :) 17.20.49 # <[Saint]> even not banning and just clearing posts takes forever. 17.21.05 # Huh? That's always quick enough for me 17.21.19 # <[Saint]> Odd. It takes upwards of 30s most times here. 17.21.22 # <[Saint]> often longer. 17.21.37 # <[Saint]> banning is a lot worse than simply clearing posts, though. 17.21.49 # The banning code in smf is stupid 17.21.53 # * gevaerts has seen it 17.22.00 # <[Saint]> hmm. 17.22.14 # The thing with zero-posters is that we have subforums where posts aren't counted 17.22.29 # <[Saint]> ah, right, yeah. 17.22.31 # So deleting all zero-posters would delete some active accounts 17.22.53 # <[Saint]> yeah, that's obviously not a thing that's acceptable. 17.22.57 # By the way, these days I often don't ban, but if they post lots of spam I delete the account :) 17.23.47 # <[Saint]> Looking at the addresses, the obvious solution is to just ban the whole of Europe and China. 17.23.49 # <[Saint]> :p 17.23.57 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 17.24.11 # Of course we could just start counting all posts... 17.24.33 # But then that only takes effect for new posts 17.25.11 # <[Saint]> if that's an option, and affects no other functionality, and then enables us to (after some grace period) ban zero-posters, I'm all for it. 17.25.30 # We wouldn't *ban* them 17.25.33 # Just delete them 17.25.38 # Well, 17.25.58 # If it's my decision, we would only delete them if they haven't logged in for a while 17.26.03 # <[Saint]> ban might be better for the interim, to see if we catch anyone we legitimately inconvenience. 17.26.14 # <[Saint]> and after some grace period *then* delete them. 17.26.22 # No. SMF *really* can't handle large ban lists 17.26.28 # <[Saint]> argh. 17.26.58 # In fact, I'd like to get rid of all of our current bans... 17.27.18 # <[Saint]> Go for it, I honestly don't think many accounts get used more than once anyway. 17.27.22 # no dont get rid of me 17.27.48 # [Saint]: the problem isn't *wanting* to do it, the problem is that it's horribly tedious work 17.27.56 # * [Saint] nods 17.28.43 # The ban list has 273 pages, and while you can delete a page at a time it will likely make the forums unusable for at least five minutes per page 17.29.03 # So in practice, that's not really an option 17.29.24 # <[Saint]> could one do it behind the forums back by getting the ban list and editing the db? 17.29.37 # One could 17.29.55 # If one were very careful and one understood the database properly 17.31.35 Quit petur (Quit: Page closed) 17.36.37 # Hmmm 17.37.02 # A trick might work 17.42.15 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.53.12 # * [Saint] tries 17.53.20 # <[Saint]> Pick a card, any card... 17.53.31 # Well 17.53.39 # More like "Pick a curl..." 17.58.06 Join Debian4Ever [0] (~Debian4Ev@ip56521b60.speed.planet.nl) 18.02.40 Quit pamaury_ (Remote host closed the connection) 18.04.47 # i dont have confidence in making changes to the DB at the moment - it is very fragile for some odd reason now 18.05.16 # i really just need to create a new, fresh server and move everything over at this point 18.05.19 # ...start over 18.11.35 # <[Saint]> Sing out for manpower or manhours if you need them. 18.12.07 # <[Saint]> (not to be confused with manwhores, I gave that up) 18.15.16 # well, as it is my personal server, i am reluctant to have others doing that work... 18.15.25 # but it does need to be done... 18.16.54 # obviously i need to attend another devcon so i can dedicate some time then to work on it... 18.19.22 # * gevaerts makes inroads 18.19.43 # i have a space I can hold one at my offices...but that is in Arizona... 18.20.10 # I'm doing exactly what the button does, but with curl I can delete more at a time, and the waiting overhead is once per request and not once per ban... 18.20.57 # that sounds nice 18.26.19 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.28.32 # OK, done 18.28.43 # I've left the last one or two pages 18.32.13 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 18.32.43 # is there still the delay when banning? 18.32.55 # Shouldn't be 18.33.21 # The delay is because smf goes over all bans to see which users they apply to. If you only have a few bans that's not too bad 18.33.36 # * scorche|sh nods 18.34.01 # thanks again for proving way more resourceful than i =) 18.34.19 # I could remove them 900 at a time. 1000 was too much :) 18.34.39 Quit maruk1 (Quit: Leaving.) 18.34.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.35.35 # * scorche|sh sees that Debian4Ever managed to prove himself not-a-bot after all 18.39.00 # <[Saint]> hilariously, he'd already done so after claiming otherwise. 18.51.08 Part LinusN 18.56.17 Quit AlexP (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.56.50 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 18.57.35 Quit Debian4Ever (Quit: Leaving) 19.06.04 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EEB11B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.24.50 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-177-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.30.12 # https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIV8Od-eWC0 19.49.43 # * [Saint] was expecting to see it full of unicorn tears and Neil Young's personal blood and sweat. 19.49.53 # <[Saint]> I must say, I'm highly disappointed. 19.51.00 # <[Saint]> I've seen a teardown before. I love the way the form factor is totally and completely unnecessary. And/or how much space there is in there for additional lipo 19.51.33 # gotta put your own unicorn tears in 19.51.38 # <[Saint]> lay those caps flat, and you could make it a form factor that isn't shit, and fit in a fucktonne more battery. 19.51.56 # gotta save that up for the second generation 19.52.52 # <[Saint]> 'ootputs' 19.53.22 # <[Saint]> Aha, Beauchamp, Canada checks out. 20.09.24 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@cl-1037.haa-01.nl.sixxs.net) 20.09.39 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 20.09.39 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.34.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.07.33 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.12.04 # gevaerts: do you have a way of reaching zagor, bjorn or torne ? I tried to send them an email for my gerrit problem but none answered... 21.14.10 # I see them in #rockbox-community more often than here, Zagor and Björn are names of the same person. 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