--- Log for 27.02.115 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 9 days ago 00.06.59 Quit ParkerR (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.07.17 Join ParkerR [0] (~Parker@66-191-226-206.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) 00.09.21 Quit shmibs (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.11.05 Quit RiDD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 00.11.23 Join shmibs [0] (~shmibs@198.52.217.65) 00.35.38 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 00.47.13 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 00.51.13 # <[Franklin]> wow... rockbox is a pretty nice desktop player 00.51.56 # <[Franklin]> just that the sound skips when I move the mouse, etc... 00.52.04 # <[Franklin]> :P 01.11.50 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.20.15 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: leaving) 01.26.19 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.29.40 Quit yuriks (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.30.49 Join yuriks [0] (~quassel@opentyrian/developer/yuriks) 01.37.03 Join the-kyle1 [0] (~kyle@kyle.tk) 01.37.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.41.03 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.41.18 Quit the-kyle (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.16.00 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.17.22 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 02.27.43 Quit yuriks (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.28.14 Join yuriks [0] (~quassel@opentyrian/developer/yuriks) 02.31.51 Quit IgoRR1 (Quit: Leaving.) 02.48.22 Join wubking [0] (~quassel@S0106c8fb2685e2ea.va.shawcable.net) 03.01.43 Join [Saint] [0] (77e024ef@rockbox/staff/saint) 03.03.41 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 03.20.23 Join IgoRR1 [0] (~IgorC@186.18.214.118) 03.24.43 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.27.26 Join froggyman [0] (~frogs@unaffiliated/froggyman) 03.34.59 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-178-203-30-225.hsi10.unitymediagroup.de) 03.37.16 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 03.37.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.21.51 Quit ruskie (Excess Flood) 04.27.14 Join ruskie [0] (ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) 04.30.41 Join Snardbafulador [0] (~Snardbafu@177.237.48.144) 04.49.30 Join zorak8 [0] (~zorak8@186.226.224.3) 04.49.57 # hi, im trying to install rockbox in an ipod video 04.50.04 # and im getting this error 04.50.06 # [ERR] Firmware partition doesn't contain Apple copyright, aborting. 04.50.30 Quit [Saint] (Quit: [Read error: Connection reset by Queer]) 04.54.42 Nick Snardbafulador is now known as chokoit (~Snardbafu@177.237.48.144) 04.56.29 # zorak8, did you "format" the device? It needs stock Apple firmware inbtact and working 04.56.35 # *intact 04.56.56 # yes, i formated it 04.57.11 # I am going to fucking hunt you down zorak8 04.57.15 # and tie you to my bed 04.57.17 # Yeah you have to leave the iPod as is and just flash the bootloader 04.57.19 # and ram my cock up your ass 04.57.26 # going to dialate your ass 04.57.30 # zorak8, restore in iTunes 04.57.33 # and force you to suck my shit-covered dick clean 04.57.39 # then I am going to suck on your dialated anus 04.57.45 # until turds come sliding out into my mouth 04.58.01 # ok, for 5th time today im restoiring 04.58.17 # going to fucking rape you zorak8 04.58.20 # just you fucking wait 04.58.24 # watch your back faggot 04.58.31 # going to pound that little brownie hole with my cock 04.58.34 # and suck your colon clean 04.59.45 Quit [Franklin] (Remote host closed the connection) 05.08.06 Quit IgoRR1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.17.06 # im getting the same error but i restore to fabric settings 05.34.50 Quit zorak8 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05.35.30 Quit chokoit (Quit: Saliendo) 05.37.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.50.54 Join zorak8 [0] (~zorak8@186.226.224.3) 05.56.14 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.56.26 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.11.14 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 06.29.02 Join irr [0] (~irr@ip68-110-184-227.cl.ri.cox.net) 06.32.14 # I recently installed Rockbox on my Sansa Clip+ . I have a 32gb microSD card for it. What is the USB car mode? I have a car stereo which has a USB port, if i connect it how does rockbox treat the card? will it show it as 1 whole filesystem or not at all like the original sansa firmware. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.03.30 Join rela [0] (~x@p200300668419B0008D6BB1D9F1CF93A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.03.36 Quit rela (Changing host) 19.03.36 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 19.07.57 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 19.19.46 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 19.24.18 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19.37.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.50.10 Join [Saint] [0] (77e024ef@rockbox/staff/saint) 19.51.34 # [Saint]: I'm not sure we should lock threads merely because the OP thinks they should be 19.51.46 # <[Franklin]> ^ 19.54.19 # <[Saint]> Did you read the thread in question? 19.54.49 # <[Saint]> Its not exactly possible to add any value added context to it. OP fucked up, described how he fucked up, and...that's that. 19.55.02 # Maybe 19.55.08 # We have lots of threads like that 19.55.12 # <[Saint]> That's why I locked it as opposed to deleting it. 19.55.35 # <[Saint]> It provides valuable insight, but its not possible to add any additional context to it. 19.56.46 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 19.56.46 Quit krabador (Client Quit) 19.57.16 # The thing is, I'm not entirely opposed to locking (although I prefer consistency, which would require a lot more locking I think), but "per OP request"? 19.57.36 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 19.58.07 # <[Saint]> You're not familiar with "OP"? 19.58.27 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@53508AA1.cm-6-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 19.58.27 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 19.58.27 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.58.39 # <[Saint]> "Original Post(er)" 19.58.51 # Yes, that's *exactly* my point! 19.59.39 # <[Saint]> Stop fucking talking in riddles man. 19.59.42 # <[Saint]> Out with it. 19.59.55 # 19:51:35 [Saint]: I'm not sure we should lock threads merely because the OP thinks they should be 20.00.10 # I don't really see how I can state that in a clearer way 20.00.27 # <[Saint]> Well, I don't think I can state my position any clearer. 20.00.35 # <[Saint]> Unluck it if you want, but, I won't. 20.00.45 # <[Saint]> *unlock 20.01.05 # <[Saint]> If OP wants his own thread locked, I'm happy to oblige. 20.02.00 # <[Saint]> If it were possible for anyone else to add any value added context to the thread, I wouldn;t have. But its a single person, who figured out their own issue, and described it precisely. 20.02.04 # <[Saint]> I consider it done. 20.02.19 # Right, I guess that's where we disagree. It's a forum thread on our forums, it belongs to the forums in general, not to the OP 20.02.56 # So sure, we (the mods) get to decide what gets locked, but why do random thread posters? 20.03.25 # <[Saint]> What else do you honestly expect to get posted there that's of any value to anyone? 20.03.33 # <[Saint]> "Oh, hurr durr, I fucked this up too once"? 20.03.40 # <[Saint]> jesus.. 20.03.48 # Exactly my thoughts! 20.04.14 # I didn't say threads should never be locked 20.04.21 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.04.27 # <[Saint]> Well, as I said, if you feel that strongly about it - unlock it. But I'm not going to. 20.04.45 # <[Saint]> Pick your battles man. This is frankly not towrth the time or effort. 20.05.49 # So will you lock any thread where the OP asks you to? 20.07.20 # * gevaerts thinks locking is there to stop things getting out of hand, *if* there are actually signs of them getting out of hand 20.07.39 # <[Saint]> If its a single poster contributing that solves their own issue and its not possible to add any other additional valuable content to it - then, sure, why not. I stated the criteria I considered when locking this thread clearly. 20.08.39 # <[Saint]> For me, its far too early in the morning to be arguing about completely meaningless bullshit. 20.10.38 # * gevaerts doesn't think it's meaningless, but he does think there's no clear answer, so he'll move the discussion to a more appropriate place 20.12.50 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-177-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 20.29.28 Quit Zambezi (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.32.30 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.32.34 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.32.44 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com) 20.50.46 Join amancer1 [0] (~max@p578E71D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.51.12 # Hey Guys! 20.52.05 # Anyone in? 20.52.31 # <[Franklin]> hello 20.53.15 # I just found my old Sansa Clip +, refreshed the soldering on the headphones - everything fine running rockbox. 20.53.33 # <[Franklin]> good to hear :) 20.54.04 # BUT the left/right buttons aren’t working. So I was thinking: Is there a way to add a GUI-Button to get to the parent directory 20.54.16 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.54.18 # Is the Firmware costumizeable in that way? 20.54.47 # <[Franklin]> it's 100% customizable, in fact 20.54.56 # Well 20.55.02 # <[Franklin]> but not easily 20.55.07 # You have to change the source and rebuild to do that 20.55.26 # What is the Firmware written in? 20.55.34 # <[Franklin]> mostly C 20.55.38 # Shit. 20.55.44 # <[Franklin]> some platform-specific assembly 20.56.13 # <[Franklin]> no binary blobs, I believe :) 20.56.14 # So I got to learn C to do that. That’s a nice project. 20.56.38 # You probably don't need to know much C to change the keymap 20.56.41 # <[Franklin]> yeah 20.57.00 # thats true 20.57.13 # Can I get the builds somewhere? 20.57.21 # <[Franklin]> the builds won't help you much 20.57.26 # <[Franklin]> you need the... Source! 20.57.54 # Right, meant the source 20.58.11 # <[Franklin]> yeah 20.58.29 # <[Franklin]> it's hosted in/on git at git://git.rockbox.org/rockbox IIRC 21.02.50 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide might be useful 21.03.57 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 21.04.18 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 21.05.03 # Gmm 21.05.37 # Is there a dirtier way to do it? Does anyone know if one of the themes has a minimalistic spin or something like that? 21.05.52 # <[Saint]> Its worth noting that this will be next to impossible. 21.06.06 # <[Saint]> If you want to retain funtionality, while editing the keymaps, I mean. 21.06.17 # <[Saint]> The keymaps are already overcrowded. 21.06.18 # I believe so 21.06.27 # Damn it. 21.06.32 # <[Saint]> Every edit you make will nuke something else down the line and make a conflict. 21.06.48 # Yeah, I thought so. C is very strict. 21.07.05 # <[Saint]> This has nothing to do with the language in question. 21.07.33 # <[Saint]> Its just the fact that we're already doubling up on keys for some functions, and you're wanting to reconfigure two of them. 21.07.39 # <[Saint]> Even one would be nightmarish. 21.08.02 # Oh, I see 21.08.46 # Wait. 21.09.20 # Just to be clear: I’m not trying to remap the keys. I am trying to add 1 function to the GUI 21.09.27 # <[Saint]> FWIW, this is almost certainly a case where you've inserted the wheel ribbon incorrectly. 21.09.30 # which would be: Go up one directory 21.09.32 # <[Saint]> Its _very_ picky. 21.10.05 # the wheel ribbon? 21.10.07 # <[Saint]> Yes, I'm aware - but that was proposed as a suggestion - and I'm saying that its an unreasonable one. 21.10.09 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.10.27 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com) 21.10.36 # <[Saint]> Oh, shit - Clip+, I misread. Nevermind. 21.11.22 # I never tried themes: Do they sometimes have added GUI objects? 21.11.51 # Would save me from buying a new one. 21.11.56 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-193-180.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 21.11.57 # <[Saint]> No. Not on non-touch devices, no. Its not possible with the current theme engine. 21.12.06 # Ok 21.12.08 # <[Saint]> You would need to make some massive changes to allow that. 21.13.19 # Maybe I’m just handling it wrong: is there a way to navigate to a higher level without using the left/right buttons? 21.13.59 # <[Saint]> Not that I'm aware of. "<<"/left is usually our "back one" button. 21.15.12 # <[Saint]> You're also, naturally, going to lose seek - and a host of other functions scattered throughout the device. 21.15.48 # I realized it’s the << and down button that dont work. right still works. 21.15.49 # <[Saint]> There are very few targets where we have spare keys available. Offhand, I can't think of any, perhaps there actually are none... 21.15.55 # so scrolling forward is still ok... 21.16.08 # <[Saint]> Oh. Hmmm...that's gonna suck. 21.16.28 # I think I’ll have to live with it. It’s just for jogging, since I dont want to take my phone for that. 21.16.41 # <[Saint]> You'll have to make a fixed.cfg config to reset volume to a safe level. 21.16.44 # <[Saint]> Else you won't be able to change it. 21.16.54 # no, the volume buttons still work 21.17.25 # <[Saint]> Oh - derp. that's right, the Sansas have dedicated volume buttons. 21.17.27 # <[Saint]> Whoops. 21.17.33 # You can change the volume from the quickscreen, if that still works with the buttons you have left 21.17.54 # So swapping volume with left/right might be an option 21.18.07 Join Jinx [0] (~Jinx@unaffiliated/jinx) 21.18.15 # yeah it has 8 buttons alltogether, but I’m crippeled in navigating the files. how ironic. 21.18.26 # thats true 21.18.39 # <[Saint]> Yeah, I forgot about their dedicated volume buttons, using up/down long press for volume on them was my own hacked up keymap. 21.18.52 # that would be a fix 21.19.02 # <[Saint]> My mangled old man-hands found the volume buttons too fiddly. 21.19.05 # your keymap + swapping L/R and volume 21.19.36 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@bnc.from.dotbnc.com) 21.19.50 # I suspect it's going to be awkward to use though 21.19.53 # Yeah, they’re tiny. I’m always amazed to see how small the buttons themselves are when you open it up 21.19.59 # it will, yeah. 21.20.29 # LOL 21.20.43 # A short tap on the on/off button brings you up 1 folder. I’m done here. 21.20.57 # <[Saint]> It does? 21.20.59 # Nice thinking on whoever implemented that 21.20.59 # <[Saint]> Huh. 21.21.00 # yeah! 21.21.18 # that’s so cool 21.21.22 # <[Saint]> Well - awesome. 21.21.58 # Thanks for the chat anyways! I’ll come through here sometime when I start my running and actually use it for some time 21.22.08 # Well, if you still want to do the modification, I'd consider leaving the actual keymap alone and change firmware/target/arm/as3525/sansa-clipplus/button-clip.c instead 21.22.27 # <[Saint]> indeed. 21.22.29 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 21.22.45 # <[Saint]> once you start on the keymap, it quickly descends into madness. 21.22.51 # I’ll have a look at it 21.22.58 # <[Saint]> Every change makes a conflict somewhere else. 21.36.56 Quit bertrik (Quit: Lost terminal) 21.37.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.48.19 Quit Ivoah (Quit: Leaving...) 22.00.24 Part amancer1 22.03.18 Quit wubking (Remote host closed the connection) 22.07.51 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.08.13 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-193-180.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 22.14.19 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@53508AA1.cm-6-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 22.14.20 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 22.14.20 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 22.18.59 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22.37.55 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 22.42.08 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-178-203-30-225.hsi10.unitymediagroup.de) 22.42.21 Join amancer1 [0] (~max@p578E71D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.43.16 # I’m back 22.44.18 # <[Franklin]> welcome back 22.45.16 # So, I updated to the newest rockbox version. 22.45.28 # Now I can’t mount my Sansa Clip anymore to put files on it. 22.45.34 # <[Franklin]> a dev build or release? 22.45.51 # I used the utility 22.45.55 # it was a stable release 22.46.19 # <[Franklin]> the "stable" release is ~2 years old now 22.46.30 # I see the drive in my disk utility manager, but can’t activate it 22.46.30 # Hrmmm 22.46.46 # Normally the advice is to use the OF for USB in this sort of case, but... 22.47.06 # OF? 22.47.14 # <[Franklin]> Original Firmware 22.47.14 # Original firmware 22.47.23 # Mh, I’ll try that. 22.47.31 # You hold the left button while booting to get to that :) 22.47.41 Quit [Franklin] (Quit: Lost terminal) 22.48.19 # What I'd suggest is bootloader USB. Switch the device off, hold select, and while still holding select plug in 22.48.20 # lol 22.48.39 # left button is broken, in case you missed that earlier :D 22.49.22 # is that the mkamsboot? 22.49.27 # Hence "normally" :) 22.49.58 # The bootloader is what's installed by mkamsboot, yes 22.54.55 # <[Saint]> no - mkamsboot != bootloader USB 22.55.01 # <[Saint]> If that's what you're asking, 22.55.05 # <[Saint]> (it appeared to be) 22.56.09 # <[Saint]> Bootloader USB is accessed as described by gevaerts above, its an instance of USb in the bootloader itself, which is normally there to allow recovery of a damaged Rockbox installation without having to boot the OF. 22.56.34 # <[Saint]> But in this instance it will (or, should) allow you to upload media to the device, since you can't boot the OF. 22.56.36 # *and* without having to use the left or right button :) 22.57.01 # Ok, I’m confused 22.57.01 # <[Saint]> You could also eject the sdcard and use an external card reader. 22.57.18 # I’m currently using it without the SD Card 22.57.22 # 8gigs onboard 22.57.27 # <[Saint]> There's no reason to be confused. Turn the device off, and boot while plugged and holding select. 22.57.39 # <[Saint]> You'll get a bootloader USB instance. 22.57.50 # Oh I didn’t see that. Trying that out. thanks 22.58.32 # Ok. Bootloader USB mode. I’ve seen this earlier 22.58.49 # So how do I install the correct bootloader now? 22.58.49 # <[Saint]> If your host can't mount the bootloader USB instance /either/, your only other alternative will be ejecting the sdcard and using an external card reader. 22.58.57 # ok 22.59.00 # <[Saint]> Or, using an operating system that doesn't suck. 22.59.12 # The bootloader should be fine, no need to replace it 22.59.29 # <[Saint]> Wait, what? You don't need to install a bootloader - perhaps I misspoke? 22.59.45 # You merely have to use it if USB in the main binary misbehaves 22.59.57 # (as a fallback( 23.00.15 # <[Saint]> Hmmmm, though, if you "updated" to the current release, which is several years old... 23.00.25 # The devie is now in Bootloader USB mode, what now. 23.00.46 # <[Saint]> The host should present a mount point. 23.00.56 # <[Saint]> It is connected via USB, yes? 23.01.06 # <[Saint]> That's kinda important. ;) 23.01.19 # erm 23.01.31 # so it’s working now, this is what I did: 23.02.12 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.02.41 # It didn’t show up while saying „Bootloader USB mode“. So I unplugged & replugged it, which made it start normally and show up as a drive. 23.03.22 # * [Saint] shrugs 23.03.25 # <[Saint]> ...whatever. 23.04.41 # I’m scratching my head too... 23.05.00 # but hey, I guess that fixed itself. 23.05.27 # <[Saint]> Windows is particularly anal about USB. 23.06.14 # <[Saint]> There's far too many variables that the host hardware and Windows operating system can present, vs. *nix's "Just Works" nature and relative permissiveness. 23.06.27 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 23.06.28 # Well this is machine is running OSX (which is quite anal too), but here some music on it. I’ll try using it my Ubuntu machine later 23.06.45 # but I feel ya 23.07.56 # <[Saint]> Hmmm, for this purpose, OSX should qualify as a *nix system, ...vaguely, albeit a bastardized one. 23.08.11 # <[Saint]> That's rather odd. It should have worked first pop. 23.09.06 # * gevaerts doesn't think unixyness matters a lot when looking at USB compatibility issues 23.09.07 # … I really can’t pinpoint what that was all about. 23.09.18 # haha 23.10.27 Part amancer1 23.10.54 # <[Saint]> gevaerts: I think it does, I mean, it shouldn't, obviously - as we should be "Doing It Right(TM)", but, *nix systems are (generally speaking) a lot more tolerant of the myriad of devices that are "Doing It Wrong(TM)". 23.12.03 Part LinusN 23.13.00 # Maybe 23.13.17 # Still, we don't actually know what the issue is 23.13.24 # So who knows? 23.20.26 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 23.20.31 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.23.51 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.24.35 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224237191.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.37.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.44.00 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.47.17 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-207-177.mcn.bellsouth.net)