--- Log for 23.03.115 Server: sinisalo.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 4 hours ago 00.03.46 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-120-39.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 00.03.46 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 00.03.46 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.05.33 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.13.45 Quit ender` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.15.40 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.17.56 Quit Markmaster (Quit: Markmaster) 00.19.54 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 00.31.28 Quit stripwax (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 00.43.39 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 01.10.40 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-213-148.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.19.43 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.20.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.20.45 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01.33.06 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01.33.23 Quit gevaerts (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.53.38 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 01.56.06 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 02.01.42 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.17.44 Quit RiDD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 02.42.26 Quit derf (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.44.03 Join derf [0] (~derf@static-108-18-126-14.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 02.46.27 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.47.10 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.04.05 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@213.37.219.26.dyn.user.ono.com) 03.17.45 # Hi my friends, very much sorry, i have been forced to be offline for last months (job issues, no in jail ;), at this moment i am not updated on the rockbox developing, i have just arrived at home and in the next days i would be a bit busy, but i am commited to Classic development, really i can't remember where i leave it, IIRC i got some CPU HW info, i will try to find it and commit in the next days. 03.20.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.20.11 # Seven, wodz, saint, every people, do you think it it time to commit the last patches ??? 03.51.52 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.53.12 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 04.52.16 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-47-77.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 04.52.16 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 04.52.16 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 04.54.00 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 04.59.40 # prof_wolfff: great, wondered if you were still working on things 05.01.24 # by the way have you seen g#1148 05.01.30 # 3Gerrit review #1148 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1148 : 3Classic/6G: Fix hold switch detection by Kazuyoshi Horiguchi 05.01.53 # saratoga, i have been offline for the last months but as i sait, i am commited :) 05.04.57 # saratoga, about 1148, holdswitch is a ****, i hope to resolve it using PMU interrupts 05.05.09 # yeah that patch looked very questionable to me 05.05.22 # but i don't understand the hardware either 05.06.49 # really the GPIO read was a walkarround, OF uses PMU interrupts 05.11.37 # saratoga, what about the CEATA problem, it is resolved ATM? 05.11.51 # not sure what problem that was 05.15.04 # it seems it was a CEATA property, i am wrong? 05.19.10 # saratoga, what do think about commitin last patches, i have been using it last months with no problems. They key is to switch the DMA driver... 05.20.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.20.09 # prof_wolfff: can you check with one of the other classic developers? 05.20.13 # i don't know much about the port 05.20.33 # but its marked as unusable at the moment so I don't think its a huge problem to commit major changes 05.20.45 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05.21.11 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 05.21.15 # ok, but.. have you tried them?, if so... any problems on them? 05.21.26 # i don't have a classic 05.21.40 # ohhhhh, sorry 05.22.04 # no problem 05.22.33 # ok back to work... 05.23.18 # i have a sansa sport, do yo know i there is anybody trying to port it??? 05.27.38 # yes, there was some talk about it the past few weeks 05.27.54 # trying to get the JTAG working, but apparently it didn't respond 05.28.18 # at this point no one is even sure if it has enough memory to have a real port, the datasheet implies that it does not (although datasheets often lie) 05.28.57 # the player's firmware does seem to have a lot of trouble with longer AAC files though, which is a bad sign, since parsing AAC is very memory intensive 05.30.45 # of course we thought the same thing about the original clip, and it turned out that sandisk had ordered a customized version of the chip with additional memory 05.32.32 # :( and :), it is a challenge!!! 05.36.13 # yeah but not a very interesting target in my opinion since its mips and apparently very limited hardware 05.36.33 # really only good thing is that its very cheap 05.38.17 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 05.38.26 # i am not audiophile but it sounds nice for me, no the crystalline ipod sound but a warm sound 05.39.04 # i think most of these integrated sigma delta systems have pretty good output these days 05.39.14 # they're all just using the same designs 05.41.22 # yeah!, people says Classics sound is a bit tired but it is discutible, it was easy in the old phono ages :) 05.42.28 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 05.48.59 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.49.11 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.22.38 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.24.57 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 06.38.18 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.19.53 Quit ParkerR (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.20.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.33.24 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-235-12.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) 07.33.29 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 07.33.29 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.34.40 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.54.01 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 08.03.42 Quit Jinx (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08.17.52 Join Jinx [0] (Dojo@unaffiliated/jinx) 08.18.58 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@212.44.150.238) 08.31.40 Join ParkerR [0] (~Parker@unaffiliated/parkerr) 08.31.42 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.38.02 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 08.46.32 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-86-49-15-121.net.upcbroadband.cz) 08.55.17 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 08.56.32 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09.02.48 # <[Saint]> prof_wolfff: yeah - there is something wrong with CEATA in git HEAD, apparently. 09.03.18 # <[Saint]> I don't have any functional CEATA ipod6g left laying around to play with it though, perhaps you do. 09.03.57 # <[Saint]> I have two non-functional ones, and not quite enough bits to make a single functional one from either. ;) 09.04.54 # <[Saint]> From memory, I believe the filesystem rewrite busted it up. 09.09.09 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.11.24 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 09.13.49 # I don't have classic either. From the top of my head currently there are a few known problems with 6g (at least for some users): 1) CEATA 2) hold detection 3) usb. Other than this there at two major TODOs: 1) bootloader 2) dualboot 09.14.49 # Next is IAP support 09.15.55 # pamaury: ping 09.16.02 # <[Saint]> Apparently there is an actual (semi-(?)) functional bootloader with dualboot that [7] and $some_guy made 09.16.19 # <[Saint]> but I haven't seen one scratch of the development of it. 09.16.22 # [Saint]: sure, but nothing official 09.16.25 # wodz: pong 09.16.30 # <[Saint]> I've only heard [7] refer to it. 09.16.44 # <[Saint]> not emCORE, I mean. 09.17.27 # pamaury: I saw you pushed new version of soc_desc to gerrit. How far are we from pushing 'commit' button? 09.18.25 # wodz: for me the qeditor is finished, I added the bits needed to edit variants, I suggest you try and see if that works for you. I also modified a little bit register/field editor layout. 09.19.08 # I began headergen_v2, it's not finished but in good shape, it's still on my computer only at the moment 09.20.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.23.40 # pamaury: ok, I'll try qeditor soon 09.24.02 # saratoga: why MIPS is not interesting? 09.25.24 # wodz: by the way, I saw that the Fiio X1 went out, maybe that's the interesting player to port rockbox too: not too expensive, MIPS and modern components 09.26.25 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-6-37.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 09.26.25 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 09.26.25 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.27.41 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09.40.15 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.41.39 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09.44.48 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 09.44.54 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.45.12 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.52.25 # pamaury: the price is reasonable indeed 09.57.07 # pamaury: Are you sure it is MIPS? binwalk finds only ARM opcodes 09.59.34 # wodz: some photos of the internal shows ingenic jz4760b which is supposed to have dual XBurst 09.59.54 # maybe the photos were not X1 in fact... 10.00.04 # I'll have a closer look 10.00.08 # yes, jz4760 is MIPSish 10.03.31 # <[Saint]> the X1 has a silly little LED to play with too! :) 10.03.38 # <[Saint]> Its blue, IIRC. 10.04.07 # IHFSsplit doesn' 10.04.16 # t crunch updrade file for x1 10.04.44 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.16.07 Quit bzed (Remote host closed the connection) 10.32.14 # there is quite a lot documentation for 4760/4760b 10.43.22 Quit webmeister (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10.44.19 Quit Elfish (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 10.49.15 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.54.19 Join webmeister [0] (webmeister@unaffiliated/webmeister) 10.55.01 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2001:1608:12:1:13:3:3:7) 10.55.55 # wodz: a little on google suggest fiio released or leaked a "packtools" that can pack/unpack the firmware, someone on rockbox disassembled it and posted something on the forums but didn't much information except something about a checksum. I wonder where this tool can be found 10.57.09 # also found this: ftp://94.23.144.183/mirror/ftp.ingenic.cn/ 11.02.08 # haha found it, it can unpack x1 update 11.11.50 # pamaury: can you share unpacked version? 11.12.41 # wodz: just the firmware or the entire archive ? I'll try and reverse engineer the packer/unpacker completely to see what is different from ihfssplit 11.13.14 # firmware, images fonts etc. are not interesting for me 11.13.38 # bah. Yes only firmware is interesting for me 11.14.37 # wodz: see your email 11.15.47 # I didn't look at it yet 11.15.48 # got it 11.18.42 # looks like scrambled 11.20.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.21.07 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@50.23.152.10-static.reverse.softlayer.com) 11.21.19 # that's unfortunate 11.25.33 Quit Markmaster (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.28.32 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@li189-38.members.linode.com) 11.40.06 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 12.27.25 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 12.28.43 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 12.31.06 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 12.32.15 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 12.33.43 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC13568.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.47.36 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@bl22-42-234.dsl.telepac.pt) 12.50.13 Join Ivoah [0] (~Ivoah@p-74-209-25-57.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net) 12.55.18 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 12.55.28 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 12.57.22 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.19.00 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13.20.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.50.48 Quit Markmaster (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.02.16 Join Markmaster_ [0] (~Markmaste@159.8.10.67-static.reverse.softlayer.com) 14.05.10 Quit djukon (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 14.05.35 Quit Markmaster_ (Client Quit) 14.05.47 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.06.56 Join djukon [0] (transitor@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kmcovledolynykrb) 14.07.36 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14.12.23 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.12.43 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.14.58 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 14.35.13 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.40.59 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.42.03 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 14.58.52 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 15.17.40 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 15.20.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.32.47 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.53.27 Quit APLU (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 15.55.18 Join APLU [0] (~mulx@eva.aplu.fr) 16.01.41 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE868F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.12.22 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-124-36.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 16.12.22 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 16.12.22 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 16.14.22 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.24.27 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 16.25.13 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.36.43 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-20-115.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 16.36.43 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 16.36.43 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 16.38.47 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 16.40.26 Join maruk1 [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 16.42.43 Quit mortalis (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.51.00 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 16.57.24 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 17.02.44 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@host-184-250.wifi.fsid.cvut.cz) 17.10.43 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.20.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.20.33 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@host-184-250.wifi.fsid.cvut.cz) 17.29.06 # wodz (logs): regarding x1 firmware, I think it's scrambled with a simple xor against a known key, I'm running some analysis to check that 17.34.38 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 17.50.56 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 18.02.43 # Haha, I think I successfully descrambled the firmware :) 18.04.18 # wodz: i don't want to have to redo 5 years of arm assembly 18.04.24 # for codecs 18.05.43 # saratoga: why would you need to do that ? 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