--- Log for 25.03.115 Server: sinisalo.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 4 hours ago 00.10.38 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.10.55 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 00.15.13 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 00.18.27 Quit Markmaster (Quit: Markmaster) 00.31.03 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.31.18 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 00.39.15 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 00.47.22 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.51.37 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 01.20.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.25.26 Join flyback [0] (~flyback@c-73-214-90-243.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 01.25.40 # oh shit 01.25.50 # now I can't rmeember what the model was called it's been so long 01.55.00 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.56.12 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.35.31 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than 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JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.53.43 Quit Markmaster (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09.54.07 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.57.01 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@159.122.82.37-static.reverse.softlayer.com) 09.58.20 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.59.57 # pamaury: strings in x1 binary shows that codecs are included so I think this is simply flat binary 09.59.58 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.03.33 Quit Markmaster (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.07.58 # wodz: ok, 10.10.05 # pamaury: BTW your packtools segfaults when called without parameters 10.10.51 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.11.32 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10.12.26 # wodz: really ? that's pretty bad, let me see that 10.14.06 # wodz: indeed, pretty obvious bug 10.15.08 # wodz: I added a comment where there is a mistake, I'll push a new version when I have some time, otherwise feel free to do so 10.15.52 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.16.44 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.17.24 # I don't think I'll have time today 10.18.27 Join petur [0] (~petur@78-21-48-202.access.telenet.be) 10.18.29 Quit petur (Changing host) 10.18.29 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.21.13 # pamaury: I think I found x1 lcd init routine yesterday 10.21.19 # oh that's cool 10.21.27 # pamaury: seems like 2 versions of controller are used 10.22.11 # by the way, I noted a few things: the datasheet described the entire usb boot protocol :) that's very nice. Second, some datasheet states the jz4760b has a few difference register wise with the jz4760 but I couldn't find a detailled list 10.22.13 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@159.122.82.37-static.reverse.softlayer.com) 10.23.25 # pamaury: linux/u-boot patch may help there 10.23.36 # yeah, but I didn't have a look at this yet 10.23.46 # they are massive :-) 10.25.52 # if they have a good register description with correct copyright, we may be able to extract a register description out of them 10.26.14 # If there is easy way to trigger this usb mode port should be fairly easy. Usb core is documented so hwstub port should be easy. 10.26.38 # pamaury: AFAIK everything is GPLv2 only so not quite compatible with rb 10.28.21 # yeah everything is documented, I must say this might be easiest port ever ;) 10.28.39 # Famous last words? :) 10.29.16 # not everything is documented. XMU is NOT documented other then famous awk preprocessor and some headers. 10.29.17 # well the hard part is to buy it, especially for the higher models like x3 and x5 which cost an arm 10.29.42 # yeah, but we don't need XMU do we ? 10.30.10 # Lets start with x1. The found should be able to cope with ~90euro, no? 10.30.47 # basically we can omit XMU but it might be handy in optimization stage. 10.30.59 Quit Markmaster (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 10.31.16 # You don't want a player using mips to cost an arm! 10.31.20 # x1 declared battery runtime is less then 12h. Thats pretty bad. 10.31.29 # yeah it's <=100EUR, I will probably buy one. Yeah XMU would be useful in the future 10.31.46 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 10.31.58 # but without any toolchain support, it's going to be a pain, best would be to add support to say llvm, maybe some people already had a look at it 10.32.03 # gevaerts: haha :) 10.32.33 # or rework this awk script and preprocess sources 10.34.22 # this script is funny, it looks a awful like awk scripts I've written: write-once, run-alot, read-never 10.34.33 # I wonder what will be the comparision of rb and OF decoding efficiency as OF seems to use fpu (which I wouldn't expect to be blazing fast) 10.35.27 # saratoga said our mips code is not very optimised, also it's quite possible the OF doesn't try to optimise battery usage 10.36.19 # I mean 24h playback on an audiophile player is clearly unprofessionnal ;) 10.37.05 # Our code is not optimized BUT is integer only. Mips cores usually are pretty good at integer math due to lots of registers to play with. 10.37.08 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-59-95.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 10.37.08 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 10.37.08 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.37.17 # I noticed something funny: the jz4760b has an internal codec which can already do 24-bit/48KHz but they put an extra codec just to do 24-bit/192KHz :-o 10.37.47 # (and probably better audio characteristics too I guess) 10.38.09 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.41.32 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@159.122.82.37-static.reverse.softlayer.com) 10.43.38 Join ii_ [0] (~ii@intmail.alpeslasers.ch) 10.48.12 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 10.49.18 # wodz: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TjsU6FM6leoJ:wiki.dingoonity.org/index.php%3Ftitle%3DDevelopment:MXU+&cd=7&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr 10.49.33 # apparently the wiki removed all the information but the google cache has the whole page 10.50.13 # is ingenic particularly aggressive about XMU and chasing people trying to document it ? 10.50.57 # pamaury: I think udefined opcodes in context store/restore are related to XMU 10.52.10 Quit Markmaster (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.52.24 # so maybe it would make sense to do a bit of work on this to have a complete enough disassembler 10.52.41 # are many such instructions in regular code ? 10.52.41 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@159.122.82.37-static.reverse.softlayer.com) 10.53.01 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 10.53.58 # Only a few places so far but I didn't reach codecs. 10.56.01 Quit Markmaster (Client Quit) 11.01.52 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@wced-178-217-32-147.feld.cvut.cz) 11.02.05 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@159.122.82.37-static.reverse.softlayer.com) 11.06.31 Quit Markmaster (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11.11.44 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE9ABD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.16.20 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.21.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.23.18 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 11.28.41 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@159.122.82.37-static.reverse.softlayer.com) 11.33.35 # pamaury: If I read awk script correctly, all xmu opcodes should start with 0b011100 (0x70000000). But undefined codes in binary are also starting with 0x44000000. There are 15 consecutive 0x70000000 opcodes while there are 17 XMU registers :/ 11.34.28 Quit ii_ (Remote host closed the connection) 11.37.47 # why is that an issue ? 11.38.17 # out of the 17, the first is always 0 and the last is the control register apparently, so only 15 are really usable 11.38.29 # hmm, true 11.38.39 # I didn't think about it 11.39.16 # by the way, some source on the internet says there might be 3 levels of instructions between jz4710 and jz4770 11.39.33 Quit Markmaster (Quit: Markmaster) 11.39.41 # there is a spike of XMU opcodes starting at vma 801fc894 11.39.53 # the "level" bying written to the control register: bit 0 for level 0, and so on. Someone on the internet said jz4770 has 3 levels (so write 7 to control register) 11.40.20 # it's might interesting to see what is the level supported by jz4760 if we can find it 11.43.42 # 0x44000000 opcodes seems to be fpu related 11.45.49 # is the fpu documented ? 11.47.45 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 11.47.51 Join kugel__ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 11.48.15 # regular mips fpu is documented 11.48.37 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@159.122.82.37-static.reverse.softlayer.com) 11.53.11 Quit Markmaster (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.01.29 Join Markmaster_ [0] (~Markmaste@li303-111.members.linode.com) 12.02.51 # pamaury: https://android.googlesource.com/toolchain/binutils/+/006d27ae5460e9b39d11ca8403b52984753a294e 12.07.49 Join ii_ [0] (~ii@intmail.alpeslasers.ch) 12.14.46 Quit Ivoah_ (Quit: Leaving...) 12.15.08 Quit AlexP (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.25.09 # pamaury: objdump from this source successfully recognize problematic instructions :-) 12.25.32 # well, almost 12.28.01 # 0x44 instructions are still mostly unrecognized 12.32.43 Join Ivoah [0] (~Ivoah@p-74-209-25-57.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net) 12.39.36 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12.40.20 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 12.41.30 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12.44.11 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.58.05 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 13.03.25 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.05.26 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-91-173.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 13.05.26 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 13.05.26 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.07.57 Quit the-kyle (Remote host closed the connection) 13.12.28 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 13.13.09 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.21.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.21.27 Join AlexP_ [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 13.24.14 # wodz: including xmu instructions ? 13.24.21 # yes 13.24.44 Part 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