--- Log for 11.04.115 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 10 hours ago 00.02.54 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 00.05.35 Quit MMlosh (Quit: Bye...) 00.08.10 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 00.13.16 Quit bertrik (Quit: Lost terminal) 00.13.49 # [Franklin]: did I see you utter the words "wii" and "rockbox" the other day? :) 00.14.36 # <[Franklin]> hehe 00.14.43 # <[Franklin]> there's an SDL port for it 00.15.26 # that would be the easy way to do it :D 00.28.05 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 00.29.29 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 00.36.36 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 00.45.22 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0/20150406174117]) 01.01.39 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01.02.23 Join byteframe [0] (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) 01.07.07 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 01.13.28 Quit krabador (Quit: kernel update) 01.21.44 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 01.26.44 Join NoIdentity [0] (~noidentit@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/zalix) 01.32.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.59.24 Join djapo [0] (~archie@unaffiliated/djapo) 02.00.19 Join ploco [0] (dce9b7f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.233.183.249) 02.00.58 # [Saint]: https://yssays.wordpress.com/2011/12/27/android-ndk-stack-tool/ 02.02.54 # ndk-stack can transfer those non-sense in adb log to locations where in crashed in jni/c code 02.04.15 Quit ploco (Client Quit) 02.27.43 # <[Franklin]> gevaerts: can pluginlib stuff be exported to lua? 02.30.11 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.52.42 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 03.19.38 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 03.32.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.36.22 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 03.47.57 Quit krabador (Quit: kernel update) 04.09.33 Quit [Franklin] (Quit: Lost terminal) 05.22.56 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.23.06 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.32.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.44.52 Quit djukon (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.45.26 Join djukon [0] (transitor@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-hzmtpbzxhgnhlamf) 06.11.12 Quit the-kyle (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.13.49 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 06.14.15 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@kyle.tk) 06.18.14 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 06.30.09 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 06.35.03 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06.46.24 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 06.51.00 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07.00.11 Join pablo_pi_ [0] (~pablo@186.151.149.124) 07.01.02 Quit pablo_pi (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.02.41 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 07.07.26 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07.18.55 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 07.23.52 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07.32.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.35.13 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 07.39.37 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07.51.26 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 07.56.15 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08.07.41 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 08.12.29 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 08.23.56 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 08.28.39 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 08.29.35 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 08.29.35 Quit pixelma (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.30.22 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.30.23 Join amiconn [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.40.10 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 08.42.34 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.45.04 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08.46.47 Quit foolsh (Remote host closed the connection) 08.49.30 Join foolsh [0] (~quassel@c-50-129-6-16.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 08.49.54 Quit mikegi (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.30.55 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.32.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.43.09 Join fotisto [0] (~fotisto@50-193-82-254-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 09.43.26 # how do I have rockbox play an audiobook from where it left off? 09.46.07 # fotisto: and play other stuff in between? 09.47.45 # yea 09.48.02 # save bookmarks 09.48.09 # how do I do that? 09.48.18 # how can I do it automatically? 09.48.22 # in the bookmarking menu you can turn on bookmark on stop 09.48.50 # and set "load last bookmark" to yes or ask 09.49.24 # can you have multiple bookmarks with different audiobooks? 09.49.32 # yah 09.49.42 # nice 09.49.57 # I think I will go back to using rockbox then 09.50.07 # cause my default firmware allows this 09.50.09 # :D 09.50.18 # ah, what device? 09.50.36 # sansa clip plus by sandisk 09.51.06 # ah ok. I am a big fan of sandisk layers 09.51.16 # got the fuze 09.51.21 # yea I really like them 09.51.52 # I just want it for music and also on a strict budget so I got the sansa clip plus 09.52.11 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 09.52.14 # don't need video or to see music album art 09.52.23 # I've had one in the past. liked it a lot 09.52.31 # with the fuze can you read ebooks? 09.52.43 # I am bad about sqashing daps >_> 09.52.56 # and never done that, sounds annoying 09.54.27 # I'd rather read on my pebble watch 09.54.41 # what is pebble watch? 09.55.02 # a cool bluetooth watch that shows notifications from my phon 09.55.06 # kinda offtopicm 09.55.17 # wanna talk in #rockbox-community? 10.04.07 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-177-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 10.25.19 Join MMlosh [0] (~MMlosh@2001:470:6f:23:24f:63ff:fe01:4900) 10.29.08 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.36.43 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 11.15.06 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 11.29.47 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 11.32.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.01.06 Quit AlexP (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.06.25 Join napcae [0] (~napcae@milkmc.ml) 12.06.59 # hey guys, is this still in development? specifically ipod classic? 12.07.21 # port is classified as "unusable" on the website 12.25.00 # we have very few developers left 12.25.34 # well how hard is to begin? I don't have any experience with hardware dev but I could try 12.25.43 # I think there is a series of patches for the ipod classic on our tracker but I don't know the situation of the ipod in details 12.26.30 # that's very unfortunate..I was really enjoying rockbox on my ipod nano 1gen 12.27.12 # without any prior knowledge this is quite hard, you need to know a lot about embedded system development, and the ipod are among the worst paltforms because they are not or poorly documented. What you could do, I guess, it to test those patches and provide some feedback 12.27.35 # sounds reasonable 12.27.50 # divide and conquer right 12.27.55 # thanks for the quick answers 12.28.11 # g#379 is the patch series head 12.28.17 # 3Gerrit review #379 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/379 : 3iPod Classic: experimental CPU freq/volt scaling by Cástor Muñoz 12.36.30 Join dys [0] (~user@ip-109-44-229-119.web.vodafone.de) 12.49.42 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 13.16.49 Quit benedikt93 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 13.21.54 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13.30.14 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.32.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.40.04 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 13.42.15 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 13.48.43 Join pablo_pi [0] (~pablo@186.151.149.124) 13.51.59 Quit pablo_pi_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 14.06.17 # napcae: rockbox works fine on iPodClassic, but you have to install things manually: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Main_Page 14.12.53 # I saw that thanks K1773R 14.13.09 # I'm on mac though 14.13.17 # so no emocore install 14.24.17 # napcae: just create a VM and forward the USB device 14.33.22 # are you using rb on an ipodclassic? 14.36.55 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.20.45 Quit MMlosh (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 15.26.16 Join MMlosh [0] (~MMlosh@2001:470:6f:23:24f:63ff:fe01:4900) 15.28.26 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 15.32.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.44.13 Quit derf (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 15.46.11 Join derf [0] (~derf@static-108-18-126-14.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 16.10.49 Quit djapo (Quit: leaving) 16.17.43 Join fotisto2 [0] (~fotisto@50-193-82-254-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 16.20.11 Quit fotisto (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16.34.42 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@77-173-17-40.ip.telfort.nl) 16.40.05 Quit AlexP (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.53.32 Quit benedikt93 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16.55.20 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 16.56.46 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 17.15.05 Join pablo_pi_ [0] (~pablo@186.151.149.124) 17.18.15 Quit pablo_pi (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.27.44 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.28.38 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 17.32.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.36.29 Join RiD [0] (kamisakea@bl22-58-140.dsl.telepac.pt) 17.41.30 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 17.43.57 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 17.58.00 Quit benedikt93 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 17.59.49 Nick NoIdentity is now known as noIdentity (~noidentit@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/zalix) 18.18.09 Join Eduardooo [0] (~who_that@82-170-6-95.ip.telfort.nl) 18.18.52 # Good day all :) 18.22.53 # I have got a Sensa Clip+ with Rockbox V3.13, but when I connected it to a Windows machine (tried 2 different PC's) it doesnt mount. In the past it did. Any tips on how to make it mountable again? 18.28.04 Join franklin [0] (~franklin@unaffiliated/franklin) 18.28.04 Nick franklin is now known as [Franklin] (~franklin@unaffiliated/franklin) 18.30.01 Quit [Franklin] (Client Quit) 18.30.17 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@unaffiliated/franklin) 18.43.17 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 18.43.29 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 18.52.07 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.52.59 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 18.54.46 Join Polarus [0] (~Miranda@90-156-89-79.internetia.net.pl) 18.55.42 # Hi, anyone knows how to build mkamsboot using cygwin? Everything configured, rockboxdev.sh done 18.57.03 Quit Eduardooo () 19.00.48 # 'make' in 'rockbox/rbutil/mkamsboot' simply does not work. Thank you in advance for help. 19.02.10 Join Polarus_web [0] (5a9c594f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.156.89.79) 19.06.00 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.06.23 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 19.06.34 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.06.53 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@77-173-17-40.ip.telfort.nl) 19.09.32 Join ChristW [0] (~ChristW@80.100.128.3) 19.18.54 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 19.19.35 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 19.21.24 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 19.21.46 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 19.21.51 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 19.24.17 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19.25.11 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@x5ce0ee22.dyn.telefonica.de) 19.27.34 Quit benedikt93 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.31.37 Join williamtdr [0] (uid27909@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xzyxzledfdiufoxd) 19.32.00 Quit ChristW (Quit: ChristW) 19.32.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.33.24 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 19.33.35 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 19.39.56 Quit krabador (Quit: kernel update) 19.42.52 Quit Polarus_web (Quit: Page closed) 19.43.45 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 19.48.08 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.48.26 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 19.49.02 # define "does not work" 19.54.05 # $ make 19.54.05 # Compiler creates cygwin binaries 19.54.05 # CC dualboot.c 19.54.06 DBUG Enqueued KICK Polarus 19.54.06 # ../libtools.make:123: recipe for target '/cygdrive/d/rockbox/rockbox/rbutil/mkamsboot/buildcygwin/dualboot.o' failed 19.54.07 # make: *** [/cygdrive/d/rockbox/rockbox/rbutil/mkamsboot/buildcygwin/dualboot.o] Error 1 19.54.17 # using latest version from git repo 19.58.39 # sorry error pasting... text of these errors are here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18361391/mkamsboot_error.txt 20.03.17 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.06.00 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@46.189.28.232) 20.09.33 Quit edhelas (Quit: Quitte) 20.12.43 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.13.11 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 20.22.11 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 20.23.34 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.25.08 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 20.29.43 # [Franklin]: there shouldn't be any problem with the lua plugin linking to any pluginlib stuff you like 20.30.18 # <[Franklin]> how? 20.30.53 # <[Franklin]> how is stuff exported from C to lua? 20.31.40 # I have no idea :) 20.31.57 # <[Franklin]> looks like something in rocklib.c 20.34.23 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 20.34.23 # * [Franklin] stays away and waits for someone else to do it 20.34.50 # [Franklin]: by the way, any progress on the sgt puzzles port? :) 20.35.17 # <[Franklin]> ah... maybe I /could/ work on it 20.35.30 # <[Franklin]> just not now though, I'm working on another project ATM 20.54.18 # Polarus: use make V=1 to make the output more verbose 20.56.51 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.57.40 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 21.06.56 # bluebrother: file updated according to your instructions 21.07.58 # bluebrother^: file updated according to your instructions 21.14.03 # ah. 21.14.17 # you're using a cygwin shell, right? 21.14.43 # yes 21.14.52 # the Makefile tries to use Windows cmd style commands, but that obviously won't work from a cygwin shell 21.15.09 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-86-49-15-121.net.upcbroadband.cz) 21.15.46 # so what can I do to build it successfully? I have no problem with configuring and making the bootloader 21.16.15 # the problem is that it uses libtools.make, which also supports calling from cmd. 21.16.23 # (for MinGW) 21.16.47 # but that doesn't work from cygwin, since it detects the OS to be Windows_NT, and then uses cmd style 21.17.05 # you can try using either MinGW for building it, or try calling it from a cmd shell 21.17.14 # though I never tried the latter 21.18.11 # or you could try overwriting rm and mkdir 21.18.44 # probably easiest could be make OS=Cygwin V=1 21.19.40 # to avoid libtools.make from detecting the host to be Windows 21.20.35 # thank you, now unrecognized option '-no-cygwin' 21.24.00 # gnah. 21.24.12 # ok, your cygwin compiler is too new :) 21.24.36 # -mno-cygwin has been removed from gcc ... 21.24.54 # edit libtools.make and remove the line that adds it 21.25.01 # or use MinGW. 21.26.38 # line removed, now cmpiled. Time to check if it works, thank you :) 21.26.51 # you're welcome 21.27.15 # though using cygwin is something I consider deprecated these times. Don't think any developer uses it actively anymore. 21.27.41 # so you recommend to use mingw instead? 21.28.08 # for compiling Rockbox I recommend using a virtual machine. And for the tools ... if you want them on Windows use MinGW. 21.28.29 # since most of them are used in Rockbox Utility, and that is built using MinGW on Windows. 21.28.47 # so unless something got broken MinGW should work for them. 21.29.41 # great. Unfortunately rockbox utility especially latest version seams to be inaccessible for screen readers that's why I need latest tools 21.30.00 # on Windows? It should work with screen readers. 21.30.26 # though I haven't checked in a while. Basically I haven't done much stuff on Rockbox Utility in a year or so 21.30.28 # don't know why but last version (development) doesn't work 21.30.53 # development as in you compiled it yourself? 21.32.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.32.51 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@46.189.28.179) 21.44.19 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 22.11.08 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@46.189.28.220) 22.14.17 Quit williamtdr (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 22.20.43 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.29.22 # nope, this unstable one from may 2014 22.50.05 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 23.00.09 Quit lebellium (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.00.46 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-177-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 23.10.01 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 23.11.49 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@46.189.28.232) 23.30.40 Join shmibs [0] (~shmibs@107.170.254.248) 23.31.52 # a little suggestion to developers: why not to update binaries of e.g. mkamsboot utility? I have bought Clip+ which already has unsupported 01.02.17 firmware installed. New util from sources works well, now tested and everything is ok 23.32.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.37.50 Quit shmibs (Remote host closed the connection) 23.37.54 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 23.38.49 Join shmibs [0] (~shmibs@107.170.254.248) 23.38.56 # <[Saint]> If one is using Rockbox, the firmware version of the OF is largely irrelevant. 23.39.38 # well it's not on sandisk devices due to the way rockbox's bootloader piggybacks on stock firmware updates 23.39.55 # <[Saint]> Ummm...it is. 23.40.12 # <[Saint]> As long as you use a supported firmware, which is linked, it's irrelevant. 23.40.12 # maybe I'm misremembering then, sorry 23.41.38 # so original firmware has nothing in connection with Rockbox? e.g. only bootloader is required to use Rockbox? (I mean drivers etc.) 23.42.15 # <[Saint]> What I mean is there's no pressing need to be using the latest original firmware (ie. the one that may be on your device) if you are going to be replacing it completely and installing Rockbox anyway. 23.42.31 # <[Saint]> And, no, the original firmware has absolutely no bearing on Rockbox. 23.43.06 # good to know, thanks 23.43.26 # <[Saint]> the bootloader patcher only allows patching of FW that it knows exists, that's all. 23.44.27 # I guess 01.02.18 is supported 23.44.59 # yes, it's supported if you download and compile yourself the latest version. 23.47.11 # or just use the latest Rockbox Utility version 23.48.48 # the only thing I am thinking about is, that if i received new player with later version already, and to install Rockbox i downgrade stock f/w, there will not be hardware incompatibility issues? May I have a bit different hardware inside if production line is never 23.49.18 # not all versions of Rockbox Utility are accessible 23.51.14 # ?