--- Log for 12.04.115 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 days and 10 hours ago 00.01.45 Quit shmibs (Remote host closed the connection) 00.02.15 Join shmibs [0] (~shmibs@107.170.254.248) 00.03.36 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 00.10.04 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 00.14.45 Quit shmibs (Remote host closed the connection) 00.15.16 Join shmibs [0] (~shmibs@107.170.254.248) 00.20.03 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 00.38.43 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.54.29 Quit ender` (Quit: I maintain there is much more wonder in science than in pseudoscience. And in addition, to whatever measure this term has any meaning, science has the additional virtue, and it is not an inconsiderable one, of being true. -- Carl Sagan) 01.05.38 Quit Polarus (Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/) 01.25.24 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0/20150409144858]) 01.29.16 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.32.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.36.39 # <[Saint]> "the only thing I am thinking about is, that if i received new player with later version already, and to install Rockbox i downgrade stock f/w, there will not be hardware incompatibility issues? May I have a bit different hardware inside if production line is never" 01.36.41 # <[Saint]> Nope. 01.37.12 # <[Saint]> It is incredibly unlikely that these devices are even still being manufactured. 01.37.18 # <[Saint]> Let along new HW variants. 01.37.24 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 01.37.25 # <[Saint]> *alone 01.38.16 # <[Saint]> And, no, a new FW version won't affect the existing setup at all - especially where Rockbox is concerned. 01.38.45 # <[Saint]> Rockbox and the OF are entirely separate. 01.42.16 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.45.50 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 02.20.49 # so I just destroyed my ipod nano D: 02.21.08 # some ipod mini I bought on ebay came with a charger.... that turned out to be putting out 9.4 volts 02.21.16 # and the nano was less resillient I guess 02.23.06 # <[Saint]> Bwahahahaha! 02.23.09 # <[Saint]> (sorry) 02.24.48 # it is pretty funny that there are ipod chargers being sold at such high voltages, but it sucks :( 02.24.53 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@81.61.201.73.dyn.user.ono.com) 02.26.44 # <[7]> nano2g withstands up to 24V on the USB pins, and can even charge from that when applied to the firewire pins 02.27.02 # <[7]> (or was it only the classic that could charge from that? hm...) 02.28.04 # oh huh 02.28.14 # <[Saint]> alexbobp: it almost certainly isn't an official charger, it should be communicating power requirements between the device and the charger via electrical resistence. 02.28.22 # I'm now trying to graft a regular usb cable onto the cord from this charger 02.28.41 # and I can't get these things to charge off 5v 02.28.50 # so maybe you're right about different pins 02.28.59 # <[Saint]> The official chargers don't just dumbly pipe whatever juice they can into whatever connects to it. 02.29.07 # <[Saint]> Smells like you got yourself a fake hun. 02.29.23 # <[Saint]> Which is hilariously likely. 02.29.53 # oh I'm sure. there was literally no brand name on the wall wart 02.30.59 # <[Saint]> So, not an iPod charger, then. ;) 02.31.21 # <[Saint]> Just "a charger that happens to have a USB port on it" 02.31.29 # no, an ipod port 02.31.38 # it's the wall wart with cable sort of thing 02.32.16 # <[Saint]> And the cable isn't able to be disconnected? That should be key, AFAIK Apple makes nothing like this. 02.32.40 # I knew it was third party, I just didn't know it would fry the thing :P 02.32.53 # it was sent to me with a used ipod 02.33.11 # so the previous owner bought it at some point 02.33.45 # <[Saint]> It really shouldn't have fried it, but, because of its nature there's no guaranteeing that the pinout is even remotely correct. 02.33.56 # <[Saint]> Probably best to just heave it in the trash. 02.35.42 # [Saint]: yeah, I already clipped the cable in half, and was trying to graft the connector onto a regular usb cable 02.35.51 # but I think you're right about the pinout since I can't get it to do anything useful 02.36.23 # what are the chances the fried nano is something I can fix? 02.36.35 # I guess at least I'll open it and look for scorch marks 02.40.32 # [Saint]: but all-in-all life is good because I have the classiest ipod mini. 02.40.59 # the bottom plastic cap is duct-taped on so it stays, and on the back there's a plastic clip attached with permanent mounting tape, and 32GB scrawled over the capacity in permanent marker 02.41.23 # <[Saint]> I've got my mini open at present, been waiting on a new battery that's been "shipping: 2 days pending" for over a week. :-/ 02.42.52 # dang D: 02.43.11 # this is the battery I use: http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-1300mAh-Battery-Screwdriver-iPod/dp/B004I4ZZU4 02.43.23 # ordered it twice (one was an upgraded ipod mini I gifted to a friend) 02.43.45 # good results, and of course good shipping since it's handled by amazon 02.44.27 # and my ever-growing collection of tiny screwdrivers is nice too 02.44.28 # <[Saint]> I would really question the validity of that 1.3A 02.44.33 # <[Saint]> like, reaaaaly. 02.44.36 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02.45.07 # maybe, but lower capacity batteries weren't any cheaper anyways 02.45.17 # <[Saint]> granted. 02.45.30 # I can't vouch for 1.3A but I can vouch for good enough and cheap 02.46.39 # <[Saint]> I used to have a place here that imported cells for all sorts of shit, mainly cordless phones, and they could make large capacity high density cells but I lost them after the earthquakes here. 02.46.59 # dang :( 02.47.08 # that sounds awesome... 02.47.35 # <[Saint]> yeah, it's really hard to find places that can make up custom cells to suit an application these days. 02.47.40 # <[Saint]> for cheap anyway. 02.49.33 # <[7]> the battery specs do seem reasonable though, for size, weight and price 02.49.44 # <[7]> 1300mAh in that size is fairly common 02.50.07 # <[7]> chinese junk might only reach those under somewhat ideal conditions, so likely effectively more like 1000, but it isn't all the way off at least 03.32.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.59.47 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.00.06 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 04.12.49 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 04.20.31 Nick pablo_pi_ is now 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