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(~wodz@89-75-106-221.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.30.25 # pamaury: hey! 22.30.42 # wodz: hey, how are you ? 22.31.15 # pamaury: I am ok, busy as usual. 22.32.29 # pamaury: I found one reason why sd init failed on atj. It is quite interesting. SD spec says that after power up, card may consume up to 74 clock cycles *before* accepting any command. 22.32.52 # yes indeed 22.33.10 # which is a pain because many controllers don't really provide the necessary bits to ensure this 22.33.47 # I should have thought about it... 22.33.59 # i'm ripping a pile of CDs to Apple iPod.. which codec i should use for good quality + small size + long battery life? 22.34.06 # ogg / acc? 22.34.07 # aac 22.34.11 # i meant 22.34.21 # pamaury: Apparently one of my test cards needs this dummy clocks. No matter how long I wait after power up it ignores commands as unles sufficient clock cycles aren't provided. 22.34.28 # does iPod have somekind of decoder chip for some format(s)...? 22.34.49 # because decoding with CPU probably drains the battery more? 22.34.49 # draft: No decoding is pure software. 22.34.59 # no hardware decoding? 22.35.01 # ok 22.35.28 # draft: If you use rockbox (which I assume you are) ogg is pretty good. 22.35.33 # should i ogg or aac them? which one has better quality on smaller sizes? 22.35.34 # yes 22.35.36 # rockbox 22.35.45 # i just encoded some stuff with -v5 22.35.47 # wodz: interesting, I don't think I've encountered such a card ^^ 22.35.56 # ogg decoder is much better optimized. 22.36.01 # ok 22.36.15 # i thought iPod's have hardware chip for AAC decoding? 22.36.44 # so Rockbox doesn't use hardware decoders on the players? only software? 22.36.45 # draft: no. Even original firmware decodes purely in software. 22.37.07 # but not on all players? 22.37.36 # I think hardware decoding went out in 2003 or so, except on very cheap players 22.38.09 # ok 22.38.54 # gevaerts: depends how you define hardware decoding. Many cheap chinese socs have dsp core for this stuff. Not exactly hardware, not general processor either. 22.39.01 # i have all of the rips as FLAC. i used dbPoweramp Mass Converter to convert them to -q 5... it sounded pretty good. 22.39.35 # the codec used was ogg vorbis (aoTuV SSE3) 22.39.54 # wodz: I'd count that as hardware. I mean, as far as I know even the mas chips in the old archoses can do other stuff if you give them different firmware 22.40.19 # And if you go down that route you end up with no hardware decoding at all :) 22.40.23 # plain ogg vorbis was also a possibility. what's difference in aoTuV and normal ogg? 22.40.32 # SSE3 is instruction set for CPU i reckon 22.40.39 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 15 minutes and 40 seconds at the last flood 22.40.39 # * gevaerts got rid of HWCODEC! :) 22.41.19 # draft: same format, different encoder I guess 22.41.27 # Maybe just SSE3, yes 22.41.37 # In which case it's merely faster 22.42.08 # faster *encoder* optimized for x86 sse3 simd instructions 22.43.09 # but what's aoTuV is it better or worse? 22.43.25 # Same thing, just fater to encode, probably 22.44.45 # "Additionally, on Windows and OS X, fre:ac uses the aoTuV Vorbis encoder which is optimized for quality especially at lower bitrates. It should produce slightly better quality audio files than the official Xiph.org Vorbis encoder." 22.45.20 # Well, encoder may differ in psychoacustic model applied which influence the quality. 22.45.41 # draft: the main thing if you keep flac files is that if you make the wrong choice, just reencoding isn't really a big problem 22.46.13 # yes.. that's why i saved them. 22.46.32 # is there a good util to handle tags? 22.46.59 # like Mp3tag is for MP3s? 22.47.07 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 22.47.16 # ... it seems to support .ogg too. 22.47.20 # :) 22.48.18 # all encoding of this stoner rock/doom metal and smoking got me a little dizzy :) 22.49.01 # shame my friend didn't save .log files for them... but they all ripped accurately. 22.49.18 # is it possible to generate log file from .flac files from freedb or sumthing? 22.50.07 # You mean to fill in tags? 22.50.26 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0/20150420134330]) 22.50.38 # Many people like MusicBrainz Picard for that 22.51.22 # That one uses some sort of audio fingerprinting to identify tracks 22.53.10 Quit TheLemonMan (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.56.09 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 22.56.37 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 22.57.29 Part LinusN 22.59.40 # it's for music preservation project.. they need .log from dbPoweramp i think. but it's not probably relevant on this channel. i'll ask them. 23.01.50 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 23.03.53 Quit y4n (Quit: Assumption is the mother of all fuckups) 23.11.07 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@unaffiliated/franklin) 23.11.32 Nick Mir_ is now known as Mir (~Mir@pool-100-39-12-139.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) 23.19.42 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 23.25.57 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 23.27.42 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 23.43.08 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@77-173-17-40.ip.telfort.nl) 23.50.13 Join [Saint] [0] (77e023af@rockbox/staff/saint)