--- Log for 29.04.115 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 15 hours ago 00.05.38 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 00.09.24 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 00.13.32 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.15.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.18.09 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.18.23 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1) 00.18.24 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.19.57 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 00.27.44 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 00.28.13 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 00.38.29 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.40.27 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 00.41.55 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 00.43.13 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 00.50.01 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 00.56.28 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.57.06 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 01.05.08 Quit ender` (Quit: PHP is a minor evil perpetrated and created by incompetent amateurs, whereas Perl is a great and insidious evil, perpetrated by skilled but perverted professionals.) 02.15.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.22.01 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 02.22.01 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 02.25.14 Join amiconn [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.25.15 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.38.08 Quit [Franklin] (Quit: Lost terminal) 02.49.12 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.50.30 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 03.42.01 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 04.15.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.17.23 Nick foolsh_ is now known as foolsh (~quassel@c-50-129-6-16.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 04.48.46 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.51.01 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@83.175.90.24) 05.26.20 Quit goom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.26.47 Join goom [0] (~go4m@cpe-66-25-153-174.satx.res.rr.com) 05.30.19 Quit Hadaka (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 05.30.37 Join Hadaka [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 05.46.20 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.48.22 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 05.49.31 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.54.20 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 06.15.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.33.05 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-73-210.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 06.33.05 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 06.33.05 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.33.35 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.04.11 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07.17.15 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 07.31.52 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@77-173-17-40.ip.telfort.nl) 07.31.59 Join Provel [0] (~Provel@75-132-51-111.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 07.50.48 Join advcomp2019__ [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 07.51.34 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-86-49-15-121.net.upcbroadband.cz) 07.54.15 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07.59.23 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.12.51 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Page closed) 08.15.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.22.44 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 08.26.24 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 08.27.12 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.47.54 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.53.49 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@212.44.150.238) 09.09.08 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.14.28 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@81.30.33.177) 09.26.37 Quit Provel (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.26.46 Join Provel [0] (~Provel@75-132-51-111.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 09.34.04 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@wced-144-218-32-147.feld.cvut.cz) 09.42.43 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.11.50 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 10.12.25 # pamaury: I saw you added some info about lcd to x3 page. Did you start disasm of the x3 firmware? 10.15.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.18.09 # no, it was information from the forum, a guy told me he had the x3 and wanted to upload some information 10.18.26 # and photo 10.23.58 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.50.13 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.53.42 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.57.10 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@wced-144-218-32-147.feld.cvut.cz) 11.21.23 # pamaury: btw. sending 80 clocks to the card before initialization helps only in the area that all cards that I have started to behave consistently. I still have strange 'aligning' issue. Running from uncached address doesn't change anything (except for code running sloooow). Playing with compiler optimization gives mixed results but I thing this may very well be the consequence of code shift in memory. 11.21.30 # 3Gerrit review #80 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/80 : 3skin engine: New logical 'and' and 'or' tags to evaluate multiple tags in a single... by Jonathan Gordon 11.21.35 # pfff 11.22.15 # yeah this one is weird, maybe a timing or clock issue ? 11.22.48 # clock issue should manifest equally in all commands I think. 11.23.50 # if that's an internal bus clock problem, it should only happen on data commands. Is it always the same command(s) failing ? 11.24.20 # ah, you mean system/mem/etc. bus inside soc? 11.26.14 # yes 11.26.53 # well, I run the commands with the same clock settings as hwstub do. Hwstub works, C code not 11.27.03 # ok 11.27.07 # weird indeed 11.27.22 # have you tried to insert a delay after each register write ? 11.28.14 # anyway, I can move asm volatile("nop") which makes things work here and there between functions so it doesn't look like particularly important delay 11.29.58 # and 1 nop is like 0.03 us in this configuration - barely noticeably. Moreover there is the pattern that 1 and 2 nops -> working 3-4 nops -> nonworking, 5-6 nops -> working 11.30.06 # I didn't check further 11.31.23 # pamaury: ^ 11.31.25 # how is it possible that code alignement changes anything when memory is not cached ?! 11.31.58 # the other possibility is that of bad code generation of course 11.32.19 # hmm, might try different compiler indeed 11.32.58 # or maybe compiler the compiler output when you move the nop ? 11.33.01 # *compare 11.33.59 # mips doesn't have instruction hazard ? (like you must not execute some instruction right after another) 11.35.04 # I tried to compare. But it is hard as linker may realign functions when it decides to throw out something. So moving nops down the call chain doesn't produce linear shift in memory 11.35.33 # I see 11.35.49 # so yeah another compiler maybe 11.35.52 # pamaury: 4k core is interlocked so despite very special situations the hazard should be resolved by the hardware 11.36.06 # ok that's what I thought 11.41.23 # I see one possibility of misbehaving. Rather unlikely but... If dram configuration is wrong there should be address boundary where you hit memory alias instead of 'continuous' address. BUT this should have severe consequences and manifest early. 11.42.52 # maybe I should cheat and try to run this code off iram to exclude this possibility 12.02.12 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.15.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.18.03 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 12.24.02 # hwstub runs entirely from iram. Thats the big difference. I need to investigate this definitely. 12.27.22 # wodz: indeed, your theory is not that bad actually, dram config is quite subtle, if you get it wrong, strange things could happen 12.30.41 # how do you configure the memory ? 12.31.12 # I upload first stage grabbed from e150 firmware package. 12.31.57 # I think I checked how dram behaves with hwstub but I may be wrong 12.33.35 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.33.35 # What makes me wonder is that uploading first stage didn't work on your e100 AFAIK 13.13.56 Quit the-kyle (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 13.14.41 Nick Catwich is now known as Artox (~Artox@79.98.110.103) 13.15.01 Nick Artox is now known as TrojanHorse (~Artox@79.98.110.103) 13.33.59 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 13.42.26 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@kyle.tk) 13.53.01 Quit wodz (Remote host closed the connection) 14.06.17 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 14.07.24 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 14.15.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.25.24 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.50.25 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 15.01.53 Quit ir2ivps9 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.04.36 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@li303-111.members.linode.com) 15.28.24 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 15.28.29 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 15.32.16 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 15.33.03 Join ir2ivps9 [0] (~ir2ivps9@169.53.134.171-static.reverse.softlayer.com) 15.33.14 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053152050.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.49.00 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.50.50 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 16.07.47 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16.15.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.21.48 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 16.24.07 Join fotografisto [0] (~fotografi@50-193-82-254-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 16.34.21 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE8EF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.56.56 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-86-49-15-121.net.upcbroadband.cz) 17.28.26 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.59.51 Quit pablo_mobile (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.04.20 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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