--- Log for 12.05.115 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 14 days and 15 hours ago 00.10.35 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 00.17.20 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.22.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.23.53 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 00.34.22 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 00.34.45 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 00.38.52 Join fotografisto [0] (~fotografi@50-193-82-254-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 00.48.01 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 00.52.14 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit.) 01.00.58 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 01.01.01 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit) 01.03.23 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.19.54 Quit goom (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.25.07 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 01.26.33 Join goom [0] (~go4m@cpe-66-25-153-174.satx.res.rr.com) 01.28.10 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 01.52.34 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.54.05 # I see lorenzo doing something interesting things with palm devices lately, I can't wait til the sources are available. I'm sure HaRet -> linux -> rockbox on these old WinCE would be totally possible 01.59.38 # <[Saint]> I found it mildly hilarious that it is using a 4.x kernel 02.00.19 # <[Saint]> I really want to try and revive ipodlinux a bit, especially with the pp ipods in mind. 02.00.31 # <[Saint]> I believe dreamlayers is working in that direction. 02.01.00 # <[Saint]> I had a bit of a poke around on his blog/github repo. 02.03.32 # been kicking around with openembedded's bitbake build system, I was surprised to find the kernel support for many old SOC windows mobile devices already there, nice and tidy like 02.04.30 # Want to really know what he meant by "hybrid" build 02.04.45 # kernel module maybe :) 02.05.00 # that would be cra 02.05.58 # <[Saint]> I've been poking around with my fleet of ODROID devices lately, nothing terribly interesting, and not Rockbox related. 02.06.26 # <[Saint]> Just wrapping 'pretty' ncurses stuffs around my cli interfaces. 02.21.45 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02.22.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.22.41 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 03.02.03 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-232-116.mcn.bellsouth.net) 03.05.10 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 03.13.52 # Dammit, now I want a Tungsten E2 for that new WIP port. 03.14.01 # <[Franklin]> same 03.16.46 # The funny thing is, I have plenty of OS5 Palms - just not that one. 03.17.14 # All with a similar CPU, to boot. 03.18.24 # <[Franklin]> well, you can always start a new port ;) 03.19.13 # Ahahahaha. 03.20.12 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 03.20.13 # By the time I got one to "technically usable" status, most of this channel would likely be dead. :/ 03.27.15 # <[Saint]> Once most of it is in place, porting it to other similar Palm deveices would be fairly trivial. 03.27.29 # <[Saint]> FOSS developers are all over the Palm devices like flies on shit. 03.27.55 # <[Saint]> So, subsequently, there's a lot of kernel/module code out there in the Internet-o-sphere. 03.28.17 # Are they? 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It isn't his github, just a repo he happened to be distributing which I picked up. 10.19.39 # <[Saint]> from http://dreamlayers.blogspot.co.nz/2015/04/compiling-ipodlinux-26-kernel.html 10.21.33 # <[Saint]> I also messed around with http://dreamlayers.blogspot.co.nz/2015/04/getting-ipod-hard-drive-smart-data-via.html a bit, which was mildly amusing. 10.21.41 Join fotografisto2 [0] (~fotografi@50-193-82-254-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 10.22.09 Quit fotografisto (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.22.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.22.22 # <[Saint]> 'Getting iPod hard drive SMART data via iPodLinux' 10.30.04 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 10.31.37 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 10.34.32 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 10.45.57 Quit green_bacon (Quit: Page closed) 10.50.04 # [Saint]: IPL deserves memorial plaque in RE hall of fame but seriously this is dead project. 10.50.38 # [Saint]: having pass through support in rb for reading smart over usb sonds interesting though 10.51.21 # [Saint]: Although realistically I seriously doubt someone will step in for this task 11.06.04 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 11.13.24 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.23.22 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 11.30.08 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 11.34.56 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.22.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.30.52 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 12.32.49 # pamaury: Maybe you can help me understand what is going on with this mux stuff. Consider this https://github.com/wodz/rockbox-atj213x/blob/master/firmware/target/mips/atj213x/gpio-atj213x.c 12.34.47 # In lcd_update_rect() I have save = atj213x_gpio_muxsel(GPIO_MUXSEL_LCM); at the very top and atj213x_gpio_muxsel(save); at the bottom. Threads are cooperative so unless something messing with mux is called from irq context this should be safe. 12.35.43 # Now I have the same situation in sd driver where I grab mux at the very top of function which sends command to sd and restore at the very end. 12.35.57 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 12.36.18 # sd code doesn't call and printing function to avoid switching mux in the middle. 12.36.44 # So now how is it possible to interfere? 13.08.35 Quit dan- (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.25.10 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-34-211.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 13.25.10 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 13.25.10 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.27.44 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 13.30.54 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13.44.21 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 13.50.59 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.51.29 Join japc [0] (~japc@194.65.5.235) 13.54.29 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 14.07.39 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 14.07.44 Join dan- [0] (~d@101.165.69.45) 14.07.44 Quit dan- (Changing host) 14.07.44 Join dan- [0] (~d@unaffiliated/danneh-/x-7505085) 14.10.19 # wodz: I'm not sure I see the point of save/restore ? 14.10.39 # also are you sure no function called between save/restore can yield ? 14.13.06 # pamaury: I did save/restore to easily pair the calls when looking at the source + protect from recursion corrupting restore of mux value (not sure this happen in reality). I might have missed something but I think I use only busy loops in this code so far. 14.14.43 # wodz: no semaphore ? 14.15.24 # pamaury: I commented it all for now 14.18.08 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.21.02 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14.22.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.26.16 # pamaury: BTW. I found pretty smart stack unwinder for mips. It has some limitation but is extremely compact and should work pretty well for gcc generated code. 14.37.02 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.40.13 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.58.45 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 15.00.24 # wodz: cool :) 15.04.40 # pamaury: are you finished with manuscript? 15.04.52 # I finish today, polishing stuff 15.04.58 # \o/ 15.06.16 # cool! 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