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Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@sphinx.lix.polytechnique.fr) 11.31.19 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 11.31.19 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.37.25 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.38.02 Join maruk [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 11.42.25 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 11.51.21 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@81.61.201.73.dyn.user.ono.com) 11.53.41 Quit CustosLimen (Read error: Connection timed out) 11.58.02 Join CustosLimen [0] (~CustosLim@unaffiliated/cust0slim3n) 12.35.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.56.58 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 12.57.52 # pamaury: Have you seen that lua5.3 finally defined bitwise operators? 12.58.05 # wodz: no, actually I didn't know lua5.3 was out :-p 12.58.11 # that's great news 12.59.13 # by default it uses 64bit representation for ints but this should not harm in case of hwstub scripts 12.59.46 # does it use the same operators as in C ? 13.00.30 # that's nice, we will have to update the scripts 13.02.04 # pamaury: looks like operators are compatible with C, although the manual I am reading apparently has bug and states ~ both as xor and not :P 13.02.35 # same here... 13.05.40 # I'm trying to find the bug tracker to report this typo but I can't find it 13.06.39 # ~ is xor :/ 13.07.24 # so that's not a typo ? binary ~ is xor and unary is not ? 13.08.26 # a~b is a XOR b; ~b is NOT b 13.08.37 # pretty awkward 13.08.53 # yeah, like different from virtually all languages ! 13.10.32 # still better than hilarious bit32.xor and bit32.not 13.11.18 # ah, and the added integer division too 13.11.39 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@83.175.90.24) 13.18.13 # wodz: yeah the bit32 thing was annoying 13.18.26 # except maybe for bit32.replace which is useful 13.22.17 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 13.24.24 # pamaury: Are going to give X1 a try? 13.25.14 # yes, just so much work :( I thought I would have some free time before the defense but that's not obvious and I have a few deadlines, and my laptop loss doesn't make things any better :( 13.32.23 # if you have more free time maybe I can send you the X1 ? 13.34.43 # pamaury: good joke 13.34.48 # ;) 13.35.41 # pamaury: BTW. I am still thinking how to resolve gpio mux issue on atj. 13.36.58 # OF also uses cooperative multitasking so there must be 'easy' way to do it 13.44.06 # can you recall me the issue ? you need to mux between lcd and sd ? 13.45.53 # and nand but this is not used now 13.46.12 # pamaury: ^ 13.48.04 # assuming both happen in a thread and can block (I think that's a relatively safe assumption), you could use a mutex. The only thing is that you should ensure fair schedule otherwise sd could prevent lcd refresh very often 13.48.20 # (assuming you can detect the end of transfers on both lcd and sd controllers too) 13.49.01 # was the bug where having rockbox in usb mode connected to the PC would stop the PC booting ever fixed? 13.49.06 # gevaerts: ^ 13.49.24 # JdGordon_: isn't that a bios bug ? 13.49.29 # JdGordon_: was it ever properly diagnosed? 13.49.46 # wodz: ^ 13.49.47 # I know there have been some reports about such things, but I don't remember anything very clear 13.50.48 # got pretty frustrated trying to boot my pc today.. stupid fuze was plugged in, asking because i'm running a pretty old build 13.50.55 # pamaury: I can detect end of transfers, no problem. But this implies that during sd transfer there is no way to output something to screen. Thats very troublesome during debugging. This will break panicf() as well if this happens in sd code 13.51.37 # pamaury: I am also not entirely sure lcd updates can't happen from irq 13.53.50 # appart from this I don't see an easy way, if you don't use a mutex, you'll have to use clever tricks to know if it's safe or not to change the mux 13.54.05 # that means either busy wait or postponing the operation 13.55.40 # for example, imagine there is an LCD transfer on the way, another thread panic, triggers lcd update, then it will have to wait 13.56.08 # Lets assume I can leave without printing to the screen from sd functions. What about panicf(). With mutex it would need explicit mutex release and acquire for lcd transfer to happen 13.56.38 # yeah with the mutex you can't make the panicf case work easily 13.56.44 # I agree that's a problem 13.57.18 # can you detect the end of a transfer without an IRQ (ie just reading some registers) ? 14.01.54 # IIRC yes 14.02.48 # that would defeat the benefits of DMA transfers (which are not used now) 14.05.49 # I need to think about it. If the DMA controller is very smart I guess you can do something but if it's not, I think the problem is not trivial, especially if you still want the whole thing to work with in IRQ or when IRQ are disabled 14.08.02 # also it's quite annoying, I lost a fair deal of datasheets with my computer, and I forgot to save those, now I need to find them again... 14.09.43 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 14.17.35 # pamaury: which one, maybe I have some in my archive? 14.18.11 # that's the thing, I don't know. I'll have to check that out tonight 14.18.28 # I'll send you a mail if I miss some you might have 14.31.51 # pamaury: DMA controller is rather basic. It doesn't any smart features like geather-scatter or such. 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We'd like to use Rockbox and a Sandisk clip player to record if and when patients played each of the tracks on a player we give them pre-loaded. I know Rockbox has a play count in the db, but wonder how hard this would be to extend such that we create 'many rows per track' and could capture exactly when each track was played over a 16.49.02 # It may be possb 16.50.17 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 16.51.15 # bigfudge2015: have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LastFMLog 16.55.50 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.14.02 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 17.15.49 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 17.22.15 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 17.22.36 Quit bigfudge2015 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.23.58 Join Electricguy [0] (~quassel@78-69-6-109-no123.tbcn.telia.com) 17.29.32 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 17.33.35 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 17.52.09 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 18.00.58 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 18.03.36 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 18.04.13 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@sphinx.lix.polytechnique.fr) 18.04.13 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 18.04.13 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.04.20 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.35.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.45.40 Join bigfudge2015 [0] (53d89f68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.216.159.104) 18.55.42 Quit maruk (Quit: Leaving.) 18.56.50 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.03.15 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.06.48 Quit bigfudge2015 (Quit: Page closed) 19.18.48 # hmm. Last Rockbox release is now over 2 years old ... 19.23.06 Quit CustosLimen (Max SendQ exceeded) 19.24.01 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 19.25.50 Join CustosLimen [0] (~CustosLim@unaffiliated/cust0slim3n) 19.35.07 Join JordiGH [0] (~jordi@octave/developer/JordiGH) 19.35.23 # How difficult or impossible would it be to get Rockbox to run on something that I can buy off Adafruit? 19.37.20 # raspberry pi with the sdl application build on it? 19.37.27 # For example. 19.37.34 # They have several things for sale. 19.37.53 # Since Sansa has almost completly discontinued their Clip series, maybe I can build my own? 19.38.49 # Maybe I can build my own waterproof rockbox-based player that I can use when I'm swimming laps. 19.39.07 # Hell, if one of you want to build me one, I'd be willing to pay. :-) 19.43.37 # I'd say anything that runs linux, has a more or less decent CPU, has audio, and has a few gpios so you can have buttons should be fairly easy to get working 19.43.59 # What does Linux have to do with it? 19.44.04 # I didn't know Rockbox used Linux. 19.44.48 # It can run on top of linux. 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