--- Log for 15.06.115 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 18 days ago 00.00.18 # <[Saint]> That's possible, but not trivial. 00.00.43 # <[Saint]> The touch detection is just plain bad, so I'm not sure how gracefully such a thing would work. 00.01.21 # <[Saint]> even with the ability to tweak the sensitivity you can only really adjust it from "terrible" to "awful" to "acceptably bad". 00.01.53 # oh, where would i start? (meaning what files should i look at) 00.02.08 Quit ender` (Quit: I invented the term 'Object-Oriented', and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind. -- Alan Kay) 00.02.32 # <[Franklin]> has anyone thought about upgrading gerrit yet? 00.02.51 # <[Saint]> Sure. 00.03.16 Nick suYin is now known as suYin`OFF (suYin@server1.bouncer4you.de) 00.03.18 # <[Saint]> If thinking about it was sufficient it'd be done already. 00.03.47 # <[Franklin]> what's in the way of it getting done? 00.04.43 # * foolsh bwats a dead horse with [Franklin] 00.04.47 # beats* 00.06.59 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 00.08.55 Quit shamus (Client Quit) 00.09.26 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 00.11.41 Quit Electricguy (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.11.49 # basically, what i`m asking is where is the fuze+ touchpad driver implemented? 00.12.49 # <[Saint]> offhand, dunno. I suspect grepping for HAVE_TOUCHPAD will tell you though. 00.13.05 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.14.04 # <[Saint]> Better watch yourself foolsh - Dr. Dre will slap you on the bum - that's a registered trademark! 00.15.59 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.16.01 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.17.52 Quit shamus (Quit: chaos reigns within reflect repent and reboot order shall return) 00.18.29 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 00.26.38 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.32.13 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 00.32.46 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 00.36.29 # jtdesigns01: The touchpad driver is really an array of virtual buttons implemented in /firmware/target/arm/imx233/sansa-fuzeplus/button-fuzeplus.c and defined in /firmware/target/arm/imx233/sansa-fuzeplus/button-target.h 00.38.07 # <[Saint]> klunky-ass gesture support would be fairly trivial to add. 00.38.21 # <[Saint]> "real" gesture support...dunno, pass. 00.39.10 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 00.39.24 # <[Saint]> by "klunk-ass" gesture support, I mean just noting if a given segment of the touchpad was touched within a given timeframe of its neighbor(s) that make up any given gesture. 00.39.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.39.44 # <[Saint]> ....something something, given. 00.41.32 # Yes, the "boolean" nature of the present way it handles a button press is only just good enough for what it's used for currently 00.42.58 # <[Saint]> The horrible nest of conditions required to implement the aforementioned "klunky-ass" gesture support gives me a cold sweat thinking about it. 00.43.35 # <[Saint]> though it would be far removed from being the only example of ifdef hell in the rb sources, should it happen. 00.44.13 # yeah some of those I've seen are pretty deep :P 00.44.56 # * foolsh thought about attaching little rubber pads to make extra buttons and a Dpad, thus extending the number of possible virtual buttons on his fuze+ beyond the 3x3 grid 00.45.55 # initial tests seemed to make me believe it would work, but it's polishing a turd 00.46.12 # <[Saint]> instead of a 3x3 grid, just split it up into a 6x21 full QWERTYY keyboard. :)) 00.46.48 # <[Saint]> or AZERTY, hell...even DVORAK, whatever floats your boat. :) 00.46.51 # That would be swee!!, all I need is a pencil sharpener to use on my fingers! 00.47.09 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 00.47.41 # oh hell, does this thing do usb host? 00.47.45 # :D 00.55.50 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit.) 00.56.15 Join [Saint] [0] (~hayden@rockbox/staff/saint) 00.57.08 Quit WakiMiko (Max SendQ exceeded) 00.58.05 Join WakiMiko [0] (~WakiMiko@unaffiliated/wakimiko) 00.58.42 Quit WakiMiko (Max SendQ exceeded) 00.59.28 Join WakiMiko [0] (~WakiMiko@unaffiliated/wakimiko) 01.21.24 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-202-173.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) 01.21.24 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 01.21.24 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.24.23 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.29.01 Join autofsckk [0] (~autofsckk@unaffiliated/autofsckk) 01.32.33 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 01.41.57 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.52.31 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 01.56.33 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 01.58.07 # hello i want to make a playlist but i dont know how, i use linux and tried with rythmbox an audacious with no luck, i know that i have to change the path, but i really preciate if somebody could give me a hint about this, thanks in advance 02.01.34 # <[Saint]> assuming the basic structure is the same you shouldn't even have to change the path. 02.01.46 # <[Saint]> It should strip from the front of the path until it finds a match. 02.01.51 # <[Saint]> (by my understanding) 02.04.07 # [Saint]: it seems that it is working now, i tried with clementine another player and is working 02.04.49 # <[Saint]> were you trying to export as something other than m3u(8) by any chance? 02.05.11 # and about your explanation, i agree with you but when i did the playlist with other player it did not work 02.05.16 # no 02.05.41 # if i export it as just m3u it just dont appear at the playlists folder 02.06.44 # and i just wanted to say that rockbox reall rocks, its great, thanks a lot for doing it 02.07.28 # <[Saint]> You're aware that playlists don't need to be in any locaiton, right? 02.07.42 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.07.44 # <[Saint]> They can be literally anywhere, they need not reside in /Playlists 02.07.59 # yes 02.08.05 # i understand that 02.08.28 # <[Saint]> They only need to be there to make use of the Playlist Catalogue (which is something I'd like to fix but never got around to) 02.08.34 # the important thing is the path right? considering the root path from the player's hd 02.10.33 # <[Saint]> Yes. But as long as the paths are relative it should "Just Work". As in if you created a playlist from files on your PC at /home/user/Music/Artist/Album/Track it should work and strip the path automatically if the files reside at, say, /Music/Artist/Album/Track on the device. 02.12.40 # ok i didnt know that 02.39.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.40.42 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 02.55.39 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02.59.55 Quit CustosLimen (Max SendQ exceeded) 03.00.12 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 03.01.56 Join CustosLimen [0] (~CustosLim@unaffiliated/cust0slim3n) 03.03.53 # So I'm looking at ./firmware/target/arm/imx233/sansa-fuzeplus/button-fuzeplus.c and tell me if I'm wrong or not (I'm probably wrong) but if we split "find_button()" function into separate functions for each button aka "find_button_up() find_button_down() etc" Would this be enough to enable multiple button press detection? 03.05.49 # Or am I thinking about concurrency all wrong? 03.06.25 # <[Saint]> From memory I don't think the touchpad can track multipoint. 03.06.34 # <[Saint]> But I'm far from positive. 03.07.10 # damn, it would average them wouldn't it 03.07.15 # I would 03.08.20 # well it depends. i think we would need to do a lot more than just change the functions in the driver 03.08.59 # i think we would need to change the way we loop and deal with presses 03.11.06 # <[Saint]> I /believe/ it is a hardware limitation. 03.11.23 # <[Saint]> I think it is physically incapable of tracking multiple touch points. 03.11.31 # oh. not fun. 03.11.56 # there are some comments that suggest otherwise, but how can we know? 03.12.00 # <[Saint]> Its not uncommon (well, increasingly so nowadays, but not rare), but, yeah. 03.12.07 # look in the function touchpad_init 03.12.09 # <[Saint]> It sucks for our uses if I'm remembering correctly. 03.12.14 # has multi finger: yes 03.12.19 # <[Saint]> Hmmm. 03.12.46 # it may or not be correct 03.13.32 # well, the question is: is there a way that we could query to check if a *certain point* is pressed; rather than *what* point is pressed 03.13.51 # or is there a different way of doing this? 03.14.29 # <[Saint]> Now, I'm a little drunk, I'll admit - but I fail to parse that. 03.14.38 # <[Saint]> The seem functionally identical statements. 03.14.45 # <[Saint]> *they 03.16.42 # we need to somehow check all the points on the pad and see which ones are pressed. as opposed to running a function that gives us *the* point that is pressed. 03.17.06 # <[Saint]> Ah. 03.18.22 # or is there a better way? 03.18.58 # jtdesigns01: pamaury would more intamite with the fuze+ hardware than I am. I assume he's vacationing or traveling or deep in study somewhere underground and top secret (okay the last one was not really) but if you catch him, he would probably know a bit more about multi touch capabilites. 03.19.53 # ok. 03.22.55 # It shouldn't be too hard to try a gesturey kind of thingy though. it should probably be tested in the "System" menu before we try to integrate it as an actual control method though. 03.34.29 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 03.48.39 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04.02.49 Quit Moarc (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.04.45 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 04.08.08 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.17.41 Quit CustosLimen (Read error: Connection timed out) 04.18.58 Join CustosLimen [0] (~CustosLim@unaffiliated/cust0slim3n) 04.20.23 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 04.39.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.52.10 Quit n17ikh (Remote host closed the connection) 04.53.26 Join n17ikh [0] 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If you press with two fingers, it's undefined, not even an average 23.42.59 # It has "hardware" support for gestures but these are just terrible, trust me on that (hint: the OF uses the hardware gestures). So it could be possible to implement gestures in software,it would like (for swipe for example) but it's a lot of work 23.43.24 # also it's probably quite context dependent 23.43.53 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection)