--- Log for 24.06.115 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 27 days ago 00.03.05 Quit Moarc (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.04.08 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 00.05.10 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 00.37.18 Quit byteframe (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.38.44 Join byteframe [0] (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) 00.40.06 Quit ender` (Quit: A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams) 00.44.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.46.24 Quit girafe (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.48.55 Quit xorly| (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.06.52 Quit fyre^OS (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.15.59 Join Ivo [0] (~Ivoah@p-74-209-19-197.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net) 01.16.23 Nick Ivo is now known as Guest56128 (~Ivoah@p-74-209-19-197.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net) 01.18.04 Quit Ivoah (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01.20.33 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 01.29.44 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 01.32.11 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.33.33 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 01.35.41 Quit Cinos (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01.36.38 Nick Guest56128 is now known as Ivoah (~Ivoah@p-74-209-19-197.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net) 01.39.15 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-237-21.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.47.20 Join Cinos [0] (Cinos@cinos.pw) 01.49.44 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.12.50 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 02.23.51 Quit [Franklin] (Remote host closed the connection) 02.24.29 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 02.34.00 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.44.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.48.04 Join HazWard [0] (~starly@modemcable086.155-160-184.mc.videotron.ca) 03.14.23 Quit HazWard (Quit: #mopidy) 03.14.32 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-248-206.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 03.37.17 Quit Bray90820 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.38.16 Join HazWard [0] (~starly@modemcable086.155-160-184.mc.videotron.ca) 03.45.29 Quit HazWard (Quit: WeeChat 1.2) 04.05.57 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 04.10.32 Quit amiconn (Quit: No Ping reply in 64 seconds.) 04.12.48 Join amiconn [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.13.55 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-248-206.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 04.19.37 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 04.25.07 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 04.31.04 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.36.25 Join Bray90820 [0] (~Bray90820@173-20-157-7.client.mchsi.com) 04.44.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.56.09 Quit Bray90820 () 04.59.33 Quit AlexP (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.27.28 Join Valley_Cat [0] (~Valley_Ca@c122-107-149-239.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au) 05.41.37 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.41.48 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.33.51 Join Cust0sLim3n [0] (~CustosLim@unaffiliated/cust0slim3n) 06.37.51 Quit CustosLimen (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06.44.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.48.49 Join Bray90820 [0] (~Bray90820@173-20-157-7.client.mchsi.com) 07.09.01 Join LauraG [0] (~lauradgh@201.170.137.24.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) 07.10.35 # Hello, I'm deciding whether or not buying the new sansa clip jam, so my most important question is, does it support rockbox? 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14.15.34 # if I remember correctly the Archoses and Irivers do 14.16.12 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 14.17.50 Quit wodz (Remote host closed the connection) 14.18.56 # hey pixelma thats what I remember too, of course I still have an old h340 but I would like to have something smaller with flash memory 14.38.40 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.44.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.51.24 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.32.38 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.44.50 Quit dfkt (Quit: Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 15.50.37 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 15.51.33 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 15.56.07 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.04.52 Quit Cust0sLim3n (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.10.43 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 16.15.51 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@31.172.206.219) 16.21.38 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.41.04 Join Markma___ [0] (~Markmaste@vpn-dc-184-173-166-155.hosts.getcloakvpn.com) 16.42.31 Join ChristW [0] (~christ@80.100.128.3) 16.42.38 Quit Markmaster (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.44.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.54.27 Quit ChristW (Quit: Leaving.) 17.14.08 Quit uber (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.18.16 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.26.00 Join uber [0] (~uber@unaffiliated/uber) 17.49.14 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 18.03.20 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 18.15.42 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 18.32.26 Nick suYin`OFF is now known as suYin (suYin@server1.bouncer4you.de) 18.34.41 Join LauraG [0] (~lauradgh@wsip-184-177-173-29.sd.sd.cox.net) 18.37.40 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 18.40.53 Quit tchan (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.44.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.47.30 Quit [Franklin] (Remote host closed the connection) 19.14.01 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-177-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.19.18 Quit perfectdrug_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.25.53 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.26.24 Join ChristW [0] (~christ@80.100.128.3) 19.26.43 Part ChristW 19.36.43 Join CustosLimen [0] (~CustosLim@unaffiliated/cust0slim3n) 19.38.10 Quit LauraG (Remote host closed the connection) 19.46.50 Join LauraG_ [0] (~lauradgh@wsip-184-177-173-29.sd.sd.cox.net) 19.47.20 # Hello, do you guys know if I can install Rockbox on a sansa clip jam? (the new one) 19.47.48 # I'm trying to figure out whether buying it or not 19.51.14 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 19.52.12 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 19.52.29 # LauraG_: theres a list of supported devices on the front page 19.54.02 # SanDisk: Sansa c200, e200 and e200R series, Fuze, Clip, Clip+ and Clip Zip 19.54.21 # Yeah, I don't see it, but I was wondering if there was any active development or plans on supporting it. 19.56.17 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 19.56.58 # LauraG_: it very much looks like the jam doesn't have powerful enough hardware for rockbox 19.59.22 # I see, I've had the clip+ for years and rockbox ran seamlessly, I'd expect a newer device would have better hardware. 19.59.58 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 20.05.42 # One would think so, yes, but apparently hardware costs beat all other criteria when they designed the new stuff 20.10.38 Nick krabador is now known as Guest54199 (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 20.10.53 Quit Guest54199 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.12.14 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 20.26.32 Join Markmaster [0] (~Markmaste@31.172.206.219) 20.30.05 Quit Markma___ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20.33.33 Join RiD [0] (RiD@bl22-0-3.dsl.telepac.pt) 20.34.09 Join girafe [0] (~girafe@AGrenoble-651-1-451-201.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.44.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.01.40 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@unaffiliated/franklin) 21.03.18 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.08.33 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 21.21.05 Quit uber (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.28.33 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.31.20 Join uber [0] (~uber@unaffiliated/uber) 21.41.13 Quit dan- (Quit: Nyan nyan) 21.55.34 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 22.02.27 # gevaerts: I doubt less powerful hardware is really cheaper these days :) 22.03.30 # prices mostly depend on units sold really 22.03.54 # I guess what they were looking for is better battery life with the same features. They achieved that 22.04.13 # even then 22.07.33 # and as it seems that the firmware is not developed by sandisk itself, they probably bought a "full package" SoC + firmware. I don't know if they really had much choice 22.08.27 # what is funny is that in settings>info I read the same copyright "2012 SanDisk. All rights reserved" as on my Clip Sport. They didn't even bother updating the copyright date. Ridiculous 22.08.34 # you always have a choice :) 22.08.38 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 22.09.07 # 2013* 22.12.01 # then why did they include shitty hardware? Just for making fun of customers? :) 22.12.04 Quit y4n (Quit: only amiga makes it possible) 22.13.58 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 22.15.28 Nick x56_ is now known as x56 (0x56@unaffiliated/x56) 22.20.29 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.26.23 Join byteframe_ [0] (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) 22.27.31 Quit byteframe (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.34.20 Join byteframe__ [0] (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) 22.35.10 Quit byteframe_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 22.37.08 # the newer sandisk players have no DRAM, which saves money 22.37.33 # cheaper packaging (fewer pins), more simple PCB, and no need to pay for the DRAM chip 22.43.28 Quit Hadaka (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22.43.35 Join Hadaka [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 22.44.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.45.02 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-75-106-221.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.47.01 Quit xorly| (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.48.57 # Honestly those people who look for DAP still are either joggers which care about size + battery life or hifi-voodoo-philes. The first group looks for cheap which means rebranded OEM reference design with cost cut to extreme, the second for 'quality' at respectful price. There is no middle now. 22.52.47 # yeah 22.53.05 # plus to actually design a high end player with complex software is really expensive, so you need to sell a lot of units 22.53.32 # theres no market for millions of iRiver or Fuze type devices 22.53.52 # said but true 22.56.13 # is a Fuze or Fuze+ a high-end player with complex software? 22.57.12 Nick suYin is now known as suYin`OFF (suYin@server1.bouncer4you.de) 22.57.18 # yes (by today standards) 22.57.27 # lebellium: They look more like an out of time middle ground 22.57.57 # f+ hardware is decent, software is fu**** as usuall 22.58.18 # Sony still sell middle groud player and probably don't seel millions units 22.58.21 # sell* 22.59.29 # I guess they calculate it as 'promotion' for online music purchase 23.00.18 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-237-21.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.00.50 # I feel like online music purchase didn't really happen. 23.01.20 # Online streaming or CDs. 23.02.04 # I mean for "most people" 23.05.24 # Didn't happen is probably too strong, it's better to say that it was transitory 23.05.35 # wodz: I just think they don't need to invest that much to keep a wide range of players. They all have the same feature and UI and maybe the fw simply share the same code? 23.06.01 # lebellium: you mean sony? 23.06.03 # yes 23.06.52 # maybe, but they still support like 3 different hw platforms IIRC 23.08.14 Join ZincAlloy1 [0] (~Adium@pD9EE922D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.09.50 Quit ZincAlloy (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.12.48 Nick byteframe__ is now known as byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) 23.26.16 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.28.17 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 39.0/20150618135210]) 23.30.33 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 23.31.01 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.34.14 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-75-106-221.dynamic.chello.pl) 23.35.09 Quit [Franklin] (Remote host closed the connection) 23.35.33 Quit wodz (Client Quit) 23.39.32 Join byteframe_ [0] (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) 23.41.06 Quit byteframe (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.41.12 Quit Galois (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 23.44.49 Quit byteframe_ (Quit: Deuces.) 23.52.45 # aren't a lot of the sony ones android?