--- Log for 27.06.115 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 months and 0 days ago 00.08.35 Quit uber (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 00.23.39 Join uber [0] (~uber@unaffiliated/uber) 00.32.52 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 00.35.28 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 00.40.41 Quit ender` (Quit: The sum of intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing.) 00.45.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.53.00 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 01.02.53 Quit y4n (Quit: only amiga makes it possible) 01.24.03 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 01.26.10 Quit williamtdr (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 01.26.28 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 39.0/20150624153222]) 01.27.07 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.28.56 Quit Markmaster (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) 01.50.55 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.52.22 # saratoga: It was the patch correcting the text viewer manual to reflect bookmark/settings storage location. 01.53.18 # <[Saint]> Ivoah: when you say that iTunes can't find your iPod, what type of iPod are you referring to? 01.53.23 # <[Saint]> A Classic perhaps? 01.54.10 # <[Saint]> If so, that would be entirely expected. 01.54.24 # <[Saint]> A Rockboxed Classic is for all intents and purposes no longer an iPod. 02.23.47 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 02.31.53 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 02.31.58 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 02.34.30 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.35.19 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053154071.adsl.alicedsl.de) 02.42.56 # [Saint]: An iPod 4g booted into the stock firmware 02.45.23 # <[Saint]> Hmmmm. Interesting. 02.46.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.54.53 # I can still access it through Finder just fine 02.55.24 # <[Saint]> Does iTunes see it in DIsk Mode 02.55.26 # <[Saint]> +? 02.55.39 # good idea, I'll try that 02.58.01 # [Saint]: Still says it can't read it :( 02.59.25 # <[Saint]> Interesting. 02.59.58 # <[Saint]> You said Finder, right, which is an OSX thing if I'm not mistaken? It should be freaking out and telling you that it doesn't support the device in this format at least. 03.00.17 # <[Saint]> and in turn offering a restore. 03.01.38 # [Saint]: No, iTunes on OSX supports FAT formatted iPods 03.01.50 # and it is offering to restore it 03.02.08 # <[Saint]> So it _does_ see the device... 03.02.09 # <[Saint]> >.> 03.02.13 # indeed 03.02.44 # <[Saint]> If it thinks you need to do a restore it isn;t going to be presenting you sync options. 03.03.24 # <[Saint]> Remember not to do a restore unless you have a wall wart for power, otherwise you'll get stuck. 03.03.54 # <[Saint]> it won't finish the restore until it touches a wall wart adapter. 03.04.10 # <[Saint]> USB from a host alone won't cut it. 03.04.27 # Restoring will wipe the ipod though and format it for HFS+ 03.04.48 # It should be able to read it, as I can clearly see everything from Finder 03.05.54 # <[Saint]> I'm sure it probably could read it. 03.06.09 # <[Saint]> But it isn;t going to present any of thos eoptions to you when it thinks you need to restore. 03.06.26 # Then why does it want me to restore it? 03.06.33 # <[Saint]> As long as it thinks you need to restore it will let you do precisely nothing but that 03.06.40 # <[Saint]> Dunno. 03.06.57 # It was working before (with rockbox) 03.07.29 # <[Saint]> But when it is in Rockbox, it isn't an iPod. 03.07.38 # <[Saint]> It's just a dumb generic removable storage volume. 03.08.04 # I mean it worked before in the default firmware while I had rockbox installed 03.09.13 # <[Saint]> I'm sure it did. 03.09.17 # <[Saint]> And now it doesn't. 03.09.26 # <[Saint]> And I don't know why, nor can I change that. 03.11.33 # <[Saint]> see http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore 03.11.55 # <[Saint]> that gives you a way out with any sufficiently *nix-like environment. 04.10.07 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-248-206.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 04.41.06 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 04.46.05 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 04.50.26 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 04.58.10 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 05.09.02 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 05.35.52 Join ssdclickofdeath [0] (~joshua@c-73-164-205-147.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 05.38.28 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.38.33 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.48.27 # I have a Sansa Fuze v2 running Rockbox 3.13. After disconnecting it from my computer, I got this panic screen. Image: https://slimgur.com/image/6X1 Now when I connect it to my computer the player displays "Bootloader USB Mode" on the screen. The lsusb shell command shows that the player is connected, but I don't see any drives to mount on my file manager. The latest stable version of the Rockbox utility doesn't recognize it e 05.53.55 # <[Saint]> You absolutely shouldn't be using the release builds of Rockbox at this stage. 05.54.26 # <[Saint]> And the Original Firmware is happy to supply you with a USB connection even if you are. 05.54.40 # <[Saint]> I highly suggest updating to the development build. 05.54.41 # @saint are you referring to me? 05.54.44 # <[Saint]> I am. 05.55.13 # How do I get it to connect so I can update it in the first place? 05.55.20 # <[Saint]> see above 05.55.56 # So... Hold on the left arrow key while booting? 05.56.24 # <[Saint]> I believe so, yes. Our fine manual explains this process. 05.57.05 Quit kiwicam (Remote host closed the connection) 05.57.41 # I booted into the original firmware and it seems to have connected. Think I should do a dosfsck? 05.57.49 # <[Saint]> No. 05.59.12 # Well... My MicroSD card shows up in the file manager, but not the main memory. Where should I go from here? 06.01.17 # <[Saint]> Ah. Hmmm. That's...odd. I would just format the internal storage with the original firmware myself and then replace the media, as an *fsck run isn't necessarily going to recover things exactly as you'd like it to assuming the filesystem is corrupt. 06.02.37 # <[Saint]> Note that I am only aware that such an option exists in the original firmware and not where it is located. 06.06.07 # <[Saint]> Unless of course this device happens to be the sole location of the media in question, which would be a Very Bad Idea (TM). 06.06.52 # When I turned on the player without connecting it to the computer, a text box appeared that said "FAT is corrupted. Please connect to PC to restore FAT." (I'm paraphrasing because I didn't have time to transcribe it.) 06.07.39 # By the way, all my music was on the player's main drive, but I keep backups on my computer. :) 06.08.22 # <[Saint]> Yeah, sweet. In this instance it is almost certainly better to just nuke everything and start fresh. 06.08.40 # <[Saint]> Definitely not faster, but it has a vastly higher rate of success. 06.09.07 # Will I have to mount the drive manually? 06.09.43 # <[Saint]> Perhaps there's a misunderstanding here. The original firmware is quite capable of formatting its own internal storage. 06.09.50 # <[Saint]> No host required. 06.10.53 # The player displays the above message, ("FAT is corrupted. Please connect to PC to restore FAT.") then reboots. I can't do anything with the firmware. 06.11.44 # <[Saint]> Interesting. 06.12.23 # <[Saint]> I suppose you will have to do this manually then. 06.13.15 # <[Saint]> That's odd, I have seen the filesystem get into some fairly interesting states before now but I don't ever recall the OF bitching like this and flatly refusing to boot. 06.18.12 Join Valley_Cat [0] (~Valley_Ca@c122-107-149-239.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au) 06.18.44 # I have the player running the OF and can see it in GParted. The program sees a 3.66 GiB "unallocated" partiton. Think I should format it with a MSDOS MBR and a FAT32 partition? 06.20.51 # <[Saint]> Seems logical. To be perfectly honest I don't recall ever doing this on these devices outside of the original firmware so I don't know what it may or may not expect outside of FAT32 06.24.18 # Okay, I'll try it now. 06.25.06 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 06.28.32 # Okay, now the stock firmware is running. It wrote all the folders and files it wants to be there to the newly-formatted disk. 06.30.30 # <[Saint]> Huzzah! OK. You can download a development build and extract it to the root of the device now if you wish (RbUtil is overkill for this since that's literally all it is doing anyway). 06.31.55 # <[Saint]> Unless of course you also wanted to generate .talk files. 06.32.05 # <[Saint]> In which case RbUtil would be useful. 06.32.16 # I don't need those, at least not now. 06.33.09 # Sweet. Rockbox is running now. I guess I can restore it now. Thanks. 06.34.12 # <[Saint]> FWIW - the original firmware doesn't need any of those folders to be there, you can delete them if you wish. 06.34.23 # <[Saint]> They'll be recreated if/when you ever reboot the original firmware. 06.34.34 # Thanks. 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I'm coming here for a bit of help. 23.19.58 # On clip zip, latest stable or dev build, clock plugin, I don't have the Counter Settings options 23.23.02 # I'm looking for a countdown timer counter with an audio alarm when time is up 23.27.08 Quit jecr (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.40.03 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: you around? 23.40.20 # yes 23.40.21 # <[Saint]> Ooop, nevermind. 23.40.41 # <[Saint]> Sorry, I parsed some backlog incorrectly. 23.41.24 # <[Saint]> I read it as you saying that the Rockbox fallback builds in official emCORE relases wouldn't mount, and I was like "...wut?" 23.41.36 # <[Saint]> Then I realized you meant emCORE 'proper'. 23.48.11 # in http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginClock it's written "Choose this option to change your counter settings. Here, you can choose to switch between count up and countdown modes, and specify a start time for countdown mode" 23.48.19 # but in the current builds I don't see this feature 23.48.48 # doesn't anybody know if the feature count up still exists? 23.48.52 # does* 23.49.08 # <[Saint]> I suspect the source does. 23.49.53 # unfortunately I suspect I can't read the source code 23.52.17 # <[Saint]> Is it some form of massive coincidence that some other guy game in and asked about that very same thing like ~20 minutes ago? 23.52.20 # <[Saint]> Or was that you? 23.53.28 # <[Saint]> I mean, we, nor that plugin, are that popular. So the odds of that are extreme. 23.53.48 # that was a french guy from a forum where I am too 23.55.28 # <[Saint]> Rocheboite. 23.55.41 # exactly :) 23.57.08 # [Saint]: you already got the same question here http://archive-org.com/page/3565453/2014-01-20/http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,43705.0.html 23.57.09 # :P 23.57.49 # <[Saint]> I wanna say that that plugin requires an RTC to be present. 23.57.58 # <[Saint]> Off the top of my head, I don't think the Zip has one. 23.58.05 # <[Saint]> So it is likely a manual error? 23.58.27 # All Sansa have a RTC 23.58.55 # <[Saint]> s/RTC to be present/RTC that can wake the device/