--- Log for 30.09.115 Server: sinisalo.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 13 days and 19 hours ago 00.17.25 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 00.34.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.34.34 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 00.36.10 Quit ender` (Quit: The other day Windows told me I might be a victim of software counterfeiting. Funny, I always thought I was a beneficiary.) 00.45.58 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.54.26 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 01.03.48 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com) 01.16.30 # [Franklin]: I wonder if it's possible to check if HID is enabled in the system settings and if not to turn it on at plugin startup, then back off on exit? 01.17.00 # If not it really not a big deal though if you think about it 01.18.27 # <[Saint]> I don't really understand why anyone would turn it off to begin with. 01.18.33 # <[Saint]> Or, why it's an option to. 01.18.50 # <[Saint]> Even if you don't use it, it's not like it gets in your way. 01.19.21 # fuze+ erroneous key presses 01.19.42 # I had it off, but thats just because, fuze+ 01.20.59 # the touchpad is so sensitive sometimes I can hover over a button and activate it, even with the sensitivity turned down 01.21.13 # <[Saint]> be less capacitive! 01.21.39 # * foolsh has a high capacity 01.21.56 Quit zoktar (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.21.57 # <[Saint]> for capacitance? 01.22.49 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: I suppose the plugin could modify global_settings 01.23.10 # <[Franklin]> though I'm not sure it would take effect 01.23.42 Join zoktar [0] (~zoktar@78-72-45-32-no186.tbcn.telia.com) 01.23.42 Quit zoktar (Changing host) 01.23.42 Join zoktar [0] (~zoktar@unaffiliated/zoktar) 01.23.52 # zug zug 01.25.24 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01.28.33 Quit zoktar (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.29.03 # <[Franklin]> foolsh: I think it would be useful to have the DAP change VID/PID's to better pretend to be a keyboard 01.29.21 # <[Franklin]> though those are currently #defined as constants 01.29.35 # <[Saint]> Noooooooooooope. 01.29.38 # Can that be done at the plugin level? I think they're hard code at the moment 01.29.42 # <[Saint]> We don't do that. 01.29.46 # <[Saint]> like, at all. 01.29.57 # * [Franklin] knows it's bad 01.30.08 # <[Saint]> It's not just bad. It's flatly not happening. 01.30.11 # <[Franklin]> and it probably won't make it into HEAD 01.30.24 # <[Franklin]> but I'll do it anyway and put it in a separate gerrit task 01.30.47 # <[Saint]> Using someone else's VID/PID is a bit of an asshole move. The real solution is to get our own. 01.31.01 # <[Franklin]> this is to better masquerade as a keyboard 01.31.17 # <[Saint]> Oh. I'm aware, it's just a dick move. 01.31.20 # <[Saint]> Someone paid for those. 01.31.23 # <[Saint]> Someone not us. 01.31.26 Join user890104_ [0] (Venci@unaffiliated/user890104) 01.31.42 # If people want it bad enough they'll have to do it themselves, but anyone who really wants it will be smart enough to do it to 01.31.49 # <[Saint]> right. 01.32.01 # <[Franklin]> it's not even really "hardcoded" 01.32.11 # <[Franklin]> a variable is initialized with the VID/PID values anyway 01.32.28 # I see 01.32.37 # Well keep it seperate 01.32.48 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.32.48 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.32.49 Quit n1cky[GB] (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.32.49 # <[Saint]> From our POV even re-using the OEMs VID/PID is a bit of a dick move. But at least that VID/PID was intended for the issues device. 01.32.51 # <[Franklin]> yeah 01.32.52 Nick user890104_ is now known as user890104 (Venci@unaffiliated/user890104) 01.32.59 # <[Saint]> *issued 01.33.00 Quit K1773R (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.33.06 # it's not even a gray area 01.33.10 Join zoktar [0] (~zoktar@78-72-45-32-no186.tbcn.telia.com) 01.33.10 Quit zoktar (Changing host) 01.33.10 Join zoktar [0] (~zoktar@unaffiliated/zoktar) 01.33.17 # <[Saint]> Mhm. 01.33.20 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.33.21 Quit funman (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.33.27 Join funman [0] (~fun@chui-pas.net) 01.33.42 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@89.141.51.203.dyn.user.ono.com) 01.33.47 # * foolsh thinks he feels a net split coming 01.33.48 Join n1cky[GB] [0] (~sielicki@nicky.io) 01.34.12 # <[Saint]> That's the reason why I used 0xabcd 0x1234 for VID/PID on the Classic for my MAC builds. 01.34.38 # <[Saint]> They're not issued, and it's enough to fool the hsot into thinking it's not an iPod. 01.34.46 # <[Saint]> Even then it's a bit questionable. 01.34.59 # <[Saint]> Well...a lot, really. 01.36.13 Join K1773R [0] (~K1773R@unaffiliated/k1773r) 01.36.48 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@178.174.137.46) 01.38.37 Quit Bray90820 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01.40.06 # That being said, I feel ducky has a place in rockbox, if we stay above the legal outlines of international law 01.40.23 # It would be nice to have it to automate things 01.40.31 # <[Franklin]> yeah 01.40.38 # <[Franklin]> it's got some legitimate uses 01.40.54 Join Bray90820 [0] (~Bray90820@173-17-46-117.client.mchsi.com) 01.41.10 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.41.14 # I once saw pamaury rewrite the remote_control.c for some poor sap who had a broken keyboard and was installing his OS 01.41.29 # ducky could have been handy at that moment 01.41.39 # <[Franklin]> and he came in #rockbox? 01.41.43 # yep 01.44.03 # * [Franklin] wonders if there are any "generic" USB VIDs/PIDs 01.45.25 # pony up the cash and you can have your very own 01.45.46 # <[Franklin]> FWEI Inc. USB Device 01.48.59 # <[Franklin]> $4000/year 01.49.26 # <[Franklin]> $5000 actually 01.53.53 # <[Franklin]> well, it works 01.55.20 # <[Saint]> We could get a block of a few hundred to use, where "we" == "Rockbox", for free. But that really requires the Swedes. 01.55.43 # <[Franklin]> wasn't there some project that was providing free ones? 01.55.52 # <[Saint]> You or I can't really go "Hey, I'm Rockbox. Gimme a block of USB IDs" 01.56.02 # <[Saint]> Yes, that's what I'm talking about. 01.56.09 # <[Franklin]> ah 01.56.13 # <[Franklin]> but not free 01.56.15 # <[Saint]> They won't issue singular IDs to Joe Average, though. 01.56.21 # <[Saint]> And it is free, yes. 01.56.37 # <[Franklin]> sorry, me misread 01.56.39 # <[Franklin]> lol 01.56.42 # <[Franklin]> *I misread 01.56.56 Quit djukon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.19.38 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 02.27.16 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-234-70.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.30.28 # <[Franklin]> hmm... apparently it's a bad idea to change global settings from a plugin 02.30.41 # <[Franklin]> enabling usb_hid from within the plugin doesn't appear to work 02.34.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.07.34 # [Franklin]: Oh well, no biggie 03.08.42 # <[Franklin]> the "bart simpson" payload appears to work :) 03.08.48 # <[Franklin]> https://github.com/hak5darren/USB-Rubber-Ducky/wiki/Payload---lock-your-computer-message 03.08.58 # <[Franklin]> just need to add STRING_DELAY 30 03.10.10 # So whats left function key and documentation? 03.10.58 # <[Franklin]> and variables, jumps, etc. 03.11.04 # <[Franklin]> but those are optional 03.18.25 # [Franklin]: I'll try to hammer out a manual entry tonight 03.18.58 # <[Franklin]> ok, thanks 03.18.58 # <[Franklin]> feel free to push, I don't mind merging good stuff ;) 03.19.17 # lol 03.25.00 # <[Franklin]> ok, function keys work 03.25.14 # <[Franklin]> the language should have all the features of duckyscript now 03.25.23 # Cool 03.26.00 # <[Franklin]> test, test, test! 03.26.28 Quit alexbobp (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.28.10 Join alexbobp [0] (~alex@capitalthree.pwnz.org) 03.28.15 # <[Franklin]> good night now 03.28.16 Quit [Franklin] (Quit: Lost terminal) 03.28.33 Nick alexbobp is now known as Guest27909 (~alex@capitalthree.pwnz.org) 03.31.27 Quit utrack (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 03.58.37 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 03.59.54 Join jonathan_ [0] (~jonathan@2601:400:8000:2669:4d51:b858:b079:fddb) 04.21.01 Quit jtdesigns01 (Remote host closed the connection) 04.21.01 Quit jonathan_ (Remote host closed the connection) 04.34.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.39.25 Join djukon [0] (transitor@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-mkdcbwmwzmydqjqq) 04.53.50 Join utrack [0] (~u@unaffiliated/utrack) 05.15.07 Quit Bray90820 () 05.21.06 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Vamoose.) 05.43.56 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.44.06 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.34.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.24.57 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 07.27.27 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 07.27.35 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@d83-183-134-99.cust.tele2.se) 07.27.47 Quit scorche` (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07.46.49 Join Bray90820 [0] (~Bray90820@2604:2d80:800a:8276:6046:e39b:b004:ea69) 07.50.04 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 07.50.04 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 07.50.16 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 07.50.20 Join amiconn [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.30.32 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.34.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.56.46 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.15.23 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.18.48 Nick dongs is now known as dongle (~dongs@bcas.tv) 10.25.24 Quit chxr (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 10.28.38 # [Franklin] (logs): not sure what you are trying to achieve with HID but I know quite a bit about it, so feel free to ask 10.29.39 # By the way, someone asked on the forum about the Fiio M3, which is a new, super small device from Fiio. It runs an ATJ2129 and a dev from Fiio told me it has "163K SRAM OC, 88K MASK ROM" so Rockbox wouldn't fit 10.30.17 # This is getting annoying, the number of recent devices with ultra small RAM is increasing. We should do something about it ! 10.32.50 Join chxr [0] (chxr@procasur.inc.cl) 10.34.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.36.33 Quit funman (Changing host) 10.36.33 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 10.49.40 Nick dongle is now known as dongs (~dongs@bcas.tv) 10.54.20 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 11.13.40 # pamaury: I see you picked up hwstub_server work. 11.13.50 # yeah, I did some cleanup and bugfix 11.14.22 # right now I'm coding the JZ interface, I went further in hwstub lib cleanup, it was messy with hwstub/tcp/jz. I will upload the work very soon I hope 11.15.26 # cool 11.16.10 # I will slightly tweak hwstub_server to be able to handle any kind of hwstub, at the moment it is hardcoded with VID:PID which is bad 11.16.36 # yeah, it was just POC code 11.23.37 # wodz: did you see my comment about Fiio M3 and ATJ2129 ? 11.23.49 # no 11.24.36 # ok, see now. 11.24.54 # So basically my assumption about this line of SoCs was correct 11.25.03 # I don't know how close the ATJ2127 and the ATJ2129 are but I got confirmation about the latter 11.25.10 # yeah 11.27.02 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.28.16 # This trend is weird 11.28.26 # I wonder if we should do something about 11.29.09 # rockbox lite? 11.29.34 # maybe 11.29.42 # wodz: by the way, luaprompt is awesome ;) 11.30.12 # pamaury: nice you like it :-) 11.32.54 # Hum, I have a weird freeze in qeditor because of libusb_unref_device :( 11.56.38 Quit petur (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.57.15 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.58.24 Quit pamaury (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 11.59.32 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.04.34 Quit pamaury (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 12.05.42 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.12.14 Quit pamaury (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 12.13.21 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.24.34 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.32.51 Quit alucryd (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 12.34.17 Join alucryd [0] (~quassel@archlinux/developer/alucryd) 12.34.20 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12.34.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.38.27 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 13.26.12 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@p57B95428.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.39.45 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 13.39.46 Quit ZincAlloy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.55.25 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.57.28 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-113-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 13.57.28 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 13.57.28 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.57.28 Quit petur (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.03.01 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 14.03.42 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9FB78F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.15.53 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 14.34.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.38.10 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.53.23 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC10153.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.55.32 Nick n1cky[GB] is now known as n1cky (~sielicki@nicky.io) 14.55.58 Join einhirn_ [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 14.57.25 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.16.23 Quit pamaury (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 15.17.32 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.00.34 Quit pamaury (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 16.01.41 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.12.37 Join b0hoon [0] (~quassel@62.87.184.82) 16.13.58 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. 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