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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 20.12.25 Join quaz0r [0] (quaz@c-67-183-243-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 20.14.22 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20.22.23 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@77.117.72.246.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 20.23.53 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.30.35 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-75-106-221.dynamic.chello.pl) 20.33.33 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 20.34.10 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@124.127.67.58) 20.41.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.52.39 Join Reason101 [0] (~tron@85.211.6.138) 20.53.18 # Hi l'd like to make a press enquiry please, is there an admin l could speak to, to get a direct email contact? 20.59.38 # regarding what subject? 21.02.17 # hi, it's to do with the Rockbox Project OS 21.02.33 # that's a bit broad ;) 21.02.59 # l'd like some content for my website, so l'm approaching different OSes etc., to fill in my survey so l can post the info up on my site, which will be about OSes and IT enterprise software. 21.03.15 # so far, it is sounding like you might be best off sending an email to the dev mailing list 21.03.18 # I hope to also tackle other issues e.g. about the environment but that's not relevant here. 21.03.45 # No way to get a direct contact? I don't mind a gmail addy. 21.04.10 # a direct contact to whom? :) 21.04.27 # contacting a group sounds the best approach for these things 21.04.28 # hmm, a PR guy from the Company. 21.04.38 # this isnt a company 21.04.47 # it's a phrase off Aliens 21.04.47 # no PR people 21.05.12 # but basically l'm trying to track down about 300 sources so it's a bit hard to keep track of mailing lists 21.05.19 # but ... if you insist ... 21.05.33 # unless there is a volunteer, that sounds to be your best option... 21.05.40 # only option, even 21.06.35 Nick suYin`OFF is now known as suYin (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 21.08.36 # OK i've subscribed to the mailing list. I'm not sure how mailing lists work anymore. 21.08.49 # Can i contribute to the mailing list directly from my own inbox? 21.08.57 # @ scorche 21.09.15 # yes - you can send an email to the list address 21.11.32 # ah thanks 21.15.32 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.42.49 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-86-49-15-121.net.upcbroadband.cz) 22.02.19 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 22.06.18 Nick suYin is now known as suYin`OFF (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 22.12.51 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 22.33.13 # <[Saint]> Reason101: what is it you want to know precisely? 22.33.36 # <[Saint]> I recall seeing you the other day, with the same topic, in another channel, and finding out that emCORE didn;t fit the bill you were looking for at all. 22.34.28 # <[Saint]> There's no real need to take this to the mailing list, I pretty much guarantee most if not all of your queries can be handled here if you were to stop being overly broad in your questions. :) 22.35.14 # <[Saint]> So, what is it you actually want to know Reason101? 22.36.24 # <[Saint]> To me, taking this to the mailing list is a bit of an overkill when there's pretty much constantly at least 2 or 3 people here that could field your queries directly. 22.38.01 # <[Saint]> (for context - I'm not just "some random guy" but a volunteer, moderator/staffer, Rockbox veteran of ~8 years, and a "Rockbox Expert") 22.39.32 # <[Saint]> also, contributor - as is my main man scorche|1h above (as well as all the other mentioned titles), and so are several others here currently active or expected to be active. 22.41.06 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 22.44.23 # for general OS stuff, this might be helpful as well: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxKernel 22.44.51 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxArchitecture 22.46.10 # <[Saint]> ...I think he died. 22.47.07 # meh - IRC can be asynchronous 22.57.27 # hi saint 22.57.35 # am i still in the room? 22.57.51 # <[Saint]> You are indeed. 22.58.00 # Thanks. 22.58.40 # I want to make a site about OSes and other IT enterprise software, so l wanted to know if you guys could fill in a survey, l could then add it to my site as content. 22.59.50 # <[Saint]> I think that level of interaction is possibly asking a bit too much to be honest. 23.00.07 # <[Saint]> But we'll be happy to answer any reasonable questions posed. 23.01.15 # ah well, it is all designed to be in the survey format :( 23.01.37 # Otherwise it would be hard for me to keep track of 200+ interviewees. 23.01.57 # On the bright side, the survey has parts where you can promote your services (all for free of course). 23.02.07 # However, l'll most definitely understand if you cba. 23.02.11 # :D 23.02.20 # <[Saint]> The problem with that, as I see it, is that there's absolutely nothing stopping someone on the ML who doesn't have a clue about the subject matter from feeding you blatant (even if well meaning) bullshit. 23.02.32 # correct 23.02.53 # That's why l wanted a direct contact, you see, somebody official. 23.03.05 # plus mailing lists are all over the place. 23.03.44 # [Saint] are you on the project? 23.04.02 # <[Saint]> I am. 23.05.00 # Ah okay. But you're not really available for interview. 23.06.43 # <[Saint]> I am. However I'm entirely unwilling to commit to anything at this point due to the vagary and lack of detail regarding what would be expected of any participants. 23.06.57 # To be honest we don't have 'someone official'. We used to have steering committee but thats for different purpose 23.07.40 # okay :D 23.07.43 # <[Saint]> Also, yes. Anyone who fits the bill you seem to be aiming for has publicly stepped out of the project in any official capacity. 23.07.46 # We're also not IT enterprise software :) 23.07.52 # <[Saint]> That too. 23.08.00 # yep but Rockbox is some sort of OS, right? 23.08.03 # rockbox *works* 23.08.09 # So it's not enterprise 23.08.33 # <[Saint]> To be perfectly honest - the best way of describing what Rockbox is, is "By developers, for developers, and if the general public gets a kick out of it, that's great, but no one really cares" 23.08.47 # Define OS 23.08.55 # <[Saint]> It's a holistic hobby project, basically. 23.08.59 # <[Saint]> It's not a product. 23.09.03 # My idea was to expand beyond actual productivity OSes to any and all OSes l came across. For example, Rockbox is for the iPod. So, if some Korean tech company is setting out in life creating their own media player, they might look your details up and do a deal with you, right? 23.09.10 # <[Saint]> We really couldn;t care if the general public uses it at all. 23.09.17 # <[Saint]> Nor could anyone care for marking it. 23.09.24 # <[Saint]> *Marketing 23.09.38 # no worries. 23.10.31 # <[Saint]> And, Rockbox is for a _lot_ more than the iPod(s). 23.10.33 # <[Saint]> FWIW. 23.11.10 # well there you go, that's what i want my site to be about, for you to tell ppl that 23.11.13 # <[Saint]> It runs of a metric craptonne of architectures and platforms. 23.11.30 # my survey asks about what architectures it runs on, etc. 23.11.33 # <[Saint]> I think our site does a pretty good job of telling people that to be honest. 23.11.43 # nice one :) 23.11.52 # <[Saint]> Just being honest. 23.12.16 # No that's fine. 23.13.15 # I'm only being moderately resilient here because l've only about 15 more OSes that don't give out email addresses, to chase up. 23.13.27 # anyway, l probably should go 23.13.41 # i won't bother emailing the mailing list now that you've explained things. 23.14.16 # bye :D 23.14.29 # <[Saint]> The bulk of it is basically that I'm not sure who could offer you what that isn;t already freely public information. 23.15.27 # i'm 90% after publicly available info anyway (but it gets painstaking and requires a survey when there's 200+ ppl to interview). The other 10% is questions like: "What other services do you offer, commercial or otherwise". 23.16.32 # I know, l'll give you my website URL, then you can perhaps somewhere down the line drop me a line once the site is up and running 23.17.00 # reason.works <---- my site. Very basic right now. Will get professional design once l have data to showcase. 23.17.25 # <[Saint]> Your contact information is accessible there, one posits? 23.17.41 # ah no, i'll PM my email 23.17.58 # <[Saint]> Thanks. 23.18.00 # ok :D 23.18.09 # see you later, i have a few other secretive OSes to round up 23.18.16 # have fun! 23.18.20 Part Reason101 ("Leaving") 23.18.46 # <[Saint]> Poor guy. I feel kinda bad for him. 23.19.02 # <[Saint]> Rockbox doesn't really suit his stated goals very well at all. 23.20.04 # <[Saint]> Oh dear. Just looked at the site. 23.22.01 # <[Saint]> My suspicion from that would be that s|he's very young, or perhaps just slightly naive and/or lacking the technical ability to put behind her/his good intentions. 23.24.45 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.27.04 # <[Saint]> hahahahahah, reverse image searching the site banner for shits and giggles; 23.27.04 # <[Saint]> header_banner.jpg - Pages that include matching images 23.27.04 # <[Saint]> GayPsychicOnline - gaypsychiconline.com/ 23.27.48 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0/20160118143821]) 23.51.15 Quit ender` (Quit: Is there like a way to put a compiler in "Just trust me on that one" mode?)