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How is opus support now ? 20.24.27 # I can't say for Opus particularly. Just check here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges 20.26.15 # 2014-07-13: Further optimize Opus 20.26.40 # oh, improved battery life on fuzev2 20.26.45 # great :D 20.28.07 # lebellium: do you know why there hasn't been any release since then ? if dailies are stable, what is preventing a release now ? 20.29.00 # probably because most devs are too busy or no longer interested in Rockbox 20.29.33 # should rather ask a knowledgeable person like gevaerts 20.30.29 # lebellium: really ? the project seems quite active 20.30.32 # still 20.31.16 # is the project slowing down overall ? 20.31.23 # for sure 20.31.32 # pamaury keeps the illusion it's still alive :D 20.32.03 # yeah we should do a release :-s 20.32.57 # I hope the project still goes on because there are some interesting ports in the todo list 20.33.12 # notably the Zen :p 20.33.23 # the Zen ? 20.33.42 # pamaury: I like the Creative Zen 20.34.04 # the original from 2007? 20.34.04 # simple, lightweight, decent amount of buttons, SD card slot 20.34.20 # ah yeah, it's quite an old player though 20.35.06 # I don't really look at the date of release 20.35.44 # the major problem is that you can't buy new ones and the batteries are slowly dying 20.36.02 # also the port has its share of bugs 20.36.12 # I remember I had one and the only thing it lacked was a decent firmware 20.36.59 # @all : what is your favorite rockbox device ? 20.37.55 # don't come uo with this debate! [Saint] will try again to claim the iPod are the best... \o/ 20.37.58 # up* 20.38.27 # lebellium: lol I can't stand iThings :p 20.39.00 # Clip+ and Zip are probably among the most popular Rockbox targets 20.39.32 # my personal preference goes for devices with memory expansion and lots of hardware buttons 20.40.15 # When my Fuze v2 dies I'm going to try the HiFiThings maybe 20.40.27 # pamaury: do you have time to commit the volume fix this weekend? 20.40.49 # lebellium: yeah I will to it when I'm back home tonight, I'm sorry I was super busy this week 20.40.50 # (if I can't find a Zen) 20.41.12 # * pamaury goes back home 20.41.26 # oh I still have a question 20.41.47 # do you plan to keep the policy of not supporting other fs than FAT ? 20.43.05 # I guess if someone did all the work to support another fs, with the possibility to disable it, it would probably not have a very strong opposition, but that's a lot of work. which FS are you thinking about ? 20.44.57 # pamaury: no particular one, but I wonder what would happen if MS starts patent trolling on FAT 20.45.36 # I really doubt they will, the same cannot be said about exFAT though 20.46.16 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 20.51.36 # anyone using a Sansa e200 Series here ? 20.54.39 # using, no 20.54.46 # but I have one :) 20.55.34 # lebellium: have you ever noticed a noise in your earplugs when loading a song before the player started to play it ? 20.55.52 # like a "bzzzz" noise 20.56.28 # I don't know if it's firmware or hardware-related 20.56.30 # I don't remember if it's on this sansa or another one, but I already heard this kind of sound 20.56.54 # I could check but I'd probably have to charge the battery first 20.58.03 # lebellium: on my e250 it was systematic, a bzzz noise when the player was loading the song, before it started and it generally continued a bit at the beginning of the song 20.58.04 # oh! It still has 80% battery although I haven't charged it for months! 20.59.04 # like if taking data from the microSD and putting it into ram was generating some noise in the jack output 20.59.33 # maybe that's an inaccurate interpretation but that's how it sounded /o\ 21.00.06 # cc_: I confirm it's plenty of noise. I use Westone UM3x which are quite sensitive 21.01.07 # whoauh, it's worse than a 56k modem 21.01.37 # lebellium: is it a hardware or a software problem ? 21.02.00 # I'm not a dev but sounds like a hardware issue to me 21.03.04 # that's the problem with some old models 21.03.15 # crappy output and CPU noise 21.04.26 # lebellium: yeah :/ 21.05.20 # lebellium: hey those earplug look very similar to mine :D 21.05.47 # i've got some shure se215 21.07.32 # lebellium: do you think this problem could still be bypassed with a software hack ? 21.09.33 # I don't think so. If something could be done, if would probably already have been done before. But I let the final word to the devs here 21.09.41 # it* 21.12.37 Join FSanches [0] (~felipe@2804:14c:37:268b:7cd8:66a1:23ad:a9b7) 21.12.44 Join Mihail [0] (252d4a28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.45.74.40) 21.13.29 # original firmware on e200 have same issue? 21.14.08 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.14.08 # Mihail: I don't remember, I don't even know if I have tested the original firmware on this model before flashing it :/ 21.15.37 # like : first boot and then "no need to test, I know it's crap, let's flash rockbox *now*" 21.15.54 # Mihail: I just checked with the OF. it's the same... 21.16.27 Join Strife89|laptop [0] (~Strife89@2602:306:bce1:8c20:5a94:6bff:fe41:c78) 21.19.39 # probably bypassing mixer stage (as I do for AMSv2) can help, but I no sure if it possible for e200 21.20.27 Join girafe [0] (~girafe@AGrenoble-651-1-429-227.w90-52.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.21.59 # many devices don't have mixer stage actually if they use an internal dac, I don't rememer what the e200 uses 21.22.28 Quit krnlyng (Quit: huiiiiii) 21.24.52 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@178.112.158.197.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 21.25.29 # e200 uses PP which only has input audio mixer 21.31.38 # I check datasheet for AS3514 and AS3525 - both have mixer stage, but bypass impossible on it :( 21.34.41 # indeed, but I would say this: if you are at the point where mixer bypass reduces noise, your player is already pretty good, because lots of player suffer from other digital noises 21.38.24 # probably you right, but mixer have many analog inputs and possibly one from it have receive EMI 21.40.53 # that's a good point, but most mixers allow you to mute inputs 21.41.51 Nick suYin`OFF is now known as suYin (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 21.43.48 Quit rela_ (Quit: Leaving) 21.44.02 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 21.46.15 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 21.51.23 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 21.58.43 # why we enable both line out and headphone for e200? It have two jack for output? 21.59.39 # only on jack 21.59.47 # but it has line-out through the pin port 21.59.52 # one* 22.04.40 Quit FSanches (Quit: Leaving.) 22.07.14 # lebellium: can you check g#1255 just to make sure it fixes both issues before I commit ? 22.07.16 # 3Gerrit review #1255 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1255 : 3as3514: fix bug in volume management on AS3543 targets which are not AS3525v2 by Amaury Pouly 22.07.49 # sure 22.16.03 Quit Bray90820 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.17.56 Join Bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@173-17-46-117.client.mchsi.com) 22.19.21 Join MightyBora [0] (5ee3227b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.227.34.123) 22.20.57 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-45-72-25.hsd1.de.comcast.net) 22.22.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.23.11 Join Link8 [0] (~me@5ED3F691.cm-7-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 22.23.12 Quit Bray90820 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.26.17 # Hey guys, it's my first time here, I was given a free iPod 6.5g with a broken screen. Now after repairing the screen, it looks like the previous user had installed Rockbox on this. The 'problem' is that it is an old version of Rockbox (644b83e - 120701) and of emCORE (v0.2.3 r859). The old version of emCORE means that there is nothing left of the original firmware. 22.27.45 # I wasn't expecting to have Rockbox on there and I'm not sure I need it. I read on the forum that there is a dual boot method in development. I might want to try that. But not too sure which step I should take first. Would it be easier to upgrade emCORE or Rockbox. Or would it be easier to restore the original apple firmware? (if possible?!) 22.28.54 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.29.46 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@83.175.90.24) 22.29.50 Quit Mihail (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.30.02 Join Bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@173-17-46-117.client.mchsi.com) 22.30.30 # Of course, not having done the initial install of Rockbox put me in some disadvantage as I am pretty much a noob and never worked with Rockbox before 22.35.31 Quit Link8 (Remote host closed the connection) 22.44.40 # pamaury: I confirm it fixes both issues. There is still a minor "plop" issue at startup and between -40dB to -41dB which wasn't there before g#1089 was commited but we can keep that for later :) 22.44.42 # 3Gerrit review #1089 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1089 : 3Bypass the AS3543 audio mixer at higher volumes. by Mihail Zenkov 22.45.54 # I guess it's because of the mixer switching 22.47.05 # switching between what? 22.48.32 # on and off 22.48.50 # the code disables the mixer above -40dB to reduce noise 22.48.56 # aaaah 22.49.09 # it's not surprising you can hear it 22.49.29 # maybe this can be fixed if the chip has a zero-cross feature 22.52.06 # hum, maybe it's just because of the order in which things are written 22.53.37 # lebellium: could you try another patch for me, see if this pop at -40dB disappears ? 22.53.46 # sure 22.55.33 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26357.15.html 22.55.39 # don't know if that helps 22.56.42 # lebellium: g#1255 (I pushed another version) 22.56.43 # 3Gerrit review #1255 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1255 : 3as3514: fix bug in volume management on AS3543 targets which are not AS3525v2 by Amaury Pouly 23.02.45 # I'm about to log off. I've posted my question above in the Installation / Removal -> Rockbox Utility subforum, if someone wants to take a look. (Post still waiting for approval for the moment though) 23.02.49 # Bye! 23.05.15 Join Mihail [0] (252d4a28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.45.74.40) 23.05.17 # pamaury: nope, it doesn't help 23.06.18 # but it help for clip zip 23.06.38 # there was a plop on clip zip? 23.06.45 # never noticed that 23.07.54 # Mihail: you just tested this patch ? 23.08.06 # damn, I just revert it on gerrit ^^ 23.08.21 # oh 23.08.28 # there is the same plop on clip zip 23.08.33 # my mistake 23.08.35 # yes, plop mostly gone 23.08.42 # it should exists on the zip, it's the same code 23.08.49 # ok so it was a good idea 23.09.10 # revert back again, I'll try it on Clip Zip :D 23.09.20 # have you tried both direction (-40->-41 and -41->-40) ? 23.09.22 # sure, wait a sec 23.09.48 # done: g#1255 23.09.49 # 3Gerrit review #1255 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1255 : 3as3514: fix bug in volume management on AS3543 targets which are not AS3525v2 by Amaury Pouly 23.10.15 # Mihail: do you know what AUDIOSET1_DAC_GAIN_on does ? 23.11.27 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 23.13.03 # apparently there is a "dac gain stage" but the datasheet doesn't say much and the code sometimes sets it on and off 23.13.17 # AS3543 have two analog gain in dac path 23.13.29 # one before mixer 23.14.02 # we disable it when we don't use mixer 23.14.30 Quit MightyBora (Quit: Page closed) 23.14.59 # hum, you think AUDIOSET1_DAC_GAIN_on disable the volume control on the DAC->mixer path ? Why would such a bit exists ? 23.15.42 # oh no I see, AUDIOSET1_DAC_GAIN_on just enables the DAC input of the mixer 23.15.57 # I think 23.16.03 # look at four page in datasheet to point n19/n22 23.16.21 Quit Strife89|laptop (Quit: Leaving) 23.16.44 # I'm looking at it and I don't see the same thing as you apparently :) 23.17.50 # we have mute block > volume control > mixer > limiter 23.18.10 # yes 23.18.43 # I think AUDIOSET1_DAC_GAIN_on disable volume control block 23.19.48 # ok, let's try something 23.20.25 # lebellium: Mihail: can you try the new patch at g#1255 ? 23.20.26 # 3Gerrit review #1255 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1255 : 3as3514: fix bug in volume management on AS3543 targets which are not AS3525v2 by Amaury Pouly 23.22.04 Quit krnlyng (Quit: huiiiiii) 23.22.45 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 23.23.42 # I'm not sure it will be enough, we might to further shuffle things around more 23.24.40 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@178.112.158.197.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 23.29.27 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 23.32.13 # test again set 6 and again set 5 - both still have problem, it dependent on testing material, probably zero cross problem as you mention 23.34.00 # so you can still hear a very small pop ? 23.34.07 # I still have a last idea, give me 5min 23.34.52 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 23.37.04 # it sound like very short sound breakup/skip 23.38.05 # does it happen when switch from -40dB to -41dB or from -41dB to -40dB ? 23.38.43 # I confirm sets 5 and 6 don't fix the issue on YP-R0 and Clip Zip. 23.38.48 # both directions 23.38.55 # 40 to 41 and 41 to 40 23.39.05 # not the same sound 23.39.10 # it can be a 2 sounds music 23.39.12 # :D 23.39.48 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 23.40.05 # ok give me 5min to come up with a new patch, I need to think 23.40.29 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-45-72-25.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 23.41.51 Join alexweis_ [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-45-72-25.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 23.43.16 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.44.38 # hum USB is still crapy on Clip Zip 23.44.46 # I'm obliged to use the OF to connect :( 23.45.06 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.45.22 # Mihail: lebellium: try new version 23.46.35 # ok 23.50.53 Quit alexweis_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.51.10 # I record it (set 5) with 200hz test signal: http://knk.square7.ch/plop.flac 23.51.27 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-45-72-25.hsd1.de.comcast.net) 23.51.58 # Set 7 doesn't help on R0 23.52.51 Quit alexweissman (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.53.22 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-45-72-25.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 23.53.22 Quit alexweissman (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.53.26 # hum, maybe nothing can be done and the mux switch makes noise 23.54.18 # at least patches 5 and 6 are better than 4 right ? You said it helped on the Zip ? 23.55.06 # Patch 5 doesn't help compared to no patch on Clip Zip 23.56.17 # wait few minutes, I try record it and compare