--- Log for 14.02.116 Server: sinisalo.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 15 hours ago 00.11.24 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.12.01 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-85-190.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 00.19.29 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.20.45 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 00.22.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.31.53 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.36.24 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.37.03 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-85-190.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 00.39.53 Quit rela (Quit: Leaving) 00.46.31 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0/20160208194709]) 00.47.06 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@77.117.75.230.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 00.56.36 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 01.45.54 Quit __builtin (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01.49.08 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 02.14.59 Join __builtin [0] (~me@unaffiliated/franklin) 02.22.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.02.00 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 03.11.06 Quit ender` (Quit: I used to build time machines when I was older...) 03.18.52 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 03.39.45 Quit utack (Remote host closed the connection) 04.05.07 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.22.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.28.56 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@77.117.75.230.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 04.35.38 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@178.174.137.46) 05.09.04 Nick zz_HazWard is now known as HazWard (~HazWard@159.203.28.215) 05.15.49 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.17.22 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 1.2) 05.23.24 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.27.09 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.28.37 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.43.43 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@c-50-129-174-2.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.43.43 Quit tchan (Changing host) 05.43.43 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 05.51.47 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 05.54.27 Quit scorche` (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 05.56.39 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.57.50 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@119.125.68.55) 06.00.32 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 06.08.14 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.09.41 Nick HazWard is now known as zz_HazWard (~HazWard@159.203.28.215) 06.19.29 Quit scorche (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.19.32 Quit Smx (Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite!) 06.20.30 Join Smx [0] (Elite8556@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-rcrfoljuvojbapoo) 06.22.37 Quit sparetire (Quit: sparetire) 06.22.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.47.40 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 08.22.46 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 10.10.26 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.14.21 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@d83-183-134-99.cust.tele2.se) 10.22.49 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 10.41.27 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 10.55.28 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.57.54 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 12.19.24 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.22.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.28.23 Join krnlyng_ [0] (~liar@83.175.90.24) 12.29.45 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12.45.40 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-179-187.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 12.49.08 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 13.14.52 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.15.24 Quit Slasheri (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 13.19.13 Join Slasheri [0] (miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 13.28.43 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@14.20.103.220) 13.50.51 # /home/ubuntu/rockbox/apps/plugins/infones/InfoNES_System_Rockbox.c:331: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'fb_data' from type 'WORD' 13.50.55 # what could that mean? 13.59.14 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.02.45 # lebellium: that means old code 14.03.08 # fb_data used to be a scalar type (unsigned short) but is now a structure iirc 14.03.42 # but #g946 was updated recently! 14.03.44 # 3Gerrit review #946 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/946 : 3InfoNES - FS#2911 - NES Emulator for Color Targets (WIP) by Sebastian Leonhardt 14.04.03 Part autogen 14.05.20 Join mustkillmachine [0] (~mustkillm@cpe-45-50-224-231.socal.res.rr.com) 14.05.51 # let me check the code 14.05.59 # it might depend on the target 14.06.29 # It's on the YP-R0 apparently not supported (I added keymapping myself) 14.07.54 # ok, so 1) this is incorrect code (assumption that fb_data is a scalar) 2) it will still compile on targets with LCD_DEPTH!=24, which is basically everything except ZEN and YP-R0/1 and sdl 14.10.03 # thanks for the analysis 14.11.31 # could you comment the patch for the record? (I can't myself because of the real name policy... ) 14.12.05 # ok 14.13.50 # Is it worth buying a SanDisk Sansa Fuze+ does rockbox work on it, I see it on the Unstable ports does that mean that it doesn't work. 14.14.06 # it does work 14.14.51 # I don't remember why it's still listed under unstable 14.15.41 # lebellium: thank thank you so much 14.15.53 # I just hope you like touchpads 14.16.00 # I hate them :) 14.17.44 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@89.141.48.137.dyn.user.ono.com) 14.18.35 # oh and can I put a 256GB Micro SD SDXC in a Sansa Fuze+ 14.18.46 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9FB7949.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.19.09 # once reformated in FAT32 instead of default ex-FAT, probably 14.19.30 # is that hard to do 14.19.36 # no 14.19.38 # just google it 14.19.53 # of thank for your help 14.22.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.48.36 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 14.49.45 Join fs-bluebot_ [0] (~fs-bluebo@x4d098278.dyn.telefonica.de) 14.51.44 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.52.15 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 14.58.16 Join sparetire [0] (~sparetire@unaffiliated/sparetire) 14.58.31 Quit mustkillmachine (Quit: Leaving) 15.35.08 Nick suYin`OFF is now known as suYin (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 15.47.10 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 16.09.30 Nick mwfc_ is now known as mwfc (~mwfc@hephaestus.mwfc.info) 16.18.54 Join utack [0] (~utack@2a02:810a:83c0:9394:d63d:7eff:fedb:b2eb) 16.22.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.30.22 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@d83-183-134-99.cust.tele2.se) 17.56.17 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 17.58.34 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 18.04.23 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-177-191.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) 18.04.23 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 18.04.23 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 18.07.04 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.07.14 Quit Neffi (Remote host closed the connection) 18.08.30 Join Neffi [0] (~Neffi@nymeria.neffi.net) 18.20.49 Join tMH [0] (~tmh@rootshell.ru) 18.22.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.24.40 Join Link8 [0] (~me@5ED3F691.cm-7-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 18.30.52 # so, rockbox project is somewhat suspended? latest release is 3.13 from 2013-03-05... 18.31.15 # heck, no stable support for Cowon D2.. :( 18.32.11 # no release doesn't mean no work, although it is true we have far less developers 18.32.41 # support for targets depends on devs, no one is working on the D2, so we don't have stable support 18.33.33 # as far I am old D2 user I still hope that someone will hack its firmware (2.57 or 2.59), to remove db limits for files/folders count. 18.34.00 # installed 128gb card , but these moronic limits won't allow me to use all card's space.. 18.34.52 # sorry for speaking about D2 on this channel, but I hoped to speak to someone ho has a knowledge about whole D2 firmware stuff.. 18.34.57 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.35.00 # ho=who 18.36.21 # pamaury: btw, what is / who is those "devs", you're talking about ? 18.36.44 # what is/are/who is/are those "Devs" - you mean ppl who are have contact to Cowon or tools? 18.37.15 # devs are people like me, doing this on their spare time, with little or no documentation 18.37.32 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@d83-183-134-99.cust.tele2.se) 18.39.18 # <[Saint]> tMH: Hope that "Mr. Someone" will complete the work are fairly optimistic. 18.39.38 # <[Saint]> At this point, the likely candidate to do so is you, as you are actually personally invested in it. 18.39.42 # you have to understand that Cowon (or any other manufacturer for that matter) does not give us any help/doc/tools 18.40.48 # <[Saint]> working from leaked datasheets (if you're fairly lucky) for vaguely similar silicon, and disassembly. 18.41.18 # <[Saint]> of which pamaury seems to be more than somewhat proficient in the latter aspect. 18.42.23 # <[Saint]> but, yeah - you basically have to assume that if it isn;t you that is going to do it that it won't get done. 18.59.05 # [Saint] - you know.. discovering how D2 works with files/folders I found knowlege - easy to understand - that D2 using some database for those... This DB has a limit for 4000 files yet 400 folder at max. These limits were set when D2 itself has max 32gb onboard, yet sdcard were max 32gb. Now we have 64, 128, mb 256gb sdcard in future and I wonder - is it possible to do reverse engineering on those firmware sets to remove mentioned limits 18.59.21 # [Saint] - or increase them to "human" values, 40000 files with 4000 folders;) 19.00.10 # <[Saint]> It isn't possible if no one is going to do the work required to make it so. 19.00.32 # [Saint] - OR, what is more important - to _remove_ DB feature at all. Why Cowon implemented this DATABASE I don't understand - its filesystem has FILE ALOOCATION TABLE, and SDcard of 128gb can be formatted in FAT32 mode, who the heck needs this DB at all? 19.00.51 # ALLOCATION even 19.01.30 # I met this forum : http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,10164.15.html?PHPSESSID=couu1kb4hukm44j0nn1nnrruu4 19.01.55 # yes, posts are old , 8-9 years ago, but ppl there have tried to get formware disassembled.... 19.02.25 # to make rockbox firmware, of course 19.08.11 # so, contacting Cowon is futile at all ? 19.08.52 # yes. They wouldn't even remember they released the D2 years ago :) 19.08.52 # heck, they already stoppped releasing D2 long time ago, why the heck they won't give out firmware sources for this one ?:/// 19.09.42 # this is why we need North Korea;)) 19.13.16 # cowon systems, established april 1995. heck, I went to irc a year ago.. 19.13.32 # year before 19.13.51 # I found their HQ! 19.13.52 # http://eng.cowon.net/about/about_4.php 19.13.55 # ;) 19.29.58 Quit Link8 (Remote host closed the connection) 19.35.07 # <[Saint]> errr...good work detective. Problem solved. 19.35.28 # not yet, I'm writing email to some sales contact in Cowon:) 19.36.47 # <[Saint]> It's somewhat heartbreaking to know where this will lead, but, hey - trying won't kill you. 19.36.50 # waste of time 19.37.08 # imagine if this man will give me skype contact ;) 19.37.31 # to one of those D2 firmware developers!:) 19.37.41 # of one, even 19.37.49 # there are no D2 developers 19.37.54 # anymore 19.37.57 # hm.. 19.38.14 # <[Saint]> they're just _not_ going to give you the firmware source. 19.38.16 # but they developed somewhat similar firmware for D20, M2.. 19.38.41 # <[Saint]> that's largely meaningless. you're still not getting it. 19.38.44 # main engine is the same, only skins and new options are changed.. 19.39.00 # [Saint] - ok, trying is not torturing:) 19.39.08 # * tMH will wait. 19.40.06 # you'd better learn developing and become the missing D2 dev 19.40.39 # <[Saint]> In all honestly, the hardware is shit, even by ancient standards. 19.41.22 # it was popular due to the SD slot 19.50.34 Join Neffi_ [0] (~Neffi@visenya.neffi.net) 19.52.01 Quit Neffi (Remote host closed the connection) 19.52.06 Nick Neffi_ is now known as Neffi (~Neffi@visenya.neffi.net) 20.22.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.24.32 # gonna ask again, if someone knows how to run these audio decoder benchmarks on Android, that would be nice. 20.27.19 # <[Saint]> you mean with Rockbox, or, in general? 20.29.09 # <[Saint]> utack: ? 20.41.33 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20.45.42 # [Saint] i think someone in here ran some tests, i don't remember if it was with the rockbox app specifically 20.45.54 # i think it was 20.52.10 # <[Saint]> you need to compile a build with the testplugins enabled. 20.53.57 # is there still a pre compiled apk of this left somewhere to try it quickly? 20.54.07 # thanks for the advice, if not, i guess that is the only option 20.59.31 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 21.04.30 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.26.47 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 21.42.18 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC12D61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.51.19 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.52.32 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 22.21.52 Join einhirn_ [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 22.21.59 Join girafe [0] (~girafe@AGrenoble-651-1-429-227.w90-52.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.23.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.23.18 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.25.19 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-179-187.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 22.26.13 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.26.13 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.26.13 Quit utack (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.26.13 Quit Rondom (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.26.16 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@89-93-179-187.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 22.28.49 Join Rondom [0] (~rondom@modo.nonmodosedetiam.net) 22.29.02 Join utack [0] (~utack@2a02:810a:83c0:9394:d63d:7eff:fedb:b2eb) 22.29.33 Join Topy44 [0] (topy@ns3.kurz.pw) 22.29.38 Quit utack (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.09.47 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 23.13.37 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0/20160211221018]) 23.14.11 Quit Bray90820 () 23.20.24 Join Bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@173-17-46-117.client.mchsi.com) 23.20.40 Part djukon 23.23.14 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.27.29 Join [Saint] [0] (~hayden@rockbox/staff/saint)