--- Log for 19.03.116 Server: verne.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 19 hours ago 00.00.58 # Can you use lockbox as an external DAC 00.01.04 # *Rockbox 00.08.14 # <[Saint]> They typically have no means of user input or display, and no user-facing internal storage. 00.10.42 # So is that a no? 00.11.55 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 00.12.14 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@1.202.125.222) 00.13.13 # <[Saint]> More a "Why?". 00.13.35 # What do you mean 00.14.24 # <[Saint]> I can't really think of any way that putting Rockbox on an external DAC would make any form of sense. 00.15.17 # * gevaerts thinks [Saint] misunderstood :) 00.15.19 # bray90820: no 00.15.32 # [Saint]: "as", not "on" 00.15.53 # <[Saint]> Ahhhhh...I did misread. Indeed. 00.15.59 # <[Saint]> That makes a lot more sense now. 00.16.06 # <[Saint]> And, yeah, no. 00.16.13 # Alright 00.16.25 # I'll just check of the stock firmware supports it then 00.16.52 # <[Saint]> I would sincerely doubt it. 00.19.10 # Well guess what 00.19.19 # It actually does support it :0 00.19.22 # :) 00.23.43 Nick suYin is now known as suYin`OFF (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 00.28.45 Quit ender` (Quit: There is nothing like the laughter of a baby. Unless it's 1 AM and you're home alone.) 00.36.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.43.14 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0/20160303134406]) 00.47.59 Quit MasterplasterPL (Quit: Leaving) 01.30.23 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.36.49 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 01.43.39 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@178.114.69.10.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 01.47.32 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.48.22 Quit gbl08ma (Remote host closed the connection) 01.53.26 # OFF TOPIC: Does anyone know of any DAPs that run on a tube 01.57.03 # <[Saint]> y'know what the D in DAP stands for, right? 01.57.17 # <[Saint]> Sounds like you want an AAP ;) 01.57.49 # What does AAP stand for 01.57.58 # Prob analog audio player 01.58.11 # <[Saint]> Well, you apparently want an analogue audio player. 01.58.50 # Do they even make portable analog audio players? 01.58.55 # <[Saint]> And, no, I am not aware of any portable tube driven audio players. 01.59.16 # <[Saint]> tubes don't lend themselves very well to being transported while powered. 01.59.25 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 01.59.41 # <[Saint]> They don't appreciate being moved around a lot when hot. 01.59.56 # Why not 02.00.36 # <[Saint]> A decent shock can collapse the filament and make 'em go pop. 02.01.27 # That's a good reason 02.01.41 # They do make portable DACs that have tube in them tho 02.04.41 # <[Saint]> Not that I am intimately aware of, but I would be genuinely surprised if there wasn't some form of tube driven external DAC out there. 02.06.20 Nick Darkenvy|Away is now known as Darkenvy (~Darkus@20e52a2cc0ee.click-network.com) 02.10.29 # http://www.wooaudio.com/products/wa8eclipse.html 02.16.05 Quit uwe_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02.16.48 Join uwe_ [0] (~uwe_@ipservice-092-217-117-057.092.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 02.19.26 # <[Saint]> bray90820: out of interest, what player is it you were talking about earlier where the OF allowed for use as an external DAC? 02.20.01 # DX90 02.20.20 # <[Saint]> Ah. That explains it. 02.20.27 # But I have the FIIO X3 and X5 which also allow it 02.21.18 # <[Saint]> I should use my DX* more often. 02.21.31 # <[Saint]> They barely even get powered on to be honest. 02.21.37 # Personally I prefer the FIIO X5 02.22.13 # If it wasn't so expensive I would get the X7 02.22.23 # <[Saint]> I use an iPod Classic and a FiiO Mont Blanc as my 'daily driver'. 02.22.46 # X5 is my Daily Driver 02.23.48 # Do you know of a cheaper DAP that runs on android 02.24.05 # <[Saint]> The iPod Classic /can/ drive my UE18s by itself. 02.24.22 # <[Saint]> But I prefer running it through the Mont Blanc. 02.24.39 # <[Saint]> I have the two stuck together with a velcro strap. 02.26.49 # How would the UE18s compare to something like Denon AH-D7100 02.27.04 # I have the denons 02.29.26 # <[Saint]> I don't think one can really make a direct comparison between the two. One is a big single-driver puffy earmuff style, and the other is a triple-driver balanced armature molded-to-your-inner-ear ~30dB-of-isolation in-ear monitors. 02.29.59 # <[Saint]> They are both good, but they are both good at very different things, so a comparison between them is pretty unfair for either party. 02.30.14 # Alright 02.30.30 # Also do you know of an android based dap that's cheaper teen the X7 02.30.57 # <[Saint]> DX50/90, lol 02.31.11 # Those are based on android? 02.31.16 # <[Saint]> Yep. 02.32.05 # <[Saint]> Pono is too, if you like some snake oil with your media playback. 02.32.25 # <[Saint]> Neil Young will personally fellate you if you buy one. 02.32.53 # Prob no android rom for them and I was hoping for something with wifi and bluetooth 02.33.02 # For the DX90 that is 02.34.51 # <[Saint]> One could, in theory, compile AOSP for the DX* players with sufficient determination. 02.35.21 # And knowledge which I don't have 02.35.29 # And Like I said I wanted wifi as well 02.36.25 # <[Saint]> Might as well just buy any old Android handset and just use a decent dedicated portable amp/DAC at this stage. 02.36.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.37.05 # I currently have the M8 and I might just do that 02.37.08 # <[Saint]> the audio paths in modern Android handsets is far from terrible. 02.37.37 # Do you think the DAC would make much difference tho if I am streaming music from something like google music? 02.38.47 # <[Saint]> No. Google Music crushes everything down to mp3 320 CBR as the best possible output (defaults to less on mobile data) anyway. 02.39.12 # That's what I was thinking 02.39.20 # So prob the setup I have is the best setup atm 02.39.37 # <[Saint]> Unfortunately for Google Music no matter what the source went in as it all gets transcoded client-side before it hits their dervers. 02.39.50 # <[Saint]> And all their supplied content is mp3 320. 02.40.00 # <[Saint]> *servers 02.40.27 # Yeah 02.41.09 # <[Saint]> I have been thinking for a while about adding Google Music streaming supported to Rockbox when we run hosted. 02.41.28 # What do you mean 02.41.33 # <[Saint]> The API for it isn't public, but it has been reversed far enough to make for several open client implementations. 02.42.07 # <[Saint]> So anywhere where we run hosted and have access to a network connection we could stream direct from Google Music. 02.42.32 # What would that mean for me as an end user 02.43.55 # <[Saint]> being able to stream from Google Play music directly in Rockbox (on hosted platforms with networking - ala SDL, android, maemo, openpandora, et al). 02.44.28 # That sounds pretty cool 02.44.49 # <[Saint]> I have the guts of it pretending that it is working locally, but there's still a fair amount I need to work out. 02.45.10 # <[Saint]> ...I have sooooo many half-baked projects sitting around in various branches. 02.45.14 # Have you thought about bringing any other services to Rockbox that supports lossless like subsonic 02.45.46 # They even have an API 02.45.47 # http://www.subsonic.org/pages/api.jsp 02.48.41 Quit djukon (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02.50.28 Join djukon [0] (transitor@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ytrtteyfzzbjwjcn) 02.51.09 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02.51.35 Quit scorche|sh (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.52.06 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@squisch.net) 02.52.06 Quit scorche|sh (Changing host) 02.52.06 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 02.52.32 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 02.56.29 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 02.59.49 Quit uwe_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 03.00.20 Join uwe_ [0] (~uwe_@ipservice-092-217-117-057.092.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 03.23.53 Join FSanches [0] (~felipe@70-91-193-41-BusName-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 03.30.11 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@d83-183-134-99.cust.tele2.se) 03.30.59 Join nlogex [0] (~filip@dhcp-108-168-15-53.cable.user.start.ca) 03.36.58 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.37.08 Join rela_ [0] (~x@p200300764D7C3E00BC18F7FF479CF2F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 03.37.11 Quit Totalled_ (Quit: Crystals and magic stone, pentagrams and unicorns, Zeta Reticuli, affliction buried deep within.) 03.39.57 Nick Darkenvy is now known as Darkenvy|Away (~Darkus@20e52a2cc0ee.click-network.com) 03.39.59 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.49.25 Join rela__ [0] (~x@p200300764D7C3E00BC18F7FF479CF2F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 03.50.32 Quit Elfish (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 03.50.47 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.50.57 Quit rela_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 03.54.51 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2001:1608:12:1:13:3:3:7) 03.56.07 Nick Darkenvy|Away is now known as Darkenvy (~Darkus@20e52a2cc0ee.click-network.com) 03.56.12 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.08.02 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@d83-183-134-99.cust.tele2.se) 04.25.13 Quit Darkenvy (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) 04.36.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.36.55 Quit ParkerR (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 04.43.52 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 04.51.41 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 04.57.30 Join [Saint_] [0] (~hayden@rockbox/staff/saint) 04.58.53 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.21.09 Join Darkenvy [0] (~Darkus@20e52a2cc0ee.click-network.com) 05.22.06 # I need a extra deep ipod metal back. 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