--- Log for 19.04.116 Server: verne.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 16 days ago 00.08.14 Quit Mihail (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 00.08.32 Join Mihail [0] (25d479b0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.212.121.176) 00.10.57 Join TheEaterOfSouls [0] (~chatzilla@66.172.117.241) 00.15.57 Join Coup [0] (18849025@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.132.144.37) 00.19.27 Quit TheEaterOfSouls (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]) 00.27.00 # Coup: I don't know about that device, but its usually a good idea to mention which build you are running in case it matters 00.28.17 Quit ender` (Quit: sweater, n a garment worn by children when their mother is cold) 00.36.31 Join FSanches [0] (~felipe@2804:14c:32:8e1e:3121:ebf:b3ac:fd07) 00.36.50 Quit Mihail (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 00.47.56 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 01.10.30 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 01.12.00 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 01.12.31 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.13.41 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@124-148-187-194.dyn.iinet.net.au) 01.13.41 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 01.13.41 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.18.21 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.24.03 Quit girafe (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.26.11 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@178.174.137.46) 01.42.17 Join bp0 [0] (~bp@unaffiliated/bp0) 01.52.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.02.42 Quit smoke_fumus (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 02.06.25 Quit FSanches (Quit: Leaving.) 02.08.17 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02.09.36 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 02.13.29 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02.26.28 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@2001:1c02:1903:d800:44b8:3bb2:b1fe:71f6) 02.37.59 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 03.13.45 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 03.31.55 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03.32.31 # OFF TOPIC Anyone here have an iPod video? 03.44.54 Quit jtdesigns01 (Remote host closed the connection) 03.46.08 Join jtdesigns01 [0] (~quassel@2601:400:8000:34f5:230:bdff:fe71:cebd) 03.52.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.26.45 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.44.38 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 05.47.08 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.52.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.24.01 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-197-108.mcn.bellsouth.net) 06.34.02 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06.34.25 Quit Bray90820 () 06.36.48 Join Bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@50-81-116-153.client.mchsi.com) 06.43.20 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 07.50.24 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 07.52.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.24.19 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.31.11 Join wodz_ [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 08.58.18 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.59.46 Quit Mir (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.00.26 Join Mir [0] (~Mir@173.58.180.149) 09.01.06 Join Mihail [0] (25d479b0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.212.121.176) 09.03.26 Quit petur (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.39.54 # Bray90820: what generation ? 09.48.57 Quit Bray90820 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.49.19 Join Bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@50-81-116-153.client.mchsi.com) 09.52.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.59.12 Join petur [0] (~petur@91.183.48.77) 09.59.13 Quit petur (Changing host) 09.59.13 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.03.56 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.06.34 Join rela_ [0] (~x@p200300764D1D1A00BC18F7FF479CF2F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.08.31 Join [Saint] [0] (~hayden@rockbox/staff/saint) 10.10.42 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10.28.18 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@d83-183-134-99.cust.tele2.se) 10.33.15 Quit PurlingNayuki (Quit: PurlingNayuki) 10.35.48 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-86-49-15-121.net.upcbroadband.cz) 10.51.11 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 10.55.07 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.03.20 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@2001:1c02:1903:d800:d51a:cd90:eed:5386) 11.23.49 Join suYin`OFF [0] (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 11.52.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.55.17 Join [Saint_] [0] (~hayden@rockbox/staff/saint) 11.55.33 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.50.04 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.05.20 # pamaury: I have strange problem: if I try boot rockbox through rolo from file placed on sd card - I have ATA error -2 (timeout on ACMD41). Can you reproduce this on your fuze+? And what wrong? It try set big timeout - no success. Try ignore it - and have ATA error -4. 13.05.59 # I don't have my fuze+ at hand right now, but I'll try it. I never use rolo to be honest 13.06.48 # usually ACMD41 timeouts are bad, it means the card is in a bad state, increasing the timeout won't fix it, the problem is elsewhere 13.10.05 # Problem not in rolo by it self - new rockbox startup but freeze on disk init. Probably you right and we should do some kind of reset for sd card before start new rockbox. What should I try? 13.11.42 # I have Rockbox r29832M-110508 on my Ipod Classig (160gb) and can't copy any more files to the ipod, as it gives the error Can't read from source file or disk.. 13.12.12 # I read that this is a problem with rockbox, and I should try dualboot, but does someone know how to get started with that on the classic? 13.13.23 # It should be in manual: http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml 13.14.32 # Mihail: what do you mean it's not rolo ? Rockbox already reset the card 13.14.43 # yeah, but the ipod that I have isn't in there, it's the 6th gen 13.16.13 # Mihail: but rolo is weird anyway, it is possible that I missed some detail and that rockbox does not properly shut down all the hardware before roloing, and then on init rockbox will "kill" some IP block 13.16.37 # Coup: is this with the emcore bootloader? I don't know much about it but TheSeven should or [Saint_] (which isn't around currently it seems) 13.17.20 # yeah, emcore 13.17.46 # hmm, and I seem to remember that this project has an own IRC channel but don't know if there's activity still, ( #freemyipod or so) 13.17.58 # been screwing around with it for about 5 days now, but no success 13.18.37 # pamaury: you right - probably I should try add shutdown for sd card to rolo. 13.18.45 # I'll check for the freemyipod irc too, thanks 13.19.23 # Coup: sorry, I can't help you more than trying to ping the right people 13.20.01 # No problem, I found a IRC for freemyipod-support, hopefully someone knows what to do there 13.20.05 # Thanks for the help anyway :D 13.20.56 # Coup: prof_wolfff is probably the right person to ask here 13.21.45 # he's currently working on both USB fixes/improvements, and has an experimental dualboot bootloader for the classic 13.21.53 # Alright, thanks :D 13.22.55 # [Saint] probably has some information about those projects as well - I've been out of the loop for quite a while now 13.23.47 # Yeah, I see they are also both on the freemyipod-support irc, so I'll ask there, hopefully they can help me further 13.24.00 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@p57B94D48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.25.19 # also note that especially if this started all of a sudden without any changes that you're aware of it might be physical hdd issues, a clicking noise (about once to twice a second) while trying to access the hdd might be an indication of that 13.25.24 # Mihail: honestly I am not sure the problem really lies with the card feel free to try. You cannot really "shutdown" a card and a reset should well, reset the card 13.26.08 # ipod classic hdds sadly fail rather often 13.26.51 # yeah, it does that sometimes 13.27.24 # I've seen some people replacing the hdd with a sd card, or even a ssd, but a bit scared to open it and break it or something 13.28.25 # pamaury: Probably I have something similar like we try fix in case c240v2. 13.28.43 # replacing the hdd isn't too bad - but opening the case is really tricky and will most certainly damage the back to some degree 13.29.56 # ah alright, I might also look into that 13.30.15 # Thanks for the help again :D 13.31.09 # does someone know if current rockbox builds include a smart tool? 13.31.26 # I vaguely remember seeing a patch for that a while ago 13.32.49 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 13.33.52 # Coup: if you don't care about the data on the ipod, you could also try restoring the ipod to the apple firmware 13.34.17 # that would likely be a prerequisite to a dualboot installation anyway 13.34.23 # I've done that also quite some times, but the syncing seems to go fine, but then the music isn't on the ipod 13.34.32 # \Which is why I wanted to try rockbox ^^ 13.35.06 # you could then have a look for the SMART data in apple's diagnostic mode 13.35.25 # that would give you an indication whether the HDD is bad 13.35.49 # ah alright, let me check 13.36.42 # go to manual test, i/o, disk, smart or something like that, don't remember the exact menu entries right now 13.37.27 # entering diagmode works like diskmode, with the left instead of the bottom button 13.37.42 # Alrightm I'm restoring it now 13.52.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.56.31 Quit Mihail (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 13.59.25 Join Mihail [0] (25d479b0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.212.121.176) 14.09.03 # Hmm, now I got an ipod has been detected but it could not be identified properly 14.09.06 # didn't get that before 14.14.22 # pamaury: AMSv2 have MCI_PWREN (AMSv1 different and have MCI_POWER). It should shutdown cards, but still no success :( 14.19.57 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 14.19.57 Quit Coup (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 14.25.06 Join Jinx [0] (Dojo@unaffiliated/jinx) 14.25.26 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 14.25.31 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 14.34.40 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.35.30 # Mihail: which device are we talking about ? You said fuze+ but mention amsv2... 14.40.42 # Сonfuse fuze+ and fuzev2. I have problem on AMSv2 (clip zip). But still interested is it also on AMSv1. 14.41.19 Join Coup_ [0] (18849025@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.132.144.37) 14.42.28 # ah, the sd code is soc specific, and I think amsv2 sd controller is partially undocumented (and different from amsv1) 14.42.33 # let me have a quick look at the driver 14.43.12 # wodz and I had a plan to make the sd driver partly generic but it's not finished 14.50.12 # Mihail: maybe try to replace mci_delay() with a longer delay, like sleep(HZ / 10); just to see 14.53.09 # still ATA error -2 14.53.45 # and you said this is only when RoLoing ? Then some hardware block must be in a bad state 14.54.03 # but I don't know amsv2 that well 14.55.33 # yes, only after rolo and only if I try boot from sd card 14.59.12 # but problems occurs on initialization first (internal) drive 15.00.17 # maybe I should switch card in rolo before it start new rockbox? 15.00.34 # wait, are you saying the timeout occurs on the internal drive and on the sd ? 15.00.47 # *not on sd 15.00.54 # yes 15.07.35 # maybe funman could help, I think he is the one who developed the driver and know amsv2 best 15.16.22 Join metaphysis [0] (~metaphysi@109.96.190.101) 15.25.16 Quit wodz_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.36.21 # I try skip internal drive initialization - same ATA error -2 but on sd card. 15.49.08 Join smoke_fumus [0] (~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90) 15.52.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.55.29 # Mihail: it really looks like a problem with the controller/dma/gpio/power for me, not the cards 15.57.34 # if you have a logic analyzer, I would suggest skipping the first drive and looking at the sd bus of the card, see what happens 15.58.13 # otherwise I have a clip+ lying around at my house, I might try to reproduce the problem and use my logic analyzer on it 16.06.53 # I don't have logic analyzer, so I wait your result 16.09.57 # Ok, you'll have to wait until tonight :-p 16.18.43 Quit Mihail (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 16.32.17 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.00.00 Quit jtdesigns01 (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 17.00.51 Join jtdesigns01 [0] (~quassel@2601:400:8000:34f5:230:bdff:fe71:cebd) 17.13.25 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@v163-44-154-238.a00f.g.sin1.static.cnode.io) 17.30.51 Quit petur (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 17.31.35 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 17.32.54 Join Mihail [0] (25d46170@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.212.97.112) 17.37.52 Join smoke_fumus|2 [0] (~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90) 17.39.31 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.40.56 Quit smoke_fumus (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.41.08 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-193-99.mcn.bellsouth.net) 17.41.51 Quit rela_ (Quit: Leaving) 17.46.56 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@v163-44-154-238.a00f.g.sin1.static.cnode.io) 17.52.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.54.47 # pamaury: I catch it - looks like compilation problem: when I add some minor changes to rolo - rockbox have error at startup but this rolo code cannot be used at startup. 17.59.18 # Mihail: I'm not sure I understand what you said :) 17.59.41 # When you have this effect (small changes in code => works/stop working), it might be related to cache 17.59.53 # and dma 18.00.27 # and/or alignment 18.01.13 # Probably alignment. I try do dump and compare. 18.21.08 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 18.22.16 Join GofidLetterkerl [0] (~hendrik@dyndsl-037-138-091-119.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 18.23.03 # Greetings, I am trying to build a libXmp-based codec for amiga tracker module files for rockbox. 18.23.42 # The makefiles are giving me some trouble, though. 18.24.53 # pamaury: I have no experience with this thing. I upload both builds and patch which cause this problem: http://knk.square7.ch/rb/ Can you look at this? 18.29.06 # In lib/rbcodec, I have files codecs/xmp.c, metadata/xmp.c and parts of libxmp under codecs/libxmp. However, the files in codecs/libxmp are not compiled, so when linking, I get errors about missing undefined references. 18.29.49 Quit krnlyng (Quit: krnlyng) 18.32.15 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@77.116.73.6.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 18.35.12 # GofidLetterkerl: which patch you use? 18.36.54 # @mihail: Just plain Rockbox (from the github repo), which compiles with no problem, and then I started adding code to interface with libXmp. 18.37.44 # If you upload your changes I can try fix make files. 18.47.30 # @Mihail: you can find my changes here: https://github.com/HendrikR/rockbox . Probably won't do much for now, just set some basic metadata for the song. 18.50.53 Quit krnlyng (Quit: krnlyng) 18.51.23 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@83.175.90.24) 19.05.56 # GofidLetterkerl: I think you just should run ../tools/configure again to update makefile dependency. 19.08.38 # @Mihail: Tried that already, from an empty directory. The "undefined reference" errors persist. 19.11.21 # strange - I have "make: *** [/-rock/xmp/rockbox/build/lib/rbcodec/metadata/xmp.o] Error 1" so it try compile but can't. 19.12.33 Join girafe [0] (~girafe@2a01:cb15:8294:4400:5446:9b2:ce06:4ff2) 19.14.38 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.20.51 # GofidLetterkerl: try again run configure in empty dir and than make -j1 19.21.52 # GofidLetterkerl: for which target (player) you try do build? 19.22.15 # For now, I build for SDL (target 200). 19.25.27 # configure in empty dir and make -j1 did not help. The "make.dep" in the build dir does not list the .c files it would need to compile to fix the errors. 19.25.27 # ok, I have your problem for target 200. 19.28.48 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 19.30.02 # for testing it might be easier to compile the codeclib separately (configure a build with "warble codec tool" 19.30.16 # this lets you run the lib separately from the rest of rockbox 19.31.46 # I am not familiar with codec structure (probably saratoga can help), but I think you can't use directly libXmp from rbcodec/metadata as it plugin and shouldn't be directly linked to main rockbox binary. 19.33.23 Nick suYin`OFF is now known as suYin (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 19.34.54 # Thanks, using "warble codec tool" greatly speeds up the process (errors persist, though). 19.35.31 # I am aware this is not an easy task ... I will have to make adaptions in libXmp to make it run with rockbox. 19.35.45 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 19.37.45 # I thin you should separate some part (related to metadata) from libXmp and move/copy it to rbcodec/metadata/xmp.c 19.37.45 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19.38.01 # *think 19.40.59 # Yes, that would work ... but it would make the xmp.c rather large and unwieldy (libxmp has over 80 loaders for different formats), so I tried to keep the basic structure of libXmp intact. 19.46.51 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 19.52.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.55.30 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 20.07.06 Quit smoke_fumus|2 (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 20.12.19 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-179-187.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 20.18.36 Quit metaphysis (Quit: metaphysis) 20.20.54 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.26.46 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 20.38.10 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.10.18 Part GofidLetterkerl 21.22.03 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.23.24 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.23.59 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.25.20 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.38.14 Quit krabador (Quit: Take The Time) 21.52.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.59.03 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 22.12.15 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services) 22.12.24 Join dfkt_ [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.29.51 Quit jtdesigns01 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.57.16 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]) 23.00.55 Quit Mihail (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 23.05.58 Nick scorche|1h is now known as scorche|sh (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 23.08.33 Nick suYin is now known as suYin`OFF (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 23.13.39 Join FSanches [0] (~felipe@2804:14c:32:8e1e:4c7b:6928:789c:e2ef) 23.25.50 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 23.37.41 Join jtdesigns01 [0] (~quassel@2601:400:8000:34f5:230:bdff:fe71:cebd) 23.48.13 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 23.52.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.57.18 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@v163-44-154-238.a00f.g.sin1.static.cnode.io)