--- Log for 24.04.116 Server: verne.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 21 days ago 00.14.35 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.16.32 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.17.38 Join __builtin [0] (~franklin@unaffiliated/franklin) 00.17.59 Quit krabador (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.37.22 Quit nlogex (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.42.58 Quit ender` (Quit: I went to a general store. They wouldn't let me buy anything specifically.) 00.49.25 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.50.42 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 00.50.47 # <[Saint]> saratoga: if we wanted dynamic sampling rate, we would have to stop playback upon change, wouldn't we? 00.51.13 # <[Saint]> triggering a rebuffer, ruining gapless(?), and generally making an all-round horrible experience. 00.56.04 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.58.49 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.00.21 # [Saint]: depends on the hardware 01.00.55 # on the imx233, in theory (at least the manual claims) that you can tweak the frequency on the fly 01.01.16 # <[Saint]> How the... 01.01.32 # <[Saint]> I wonder what that would sound like. 01.01.42 # <[Saint]> Whether it would be free of artifacts or not. 01.02.46 # I don't see any reason why it would sound horrible, but you have to it at the right time 01.12.31 Quit Bray90820 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.12.50 Join Bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@50-81-116-153.client.mchsi.com) 01.31.25 Nick suYin is now known as suYin`OFF (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 01.42.52 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]) 01.45.05 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 01.46.32 Nick suYin`OFF is now known as suYin (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 01.47.06 Nick suYin is now known as suYin`OFF (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 01.54.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.04.17 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 02.04.28 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 02.22.04 Join [Saint_] [0] (~hayden@rockbox/staff/saint) 02.22.31 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.33.44 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 03.08.56 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.11.57 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.42.31 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.45.12 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.54.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.04.17 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~hayden@rockbox/staff/saint) 04.07.29 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04.20.30 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@82.159.0.123.dyn.user.ono.com) 04.38.56 Join betheynyx [0] (betheynyx@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:c675) 05.30.05 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 05.33.06 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.54.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.41.34 Join Bray90820_ [0] (~bray90820@50-81-116-153.client.mchsi.com) 06.41.39 Quit Bray90820 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.47.11 Quit Bray90820_ (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 07.06.55 Join Bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@50-81-116-153.client.mchsi.com) 07.10.33 Join nlogex [0] (~filip@dhcp-108-168-15-53.cable.user.start.ca) 07.27.49 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.30.54 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07.54.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.20.06 Quit nlogex (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 09.25.05 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@210-84-28-213.dyn.iinet.net.au) 09.25.05 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 09.25.05 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.27.23 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09.54.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.58.36 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.32.29 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.35.34 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 10.40.37 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.43.20 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 10.49.44 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 10.53.48 Quit PurlingNayuki (Quit: PurlingNayuki) 11.54.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.04.27 Nick suYin`OFF is now known as suYin (mysuyin@server2.shellfire.net) 12.38.51 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-179-187.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 13.16.03 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@p5B2FDEFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.28.55 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.54.47 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 13.57.45 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 14.17.59 Quit krnlyng (Quit: krnlyng) 14.19.58 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@178.112.149.181.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 15.01.55 Quit ZincAlloy (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.05.17 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@p5B2FDEFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.54.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.06.14 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 1.2) 16.13.39 Quit betheynyx (Quit: ZNC 1.6.1+deb1 - http://znc.in) 16.17.24 Join betheynyx [0] (~betheynyx@li394-234.members.linode.com) 16.34.31 Join MasterplasterPL [0] (~WIN@subscr-46-148-174-196.dhcp-docsis.net.tomkow.pl) 16.37.14 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 16.38.12 Quit MasterplasterPL (Client Quit) 17.09.56 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 17.12.56 Quit tchan (Client Quit) 17.15.09 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 17.20.13 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 1.4) 17.21.11 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@c-50-129-174-2.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 17.21.11 Quit tchan (Changing host) 17.21.11 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 17.26.57 Join FSanches [0] (~felipe@2804:14c:32:8e1e:792d:fa1f:5828:b091) 17.29.13 Join nlogex [0] (~filip@dhcp-108-168-15-53.cable.user.start.ca) 17.29.41 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.35.09 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-67-58-91.mcn.bellsouth.net) 17.44.11 Quit nlogex (Quit: WeeChat 1.4) 17.45.57 Join nlogex [0] (~filip@dhcp-108-168-15-53.cable.user.start.ca) 17.47.17 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 17.49.56 Join ZincAlloy1 [0] (~Adium@p57B95A39.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.50.02 Quit ZincAlloy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.50.28 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.54.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.21.21 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@v163-44-154-238.a00f.g.sin1.static.cnode.io) 18.23.12 Join sansai [0] (5ce7e601@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.231.230.1) 18.26.00 # Ahoy. It's really cool, that you implemented booting from SD for sansas. If I don't already have the newest rockbox on my dead clip+ and e2x0 (showing as 4mb and 0,5mb drives) I cannot write it to them, I guess? 18.29.46 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.42.12 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@178.112.210.237.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 19.03.43 Join saratoga_ [0] (47ae8da4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.174.141.164) 19.04.09 # sansai: the bootloader is stored on the internal flash, so it has to at least work well enough to get the bootloader running 19.04.20 # if the flash is totally dead it won't help 19.05.39 # They did come on with normal working flash before, but no luck with this for a while now. I wonder what happens with these players, as the problem is cannot be uncommon 19.06.27 # they use very cheap flash and simple SD controllers, i think eventually either the flash wears out or the internal controller gets screwed up badly enough that it stops working 19.07.30 # maybe there is some way to recover them, but the players don't have a real recovery mode which makes troubleshooting bad flash very hard 19.07.49 # whereas on other devices you can often run code over USB 19.11.23 # yes, I contemplated using the flash from the e200 in the clip+, but that might not even be the problem (and I dont have the soldering skills) 19.12.53 # I'm thinking of using a hot air gun to warm them up, possibly having a kind of reflow? 19.13.12 # yes that would probably work 19.13.30 # would also be interesting to dump the contents of one and see what is on it after it fails to boot 19.14.07 # although if the device wouldn't boot, there would be no obvious way to repair it even if you knew the problem 19.14.55 # some of the sansas have jtag pins, although i don't know if they actually work on newer models, but in theory that might be used to repair one 19.18.30 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@210-84-61-113.dyn.iinet.net.au) 19.18.37 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 19.18.37 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 19.19.01 # I think they both have JTAG pins. By that would probably work, you did mean swapping the flash, not using hot air, right? 19.19.45 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 19.20.37 # i don't know if swapping the flash would work (have to check the datasheets to see if the pinouts match), but hot air is a common way to desolder small chips and BGA 19.21.34 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19.23.50 # by the way, tests of our old gcc vs. newer gcc: http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?p=656245#post656245 19.25.20 # ape gets slower but everything else gets a bit faster 19.30.20 Join Mihail [0] (25d48b64@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.212.139.100) 19.33.29 # saratoga_: But I think we can have problems with new gcc. Are you have clip v1? Can you try my builds http://knk.square7.ch/rockbox-clipv1-i2c2-pwroff-1.zip I think it fails on boot and problem related to new gcc. 19.34.19 # i still haven't found my clipv1, but i'll look or test on fuze/e200v1 19.34.33 # but i don't think upgrading gcc is really worthwhile anyway 19.34.55 # speed up is a few percent on average, and we'd waste a lot of time tracking down new bugs 19.35.09 # with that time we could just optimize more code :) 19.35.46 # You already send clipv1 with bad battery to me? 19.36.15 # crap, no i'm sorry 19.36.16 # i forgot 19.36.33 # i'll really try to do it on monday, just very busy these days 19.36.33 # Can you try on it? 19.36.49 # yes i think so 19.37.02 # ok when i get back to my desk i'll try it 19.39.02 Quit [7] (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.41.44 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 19.54.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.56.28 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.00.59 Join Darkenvy [0] (~Darkus@28c68e1a9c62.click-network.com) 20.06.22 # Btw. on my working clip+ with the variable frequency build (8a0360d) some frequencies go higher than the "set" value (for example DBOP shows set 48, runs at 19 and spikes to 96). Is that safe? 20.12.50 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 20.15.03 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.22.03 Join JanC_ [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 20.23.29 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.24.41 Quit saratoga_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.27.55 Nick JanC_ is now known as JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 20.28.20 Quit FSanches (Quit: Leaving.) 20.53.13 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.54.48 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.10.44 Join FSanches [0] (~felipe@2804:14c:32:8e1e:792d:fa1f:5828:b091) 21.49.31 Quit FSanches (Quit: Leaving.) 21.54.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.16.33 Join hadess [0] (53316ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.49.110.165) 22.18.46 # Mihail: I have installed your build for the clip v1. It boots fine but the USB doesn't connect with my computer. 22.20.47 # Is latest dev builds don't have this problem? 22.21.41 # With the last build USB works fine 22.25.43 # ok, thanks for test! It still strange as it have same USB code and mostly same for all other. 22.30.28 # With the last build (18fecd9) usb works fine. I will try in another computer. 22.31.24 # sansai: we don't use DBOP on clip+ and cllip zip so we just should ignore it for this players 22.43.54 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]) 23.16.33 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 23.52.28 Quit hadess (Quit: Page closed) 23.55.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.57.46 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@v163-44-154-238.a00f.g.sin1.static.cnode.io)