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01.41.46 #       <Link8> anyone here?
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01.52.53 #       <[Saint]> Just ask your (relevant, support/Rockbox related) question.
01.53.05 #       <[Saint]> 'anyone here?' is neither of those.
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02.01.09 #       <Link8> hey [Saint]
02.01.21 #       <Link8> i keep getting dir buffer is full
02.01.30 #       <Link8> i set it to the most entries
02.01.34 #       <Link8> but still get the message
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02.15.53 #       <Link8> Link8 )) hey [Saint]
02.15.53 #       <Link8> [02:01:46] Link8 )) i keep getting dir buffer is full
02.15.53 #       <Link8> [02:01:56] Link8 )) i set it to the most entries
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02.15.53 #       <Link8> [02:02:00] Link8 )) but still get the message
02.17.24 #       <[Saint_]> That setting is only relevant to <number of files per directory>, not <number of files total>, and the default, and the max, are pretty silly.
02.17.48 #       <[Saint_]> I really suspect you don't have (well, I hope not, anyway) 10,000 files under a single directory with no children.
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02.18.56 #       <Link8> theres files within folders
02.19.00 #       <Link8> does that count?
02.19.05 #       <[Saint_]> No.
02.19.16 #       <Link8> theres folders in that directory with files in them
02.19.24 #       <[Saint_]> Still no.
02.19.45 #       <[Saint_]> it is <total files to display for any given directory>
02.19.49 #       <Link8> so why do i get the message?
02.20.40 #       <[Saint_]> Probably *because* you set it to the most entries.
02.21.11 #       <Link8> how can i fix it?
02.21.38 #       <[Saint_]> revert it to something sane.
02.22.04 #       <[Saint_]> there is absolutely no point in that number being greater than the number of files in any one given directory (not including children).
02.22.47 #       <[Saint_]> realistically I very sincerely doubt you have more than a few dozen media files per directory at most.
02.23.30 #       <Link8> what do you mean
02.23.39 #       <Link8> i should make the entries smaller?
02.23.48 #       <[Saint_]> Yes.
02.25.29 #       <[Saint_]> "Max Entries in File Browser. This setting controls the limit on the number of files that
02.25.29 #       <[Saint_]> you can see in any particular directory in the file browser. You can configure the
02.25.29 #       <[Saint_]> size to be between 50 and 10,000 files in steps of 50. The default is 400. Higher
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02.25.29 #       <[Saint_]> values will shorten the music buffer, so you should increase this setting only if you
02.25.29 #       <[Saint_]> have directories with a large number of files"
02.27.40 #       <Link8> what setting do you recommend
02.29.10 #       <[Saint_]> long pressing on any setting will allow you to reset it to the default value. The default is overkill for most normal users with a structured directory layout.
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02.31.55 #       <Link8> i timed out
02.32.04 #       <Link8> what setting do you recommend Saint?
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02.46.19 #       <Link8> you around saint
02.46.30 #       <Link8> [Saint_]
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03.14.07 #       <Link8> i Changed it to 400
03.14.12 #       <Link8> still get the error
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03.15.51 #       <Link8> this doesnt work
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03.17.34 #       <Link8> shit
03.20.52 #       <Link8> hmm it works now
03.20.56 #       <Link8> no more rror
03.20.58 #       <Link8> error
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05.01.25 #       <amazoniantoad> Hey guys. I'm trying to install rockbox on my ipod and went through the instructions on the site...closed all itunes software, turned ipod off, booted it into dfu. The dfu directory mounted but the bootstrap doesn't detect the folder I guess
05.01.28 #       <amazoniantoad> any ideas?
05.01.52 #       <amazoniantoad> It says it could not open the dfu device.
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09.58.40 #       <amazoniantoad> I'm trying to use rockbox, but first I have to install emcore on my ipod classic 7gen. I drop the r859 ubi in and boot into the installer, but I just get stuck on "formatting"
09.58.48 #       <amazoniantoad> I let it sit for an hour, but nothing happened
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10.20.56 #       <amazoniantoad> Anyone awake here?
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21.22.50 #       * [Saint] finds it really difficult to understand the thought process behind assuming anyone here cares even slightly about emCORE.
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21.46.24 #       <TheSeven> well, the rockbox wiki refers to it I guess?
21.46.34 #       <TheSeven> and emCORE is historically kinda linked to rockbox ;)
21.47.59 #       <[Saint]> In a _very_ loose sense.
21.48.03 #       <[Saint]> But, granted. Yes.
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21.48.42 #       <TheSeven> end users who just read some tutorial somewhere can't really tell emcore and rockbox apart
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23.39.44 #       <ulmutul> I want to make use of the YH820's transflective LCD, but I'm a bit confused about the configuration. The obvious choice for my understanding is to use the LCD_SLEEP timer as secondary timer (after the backlight is turned off).  Now the comments in the target-config-file says, that HAVE_LCD_ENABLE should also be defined, but there was a longish discussion in FS#9890 that comes to the opposite...
23.39.46 #       <ulmutul> ...conclusion.
23.39.56 #       <fs-bluebot> http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9890 3iPod 5G: LCD sleep, BCM shutdown and bootstrap (patches, closed)
23.39.59 #       <ulmutul> Do we have an official transflective LCD policy?
23.42.33 #       <ulmutul> BTW if someone is interrested: the runtime on my device with the LCD always enabled was < 1 minute :)
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23.47.07 #       <kugel> ulmutul: on transflecive displays, lcd enable should should turn the backlight off and lcd sleep should put it into deepter power saving
23.48.19 #       <pixelma> When discussing that topic wrt the Ipod Video etc. the opinion was "if it's readable without backlight (in usual environmental conditions) the leave it on". At least that's what I remember but I might be biased as that's what I'm for
23.48.33 #       <ulmutul> Isn't there a separate setting for backlight? (HAVE_BACKLIGHT)
23.49.41 #       <pixelma> That's probably only there for the stock Ondios (monochrome without backlight at all)
23.50.02 #       <ulmutul> As I understand: when the backlight is turned off, and the LCD is disabled also (if HAVE_LCD_ENABLE is present)
23.51.07 #       <ulmutul> But with a transflective display I don't want it to be disabled.
23.51.37 #       <kugel> right, i confused it with HAVE_BACKLIGHT
23.52.00 #       <ulmutul> *the runtime _difference_ on my device with the LCD always enabled was < 1 minute
23.52.29 #       <kugel> LCD_ENABLE is for light power saving where the display can be refreshed quickly upon reenabling
23.53.00 #       <kugel> LCD_SLEEP enables deeper power saving, potentially with noticeable delay on the initial refresh
23.53.37 #       <pixelma> Hmm, I think I misread and misremembered.  Didn't buschel introduce a setting for it later so that the user can decide?
23.53.39 #       <kugel> you should be able to implement either one or both on transflective displays
23.53.44 #       <ulmutul> Yes, and there is an additional time setting IIRC for sleep.
23.54.51 #       <ulmutul> It would be useful to have the timer for backlight, and a second one for actually disabling the LCD.
23.55.19 #       <pixelma> Speaking of sleep... maybe I should try this for myself now. It seems I can't add much to the discussion now anyway
23.55.39 #       <kugel> the comment that says LCD_SLEEP should have LCD_ENABLE as a prerequisite makes sense
23.56.28 #       <kugel> if you have only one choice because the hw only supports one display power saving mode then simply use LCD_ENABLE
23.57.18 #       <kugel> ulmutul: isnt there a separate timer?