--- Log for 17.05.116 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 11 hours ago 00.01.40 # I think this is why in the mentioned FS discussion people were against defining HAVE_LCD_ENABLE at all (because it wouldn't do anything) 00.02.14 # ipodvideo (has transflective display) doesn't define LCD_ENABLE so it looks you're right 00.03.14 # I looked in the ipodmini config, and it only has HAVE_LCD_SHUTDOWN defined. 00.03.29 # I'll look in ipodvideo as well 00.04.08 # i think on the ipodvideo it's implemented pretty much as you envision so just follow what it does 00.04.58 # Oh, there's even a "HAVE_TRANSFLECTIVE_LCD" :) 00.05.28 # but calling lcd_enable() is done by the backlight drivers so it's really up to you 00.06.00 # i think you only get the setting with LCD_SLEEP so that may be why ipodvideo doesn't use LCD_ENABLE 00.06.35 # (the additional "disable display after backlight off timeout" setting" 00.06.40 # ) 00.08.12 # OK, I'll definitely use ipodvideo as a source of inspiration ;) 00.12.15 # I've doe a lot for backlight and display power saving but it's really long agi 00.12.16 # ago 00.15.15 # I'll battery bench again now with backlight always on. 00.18.20 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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My question is: 02.38.03 # There is shredding software with an 'overwrite all free data' function, which I understand is necessary in this kind of drives. 02.38.53 # Is it safe to run it on Sansas? In the sense -- it won't permanently erase the bootloading program or anything? Or will it? 02.39.58 # Perhaps the question is: is the core code necessary to run the firmware/Rockbox on the same 'partition' or something as the regular 2..8 GB player memory? 02.40.28 # *'overwrite all free space' 02.41.14 # Of course I'll make the backups etc. -- I just wonder about the chance of bricking. 03.28.41 Join idonob [0] (~Owner@S010650395554ac48.vs.shawcable.net) 04.07.05 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@24.152.223.142.res-cmts.eph2.ptd.net) 04.19.07 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 04.19.10 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 04.47.33 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.47.50 # Any ideas? How do you reckon? 04.47.51 Join [Saint] [0] (~hayden@rockbox/staff/saint) 04.50.58 Join saratoga [0] (123e1b44@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.27.68) 04.51.44 # lnxv: you can erase the user-accessible part of the storage, but you'll have to copy a new .rockbox folder over when you're done 04.52.08 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 04.52.58 # saratoga: I'm not sure that's what I'm asking about. I'm talking about software that has a 'erase all space on a device/partition/? that isn't used by anything' feature. 04.53.22 # Used to erase traces of files so to prevent undeleting. 04.53.26 # Can I safely do that? 04.53.35 # yes 04.53.58 # Won't it damage some part of the storage necessary for booting? 04.54.12 # you can do whatever you want, but if you want the player to boot you have to end up with a .rockbox folder 04.54.48 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.54.55 # (For the record, I have an app called 'BleachBit' in mind.) 04.58.21 # I'm asking, because the firmware/the bootloader/whatever isn't, strictly speaking, 'user-accessible', so I'm asking whether that app has the power to erase something that can't be repaired. 04.58.50 # Probably not, but better safe than sorry. Apologies for belabouring the point too. 05.12.11 # ... http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaViewFirmwarePartition says there's a separate partition. So perhaps it's going to be fine. 05.13.54 # you really can do whatever you want so long as you put the .rockbox folder back in place when you're done 05.14.05 # doesn't matter what you put in place of 'anything' 05.16.21 # The .rockbox dir won't even be affected by the feature I'm describing. :) 05.16.21 Join shadows [0] (e@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-crqhrwmsnvgagcrh) 05.17.18 # uh..... 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Revision 00a3658, 255 builds, 15 clients. 11.09.15 # * gevaerts restarted his build client 11.09.51 # Apparently I hadn't done that at the last reboot, and there doesn't seem to be any other android builder online 11.17.45 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 569 seconds. 11.17.46 # Build Server message: 3Revision 00a3658 result: 2 errors 0 warnings 11.18.37 # * gevaerts is confused 11.18.41 # Where are the errors? 11.19.14 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-117-132.net.upcbroadband.cz) 11.28.22 Join b0hoon [0] (3e57b852@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.87.184.82) 11.33.09 # If there is a person who has installed this piece of crap on debian 8, and knows what to do i would be grateful for some help and i could set up it on my vms 11.33.12 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20160427#11:57:13 11.33.38 # YP-R0 and R1 i suppose 11.33.55 # :) 11.34.16 # lol 11.34.28 # everyone know you have to set it up on gentoo 11.35.02 # duo8: well i have virtualized debian so no gentoo 11.35.25 # please... :P 11.35.45 # what is it anw? 11.36.32 # duo8: what do you mean? 11.37.12 # b0hoon: if you figure out how to fix that, you'll be hailed as a hero! 11.37.24 # duo8: i can't setup a build env for samsung yp-r0 11.38.06 # gevaerts: yeah, but for now i give up 11.38.47 # have you tried another target? 11.39.13 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11.39.18 # duo8: I suspect you didn't actually understand the question 11.39.37 # well i've only seen the output 11.39.40 # duo8: i have everything except build env for android and this 11.41.54 # b0hoon: from what I understand, that version of crosstools-ng not only suffers from the usual issues with newer compilers, but it also doesn't like non-ancient gnu make 11.42.30 # is rockbox relying on deprecated softwares? 11.42.35 # Which makes things more interesting that usual 11.44.15 # duo8: rockbox relies on people doing the work to maintain things, and lately those people just aren't there 11.44.44 # Updating toolchains requires work and testing 11.45.58 # gevaerts: yes and i can't cope with it now, dependencies are very tight, i'v tried to change things (packages) and one thing complicates another 11.46.16 # b0hoon: I know. 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