--- Log for 07.06.116 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 14 hours ago 00.02.15 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 00.04.06 Quit ender` (Quit: The world isn't getting any dumber - it's just easier for dumb people to be heard.) 00.04.51 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.05.31 Quit advcomp2019__ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00.08.59 Quit japonecka (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.15.56 Join nlogex [0] (~filip@dhcp-108-168-15-53.cable.user.start.ca) 00.19.18 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@2602:306:38a6:d220:7d7c:a199:8c19:c8c9) 00.24.24 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 00.27.28 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.57.15 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 01.16.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.18.39 Quit girafe (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.35.42 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 01.48.01 Quit foolsh (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01.53.25 Join foolsh [0] (~starchase@2601:241:c200:4bc5:c5a6:5fb9:471e:c9a9) 01.58.59 Quit Moarc (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01.59.41 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 02.09.48 Quit foolsh (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02.10.13 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.12.07 Join foolsh [0] (~starchase@2601:241:c200:4bc5:c5a6:5fb9:471e:c9a9) 02.52.24 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@d83-183-134-99.cust.tele2.se) 03.02.10 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 03.16.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.44.49 Join fishbulb [0] (~fishbulb@unaffiliated/fishbulb) 04.45.47 # hey 04.45.56 # who here uses an iriver? 04.47.06 # I'm wondering if it's at all possible to use ntfs somehow 04.47.58 # I'm putting an msata solid state drive in mine, I'm wondering if there's any way it can use ntfs 04.48.55 # or what I can do about the 4gb file size limit 04.50.09 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@24.152.223.142.res-cmts.eph2.ptd.net) 04.54.40 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-67-63-156.mcn.bellsouth.net) 05.06.55 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 05.09.33 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.16.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.19.27 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@99-138-109-34.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 05.22.37 Join Strobokopp [0] (~Strobokop@x5f768837.dyn.telefonica.de) 05.23.57 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.25.58 Quit Stroboko1p (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05.28.04 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 05.31.44 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.51.29 Quit smoke_fumus (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 05.52.28 Quit nlogex (Quit: WeeChat 1.5) 05.53.12 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.53.59 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@99-138-109-34.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 05.57.24 Join nlogex [0] (~filip@dhcp-108-168-15-53.cable.user.start.ca) 06.00.01 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 06.05.31 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@chello213047041020.graz.surfer.at) 06.22.23 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@124-149-156-51.dyn.iinet.net.au) 06.22.24 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 06.22.24 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.23.27 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-117-132.net.upcbroadband.cz) 06.24.40 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.29.47 Quit Strife89 (Remote host closed the connection) 06.33.40 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-67-63-156.mcn.bellsouth.net) 06.34.22 Quit The_Prospector (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.44.29 Join The_Prospector [0] (~The_Prosp@unaffiliated/cornman) 06.54.32 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Vamoose.) 07.07.08 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@65-131-148-108.sxct.qwest.net) 07.07.08 Quit advcomp2019 (Changing host) 07.07.08 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 07.16.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.33.04 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.33.12 Quit xorly (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.33.40 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-117-132.net.upcbroadband.cz) 07.35.52 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 07.37.40 Join Strife89|ThinkPa [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-67-63-156.mcn.bellsouth.net) 07.42.30 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.45.34 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.54.20 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@82.159.0.123.dyn.user.ono.com) 07.59.00 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 07.59.00 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 08.01.11 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.01.12 Join amiconn [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.03.10 Quit Strife89|ThinkPa (Quit: Leaving) 08.12.27 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.13.41 Quit nlogex (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 08.17.36 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.18.21 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-67-63-156.mcn.bellsouth.net) 09.00.04 Quit amayer_ (Quit: Leaving) 09.05.29 Join petur [0] (~petur@91.183.48.77) 09.05.29 Quit petur (Changing host) 09.05.29 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.16.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.17.35 Quit petur (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.59.08 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 09.59.35 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.02.29 Join elensil [0] (~edhelas@2001:1c02:1903:d800:b893:3e0:90da:b068) 10.02.33 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.02.35 # prof_wolfff: Is g#1324 n2g ready? 10.02.36 # 3Gerrit review #1324 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1324 : 3usb-designware: New USB driver for Synopsys DesignWare USB OTG core. by Cástor Muñoz 10.17.43 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.20.31 # fishbulb: rockbox only supports FAT 10.20.44 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.33.22 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.35.47 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11.00.10 Quit PurlingNayuki (Quit: PurlingNayuki) 11.16.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.19.27 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.37.19 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.37.27 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.38.52 Join fs-bluebot_ [0] (~fs-bluebo@xd9bef90a.dyn.telefonica.de) 11.38.57 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 11.40.56 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11.41.09 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 11.42.08 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 12.06.16 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 12.08.53 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 12.09.18 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 12.23.27 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@ip1f12f931.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 12.33.57 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.38.42 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@210-84-23-175.dyn.iinet.net.au) 12.38.45 Quit Guest85177 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 12.38.53 Quit JdGordon_ (Changing host) 12.38.53 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 12.41.21 Join Guest85177 [0] (~Slayer@c-69-255-136-113.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 12.42.01 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.46.15 # pamaury: the power-on weirdness of my zenxfi3 continues 12.47.02 # on my way back home, it would not turn on. I tried pushing the reset button (I’m fairly certain that I triggered it), tried power on, tried waiting a few seconds, tried power on, did not work. when I arrived home (~10 minutes later), it turned on when I tried it once more (without another reset) 12.47.37 # now I had it on my notebooks USB to charge it a bit, and after some minutes (cannot tell exactly how many), I looked at it again and it was turned off. unplugging USB and triggering the power button turns the device on and shows 100% battery 12.51.48 # Horrorcat: I tried it on mine and couldn't reproduce. Are you sure you are pushing the power on far enough ? So you say it powered off/crash when plugged to usb ? 12.52.07 # * pamaury cannot understand how other people manage to avoid super weird problem that I never observe 12.52.12 # *have 12.52.32 # I also had the thought that there’s maybe a cold solder joint or something 12.52.43 # because it’s super-weird, as you say 12.53.03 # I’m pushing it to the point where the case limits 12.53.14 # is it possible to open the device non-destructively? :-) 12.55.28 # I had a thought yesterday: in fact the battery voltage is used by the device for charging (by the hardware) so improper setup could result in some glitches like this. What I don't understand is that the same cod is used on all imx233 targets and it works very reliably. So now I am wondering if the wiring of the xfi3 could be somehow different 12.55.47 # yes it is possible to open it, although I admit it's a bit tricky 12.56.55 # I seriously need to dig this weird battery reading issue, it might be more important than I initially thought 12.57.13 # to open it, I used a knife iirc, there are plastic clips all around the cover at the back 12.57.43 # beware that the battery is attached to the back and the battery wires are not super long 12.58.37 # okay 12.58.59 # that looks super tight 12.59.08 # the removable cover is the backside? 13.00.51 # yes 13.00.58 # okay 13.01.03 # double check if there are no screws hidden 13.01.22 # Horrorcat: photos: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZENXFi3 13.01.31 # ah thanks 13.03.37 # I might take a look in a quiet minute or something 13.14.38 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.16.01 Quit idonob (Quit: bye) 13.16.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.17.36 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.22.26 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 13.24.49 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 14.05.41 # is the ipod classic the best rockbox player now? 14.06.27 # duo8: define "best" 14.06.56 # decent audio, navigateable, available 14.07.03 # and maybe some other small points 14.07.35 # For small points, it's one of the worst. It's *huge*! 14.07.47 # that guy over at ruizu, hope he's still trying to make a rockbox player 14.08.50 # my sansa does ok but navigating is a pain 14.09.01 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.11.00 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.14.36 # if you don't mind a brick 14.14.45 # the iriver h340 14.14.48 # fucking awesome. 14.14.55 # I have two, it's my favourite 14.15.19 # it's thicker than the iriver and it's smaller in footprint 14.16.43 # plus it records and you can put giant drives and giant batteries in it, I get like 15 to 20 hours 14.17.29 # I use it as an active headphone amp too 14.18.44 # like software controlled headphone amp 14.23.05 # fishbulb: what is an headphone amp ? 14.23.34 # it's plugged by usb to your computer ? 14.23.52 # i presume using the line-in as input and the headphone output as output? 14.28.38 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.31.39 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.38.08 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.40.52 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 14.42.25 Join japonecka [0] (~OK@37-48-6-86.tmcz.cz) 14.42.45 Quit Guest85177 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 14.45.04 Join Guest85177 [0] (~Slayer@c-69-255-136-113.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 14.54.01 # duo8: best has no meaning, people expect very different things from a player. Small players are always a pain to navigate but they are small, and large player well they are large :) 14.56.05 # the zenxfi3 feels fragile, I like the haptics of my h300 much more 14.58.16 # the touch buttons of the zenxfi3 are not great. 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Player mounts most of the time, reading also seems to be working but writing to the device causes I/O errors and disconnect. One time player froze with black screen and hard reset was needed. This is on linux machine. 22.34.39 Quit heartagram_616 (Quit: Page closed) 22.46.07 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 22.49.33 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 22.55.42 # Horrorcat: I am looking at the zenxfi3 problem, I was thinking about it: when the display goes weird in bootloader mode, what is the value displayed in parenthesis ? (that's the voltage) 23.01.16 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]) 23.02.29 # Horrorcat: I spotted some potentially wrong values in the battery calibration curve of the zenxfi3, that might explain the problem: rockbox thinks the battery suddently became super low and does an emergency shutdown. Still a theory but the curve is definitely fishy 23.16.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.30.15 # Horrorcat: I also find some suspicious code that powers off the chip, apparently my code was wrong from the start but seemed to work anyway, I'm a bit confused to he honest ^^ 23.32.49 # in fact I just realized there are several potential problems with the power off code :-/ 23.34.40 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 23.40.35 Quit Guest85177 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23.42.52 Join Guest85177 [0] (~Slayer@c-69-255-136-113.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 23.43.24 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 23.44.08 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@99-138-109-34.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 23.45.03 # Horrorcat: it would be nice if you could try g#1341 23.45.04 # 3Gerrit review #1341 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1341 : 3imx233: fix power off code by Amaury Pouly 23.48.51 Quit ender` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.49.12 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org)