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https://fnordserver.eu) 15.06.30 Join myki [0] (5c2ad92a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.42.217.42) 15.11.08 # Hi, I hope some of you are waken up and will be able to answer my question :) (French here so sorry for my english). I would like to buy an MP3 reader which don't use a database to store the songs. So I wish a device that supports Rockbox as much as possible, and that is foundable in shops :) (I regret my Sansas). Can you give me advices, please ? :) thanks in advance 15.20.58 # The only one that comes to mine right now is the NWE-E380, which is supported by rockbox (except for the radio). Unfortunately I would not call it a very good device but I leave that to you. If you are not afraid to by from refurbished/second-hand sources, there is more choice. There might be options on the ipod side, I don't know much about them 15.21.56 # There is also work in progress to support the Fiio X1 but not finished. There is an unofficial port to the Xduoo X3 but until I clean it up and integrate it, it is not officially supported by Rockbox 15.22.10 # (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51139.0.html) 15.23.28 # Thanks for responding pamaury, and thanks for all your work. It sounds interesting, I should wait a couple of months, and see what happened for these new devices... I have found somewhere here, an old creative Zen x-fi (the number 1) 15.23.58 # Scared to install, but it is taking dust anyway :) 15.24.12 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 15.24.17 # the X-Fi is supported by Rockbox 15.24.40 # one drawback is that you will have to wipe at the storage and can't really dualboot 15.25.09 # you cannot brick the device anyway so you are not really taking any risk 15.27.25 # yes I've read it, I don't want to use the Official FW anyway, I don't want to use any device and firmware using database... I actually used a sandisk Sport+ (something like that) and is not usable if you put to much songs on it, as it has to rebuild the database even if you add only one song in it... 15.27.45 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 15.28.31 # and it takes so much time to build this database that it's getting ridiculous :) 15.29.19 # yeah that's very annoying on many devices 15.31.00 # (the creative is charging, I will stay here in case something goes wrong, but I am confident :) ) 15.40.28 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 15.40.34 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 15.41.11 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@xd9bafe78.dyn.telefonica.de) 15.43.20 Quit fs-bluebot_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 15.57.08 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.01.41 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 16.06.16 Join soadkombucha [0] (dennis@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-nuykabfcenhkpxgs) 16.06.16 Quit soadkombucha (Changing host) 16.06.16 Join soadkombucha [0] (dennis@unaffiliated/soadkombucha) 16.06.16 Quit soadkombucha (Changing host) 16.06.16 Join soadkombucha [0] (dennis@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-nuykabfcenhkpxgs) 16.14.05 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 16.17.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.48.19 # Is something already released for the very interesting Fiio X1 ? I didn't find a link 16.55.02 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 17.24.07 Quit paulk-aldrin (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.29.30 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.31.44 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-244-126.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 17.35.39 Join paulk-aldrin [0] (~paulk@armstrong.paulk.fr) 17.37.30 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 17.44.20 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.48.16 Quit paulk-aldrin (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.49.19 Join paulk-aldrin [0] (~paulk@armstrong.paulk.fr) 17.51.20 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@77.116.36.216.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 17.58.08 Join mokkurkalve [0] (~mokkurkal@164.191.251.212.customer.cdi.no) 18.01.25 Quit elensil (Quit: Leaving.) 18.01.34 # I have not had this problem before. Sansa e200 latest dev build. Random folder advance config does not honor content of /.rockbox/folder_advance_list.txt but adds every directory on device to the list.... anybody have any idea? 18.02.03 Quit chrisb (Remote host closed the connection) 18.04.07 # ! eivind@audhumla:/run/media/eivind/SANSA E260/.rockbox$ cat folder_advance_list.txt 18.04.10 # ! / 18.04.12 # ! /Lyd 18.04.40 # The !'s are to be able to paste here.... 18.07.58 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 18.14.12 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 18.14.34 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 18.16.37 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 18.16.49 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 18.17.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.18.53 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 18.19.16 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 18.20.57 Quit maruk (Quit: Leaving.) 18.25.22 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 18.25.46 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 18.33.08 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 18.33.39 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 18.37.49 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 18.38.09 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 18.40.12 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 18.40.39 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 18.42.34 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 18.42.49 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 18.43.46 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:560:f875:6ee9:1988) 19.05.31 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@145.133.43.230) 19.13.37 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 19.14.02 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 19.14.31 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p578F7B2C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.22.14 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 19.22.47 Quit Petri152 (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 19.23.29 Join Petri152 [0] (~Petri@petritrebs.ca) 19.26.02 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19.26.08 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 19.28.47 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 19.29.18 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 19.30.40 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-176-213.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.35.00 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 19.35.16 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 19.43.19 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 19.43.31 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 19.47.38 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 19.47.52 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 19.53.48 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 19.54.09 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 19.56.10 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 19.56.31 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 20.01.52 # myki: no it's work in progress 20.08.49 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 20.09.03 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@47.89.8.175) 20.09.13 Join girafe [0] (~girafe@LFbn-1-8020-64.w90-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.13.08 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 20.13.30 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 20.17.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.36.52 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.00.33 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.08.48 # I need some help please, with my Creative Zen x-fi... I could install the new firmware, could "reload" it from the recovery menu, now it has been rebooted while I have plugged the usb port... But in windows, the creative appears under mobile devices, not as an usb mass storage, so that I can't choose FAT32 format. What's wrong, can you help me, please ? 21.10.52 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 21.12.25 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 21.19.15 # myki: when it boots, do you get the rockbox bootloader or the creative one ? 21.19.19 # (just to be sure) 21.19.30 # If I try to send the new firmware again, it stops sending at 14% and try to send again and again 21.19.55 # no pamaury, I just get a "firmware problem" and go straight to the recovery 21.20.42 # It's the creative one 21.21.15 # ok so that means the firmware is not install, you can't do anything with the device until you manage to install the new firmware. 21.21.25 # First, do we agree that it is this device: http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=213&CatName=MP3+Players&prodID=17810&prodName=ZEN+X-Fi+8GB 21.22.05 # yes it is 21.22.33 # ok, which install procedure are you following exactly ? 21.23.02 # (you are using windows I assume ?) 21.24.03 # this one http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZENPort#Semi_45automatic_method_40Windows_41 with the files from this one http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZENXFiPort 21.24.45 # with sendfirm.exe and firmware-zenxfi.nk (and the dll) 21.24.48 # ok good 21.25.09 # and yes, with windows 8.1 21.25.20 # so you enter recovery, press reload, and then use sendfirm. And then it gets stuck at 14% you say ? 21.26.05 # not really stucked, it goes to 14% and then go to 0%, until 14 etc... 21.26.32 # hum, and it never ends ? 21.27.57 # The first time I sent the firmware, it went to 100% successfully but at reboot, I got a firmware failure, went automatically to recovery, then I pushed reload firmware 21.28.21 # now if I try to push the firmware again, I can't go further from 14% 21.29.02 # this is odd 21.29.45 # I don't know if it can help but now if I connect it to the pc, the disk appears to be just 60Mb 21.31.11 # May be I could try to send the original firmware ? 21.32.09 # yes that would be helpful. 60MB in Media Devices you mean ? I think that's expended (I have never windows but that's how it is supposed to work) 21.32.20 # I don't know how if there is a copy of the OF in my dropbox though 21.32.59 # I cross my fingers.. 21.33.47 # I've found this file ZENXFI_PCFW_L22_1_04_08e_rk.bin but it's a .bin, I don't know if I can use it with sendfirm.exe ? 21.33.57 # yes, that's the file 21.34.05 # is it in my dropbox ? 21.34.25 # yes, I've found it from the thread about the zen x-fi 21.34.59 # but you were talking about another exe file to push this firmware, and then I was a bit confused 21.36.03 # in the worst case scenario, you can Creative's program to restore the OF, but it cannot upload rockbox, so let's forget about it for now. Try to use sendfirm and ZENXFI_PCFW_L22_1_04_08e_rk.bin 21.36.35 # ok 21.38.02 # it's doing the same, at 14.8% to be more precise, is it possible that the old firmware remains, like a disk full preventing a new copy ? (sorry for my english) 21.38.28 # that's possible, but normally "reload firmware" is supposed to completely erase it 21.39.18 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 21.39.35 # That's were I was wrong ! I didn't reload the first time. I used sendfirm without select "reload firmware" before 21.40.38 # ah, then it will not work 21.40.53 # try again with reload 21.41.59 # it said "eraising firmware" and "update firmware now". 21.42.07 # Now I try with sendfirm 21.43.40 # it stops at 14.8% 21.44.28 # You talked me about a creative tool to recover the ofw, do you mean that I will never be able to install rockbox after using it ? 21.45.43 # no, just this tool can only install the OF, not rockbox 21.46.03 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 21.46.13 # maybe try rebooting the device after you erase the firmware ? 21.46.18 # this 14% is strange 21.46.37 # yes, 14.8% on both firmware 21.46.55 # It could sound stupid, but I can try to reboot my pc ?? 21.47.25 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 21.47.29 Quit paulk-aldrin (Quit: Leaving) 21.47.34 # I doubt it but you can always try 21.48.04 # stay here please... lol (I try to reboot now) 21.52.34 Quit myki (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 21.54.25 Join myki [0] (5c2ad92a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.42.217.42) 21.54.48 # I'm back... I try again 21.55.54 # ......firmware sent successfuly ! Damn ! 21.56.18 # Do I select "reload firmware" now ? 21.56.42 # no no, if you successfully sent the firmware, just reboot the devide 21.56.44 # *device 21.56.49 # ok 21.57.08 # "Reload firmware" does not "reload", it simply "erases". I never understood why they call it like this 21.57.43 # I am stupid ! I sent the firmware with the creative disconnected.... lol 21.57.57 # haha, not very useful indeed 21.58.23 # that's strange that I didn't get an error message, where did the firmware go ?? lol 21.58.45 # ok now "docked" 21.58.53 # maybe not finding a device was considered ok ^^ 21.59.45 # no miracle... it tries again at 14.8% a couple of time, and then I get an error message 22.00.33 # ??? it finally worked ! 22.00.54 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@145.133.43.230) 22.01.06 # ok, so now reboot the device ? 22.01.34 # at some point it stopped at 9.6% and then said "successfull" now it asks me to format, I choose FAT32, right ? 22.01.50 # yes 22.03.07 # ok now I copy the .rockbox folder to the root 22.04.20 # done... I suppose that now I'm safe to reboot ? 22.04.33 # yes 22.04.44 # don't forget to "safely eject" 22.05.07 # (I was about to disconnect like a barbarian, thanks for the reminder) 22.06.21 # I am in Rockbox... It rocks :) (yes I'm the 1 255 157 101 who did that joke) 22.06.32 # :) now enjoy 22.06.49 # myki: i always enjoy that one :) 22.06.54 # I'm really happy, thank you very much for your help... a last question, I didn't understand the part about the batery recharging 22.07.12 # which part ? 22.08.45 # If I understand well, I can charge the battery, only in recovery mode ? 22.09.09 # hum, I hope not !! where did you read that ? 22.09.14 # (or else it's clearly a bug) 22.10.31 # I don't remember lol that's clearly the kind of thing tha happened to me because of my aproximative english... anyway, if I meet a bug not in the page, I will report it 22.11.06 # If I want to boot with the ofw, what do I have to do ? 22.11.19 # there devices that used to have a problem with very low battery but this one should not suffer from it. 22.11.25 # short answer: you can't use the OF 22.11.35 # ok 22.11.40 # the OF doesn't understand FAT32 :-/ 22.11.59 # too standard for Creative 22.12.09 # exactly :) 22.13.39 # :) now I will wait for the release of Rockbox on fiio x1, it seems that this reader is able to update it database only on demand (so never for me) and use folders. It could be fine to me, to wait rockbox in serenity :) 22.15.13 # My best rockbox experience was on my Sansa Fuze v2, with themes... :) 22.16.08 # I was so disappointed when I read that it was technicaly impossible to develop rockbox on Sansa Clip Sport 22.17.00 # may be one day, a reader with rockbox aboard ? :) 22.17.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.21.04 # Can I use some themes, with my creative zen x-fi ? 22.22.53 # yes 22.23.01 # screen size probably limits the choice 22.23.27 # any device here: http://themes.rockbox.org/ with the same screen size will work 22.25.53 # you can use http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?allthemes 22.25.59 # and search for 320x240 22.28.20 # ok, thank you pamaury 22.39.42 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 22.40.00 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@176.253.18.1) 22.40.00 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 22.40.00 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 22.52.58 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 22.58.15 Join TheEaterOfSouls [0] (~chatzilla@66.172.117.241) 22.59.16 Part TheEaterOfSouls 23.13.47 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0.1/20160623154057]) 23.24.22 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-85-190.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 23.28.57 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 23.47.13 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.58.01 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)