--- Log for 19.09.116 Server: karatkievich.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 2 hours ago 00.01.54 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.04.19 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.07.14 Quit gaming_ (Quit: Page closed) 00.44.55 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.52.04 Quit ender` (Quit: I will not outsource core functions. — Evil Overlord List #179) 00.57.32 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.59.30 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 01.01.04 Quit girafe (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.19.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.01.04 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.22.20 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 02.24.03 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02.24.12 Quit gevaerts (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02.56.42 Quit __builtin (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 03.02.48 Join __builtin [0] (~xray@cpe-75-177-76-62.triad.res.rr.com) 03.06.37 Quit __builtin (Client Quit) 03.09.36 Join __builtin [0] (~xray@cpe-75-177-76-62.triad.res.rr.com) 03.11.18 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 03.13.10 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 03.13.43 Quit __builtin (Client Quit) 03.19.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.26.25 Join __builtin [0] (~xray@cpe-75-177-76-62.triad.res.rr.com) 04.46.04 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 04.46.48 Join JanC_ [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 04.47.53 Nick JanC is now known as Guest19696 (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 04.47.53 Nick JanC_ is now known as JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 04.49.29 Quit Guest19696 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.56.59 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05.06.33 Quit smoke_fumus (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 05.19.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.37.39 Quit Petri152 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 06.00.03 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.13.45 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213.47.41.20) 06.44.42 Quit [7] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.45.02 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 07.19.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.34.17 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.41.31 Nick shadows is now known as shadow (~lucent@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-ocybbemtephwdzcm) 07.48.49 Nick shadow is now known as jnc (~lucent@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-ocybbemtephwdzcm) 07.48.55 Nick jnc is now known as shadow (~lucent@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-ocybbemtephwdzcm) 07.51.34 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 07.52.33 Part shadow 07.57.24 # can rockbox handle a 2k+ dynamic playlist? 08.02.14 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@145.133.43.230) 08.16.08 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.18.19 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.18.19 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.19.14 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.24.09 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.37.42 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) 08.38.52 Join idonob [0] (~Owner@S010610c37b922980.vs.shawcable.net) 08.46.41 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.48.59 Quit edhelas (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.50.01 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@145.133.43.230) 08.53.03 Quit edhelas (Client Quit) 09.02.07 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) 09.19.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.31.01 Quit The_Prospector|2 (Quit: when in doubt, kernel panic) 09.31.21 Join The_Prospector [0] (~The_Prosp@unaffiliated/cornman) 09.38.11 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09.45.21 Join elensil [0] (~edhelas@2001:1c02:1903:d800:2d19:dedb:164f:1448) 09.53.42 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 09.59.03 Join paulk-veyron-min [0] (~paulk@147.210.204.186) 10.13.43 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 10.14.14 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 10.14.27 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@unaffiliated/n17ikh) 10.14.29 Join MrZeus [0] (~MrZeus@81.144.218.162) 10.14.38 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 10.16.38 Quit paulk-veyron-min (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 10.18.22 Join paulk-veyron-min [0] (~paulk@147.210.204.186) 10.40.14 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@193.85.203.185) 10.55.48 Quit paulk-veyron-min (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.07.14 Join paulk-veyron-min [0] (~paulk@147.210.204.186) 11.11.33 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.12.37 Quit paulk-veyron-min (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 11.19.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.20.24 Join paulk-veyron-min [0] (~paulk@147.210.204.186) 11.28.58 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:a4c6:16:591b:42dd) 11.37.46 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 11.49.05 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@193.85.203.185) 11.54.28 Quit duo8 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 11.56.01 Quit knittl (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 11.56.42 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 11.58.47 Join duo8 [0] (~ZNC-SRV-H@116.107.158.100) 12.05.39 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.06.59 Quit paulk-veyron-min (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 12.26.27 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.48.15 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 12.51.44 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.58.32 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 13.09.05 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 13.15.29 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.19.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.39.39 # duo8: re playlist: no idea, that's a good question actually. I suggest you try it. Otherwise I'll try to have a look at the code 14.28.50 Quit hoshi (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.30.16 Join hoshi [0] (~hoshi@acge236.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 14.51.01 Join nick_p [0] (~nick_p@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 14.51.19 # Looks like Fiio X1 ver 2 will be Linux based: http://www.head-fi.org/t/819817/fiio-x1-ii-2nd-gen-w-bluetooth/90#post_12874239 14.52.38 Quit duo8 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.57.04 # nick_p: thanks for the info 15.00.56 # There's also some interesting stuff in that thread about the touch-based scroll wheel: http://www.head-fi.org/t/819817/fiio-x1-ii-2nd-gen-w-bluetooth/75#post_12871990 15.03.19 Join duo8 [0] (~ZNC-SRV-H@116.107.158.100) 15.07.36 Join Petri152 [0] (~Petri@petritrebs.ca) 15.19.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.23.33 Quit duo8 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.38.22 Join duo8 [0] (~ZNC-SRV-H@116.107.158.100) 15.47.18 Join paulk-collins [0] (~paulk@gagarine.paulk.fr) 15.47.52 Quit toli (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.53.45 Join toli [0] (~toli@ip-62-235-214-113.dsl.scarlet.be) 15.58.01 # I really need to hurry with the Fiio X1 port 16.04.44 Quit elensil (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16.06.56 Quit Moarc (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 16.07.27 Join cereal_killer [0] (3e2fb2f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.47.178.248) 16.09.29 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 16.09.38 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 16.09.39 # As the latest builds for the Cowon D2 do not work (panics), I could try to find out which commit did break the builds by compiling old builds. Would this be a good idea. Any other suggestions to help debugging? 16.11.20 # following the discussion here http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20160514#17:00:19 I am sure that this is not within my capabilities 16.13.10 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@193.85.203.185) 16.14.27 # cereal_killer: finding the first broken commit is always useful. Finding out more details is better of course, but every bit helps 16.16.06 # thanks for your answer gevaerts. don't know if this information was recognized http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20160515#13:59:11 16.16.43 # Hmmm 16.16.56 Join elensil [0] (~edhelas@2001:1c02:1903:d800:2d19:dedb:164f:1448) 16.17.07 # a question to compiling: to check out old versions I use git checkout , right? 16.17.23 # That makes me suspect the JhMikeS' filesystem rework... 16.17.41 # Yes, although for your specific use (finding the bad one) there's also git bisect 16.17.44 Quit amayer (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.18.31 # is the 7 digit number of the devbuilds, right? 16.18.35 # Yes 16.19.26 # Well, technically those are the first 7 digits of the actual hash which is longer, and git accepts any length that's "long enough" 16.19.48 # 7 digits usually are long enough 16.22.04 # What git bisect does is automate the entire process. You tell it the hash of a known good commit, and the hash of a known bad commit, and it then checks out versions in between and asks you whether that one is good or bad until it found the cut-off 16.22.16 # Nothing you can't do yourself of course, but it's handy 16.22.27 # I see. reading https://git-scm.com/docs/git-bisect right now... 16.23.41 # this is totally new to me. I feel comfortable with manually compile old build and find the first non working one, but maybe I give bisect a try (leraning something new is always appealing) 16.27.46 Quit duo8 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16.32.08 Join duo8 [0] (~ZNC-SRV-H@116.107.158.100) 16.33.12 # gevaerts: dou you mean this: http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=7d1a47cf13726c95ac46027156cc12dd9da5b855 16.33.46 # cereal_killer: yes. Unless you tell me that's much too early :) 16.35.44 # The reason being that update_fsinfo32() is about updating FAT data on disk, and the D2 being read-only, and that commit changing a lot of filesystem-related things 16.36.48 # I use a build from july 2013 which works. I think I realized that builds were broken around beginning of 2015. there is also a bugreport from april 2015: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/13042 16.37.19 # OK, so the timeframe still allows that one 16.37.56 # OK, I see. 16.38.06 # As far as I can see it was pushed to rockbox in august 2014 16.41.05 # so I try the builds before and after that commit and see waht happens. 16.42.16 # Yes. From looking at that bug report and the code I'm 99% certain it's that 16.42.53 # The basic problem being that rockbox doesn't actually handle read-only disks. It mostly worked before, but that was mostly by accident, really 16.44.43 # One thing you could try is commenting out (or deleting) everything in update_fsinfo32() in firmware/drivers/fat.c, so it does nothing at all 16.46.07 Quit nick_p (Quit: Leaving) 16.46.55 # Hmmm, that's probably not enough 16.48.53 # ok, will try and report back asap, but could you specify which lines please? I am close to unfamiliar with the code. 16.49.13 # I'll give you another set that's more likely to be useful :) 16.49.53 # In dc_writeback_callback() in fat.c, remove the block around panicf(). I'll put a patch on a pastebin 16.50.04 # sounds great :-) 16.50.14 # http://paste.debian.net/829753/ 16.50.38 # So near line 365 16.51.28 # I suspect that may be enough to make disk writes as "sloppy" as before, i.e. without any real checking 16.51.46 # So things should be back to working by accident :) 16.52.15 # Proper support for read-only disks would be better, although proper write support would be even better than that of course... 16.54.54 Quit duo8 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.58.31 # Ok, I will try that. Yes, it's a pity that the D2 never made it to stable. 17.06.11 Join duo8 [0] (~ZNC-SRV-H@116.107.158.100) 17.09.56 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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