--- Log for 28.10.116 Server: karatkievich.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 20 days and 2 hours ago 00.04.13 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 00.11.21 Join xza23 [0] (5f23ca1e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.35.202.30) 00.11.43 Quit xza23 (Client Quit) 00.13.19 Join xza23 [0] (5f23ca1e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.35.202.30) 00.13.32 # Thanks Pamaury :) 00.18.09 Quit xza23 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.21.49 Join Kruppt [0] (~Krupptus@50.111.39.27) 00.27.35 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 00.29.02 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 00.32.45 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 00.33.58 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@2001-18e8-2-28cc-f000-59a.dhcp6-bl.indiana.edu) 00.36.49 Quit krabador (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.39.00 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 00.51.05 Quit ender` (Quit: Any fool can use a computer. Many do. — Ted Nelson) 01.01.59 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.11.11 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 01.13.16 Part robertd1 01.16.41 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@149-160-181-247.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) 01.20.27 Quit Kruppt (Quit: Leaving) 01.43.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.12.10 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.12.10 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 02.14.27 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.16.39 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 02.30.39 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 03.16.35 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 03.24.28 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.37.44 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@77.117.81.138.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 03.42.43 Join Geogaddi [0] (cba16a2e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.161.106.46) 03.43.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.45.05 # Hey all. Looking for some help with my new iFlash modded iPod. I've used the instructions on freemyipod.org with the v8-designware beta . Rockbox is running fine but when I go to boot into apple disc mode it freezes and hangs on the Apple logo. I've done some searching but cant find any info. Using a 128gb sd card if that changes anything. Thanks in advance :) 03.45.26 # ipod 6.5/7g btw (A1238) 03.49.48 # nevermind, seems that i was just timing it incorrectly, weird that it still showed the apple logo. cheers anyway ;P 03.50.16 Quit Geogaddi (Quit: Page closed) 04.40.29 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 05.04.27 Quit Tristitia (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.17.15 Join Tristitia [0] (~tristitia@static-ip-69-64-50-196.inaddr.ip-pool.com) 05.43.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.47.59 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05.54.05 Quit The_Prospector|2 (Quit: when in doubt, kernel panic) 05.56.18 Join The_Prospector [0] (~The_Prosp@unaffiliated/cornman) 06.00.22 Quit soap (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.01.30 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 06.47.24 Quit Guest7162 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.47.39 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.47.56 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.56.40 Join Guest7162 [0] (~Slayer@c-68-33-117-184.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 07.03.17 Quit Guest7162 (Write error: Connection reset by peer) 07.03.45 Join Guest7162 [0] (~Slayer@c-68-33-117-184.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 07.09.06 Quit Guest7162 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07.14.14 Join CrashBash-Kun [0] (~CrashBash@unaffiliated/crashbash-kun) 07.15.15 Quit CrashBash-Kun (Client Quit) 07.20.53 Quit toli (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07.22.05 Join Guest7162 [0] (~Slayer@c-68-33-117-184.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 07.27.39 Join toli [0] (~toli@ip-62-235-241-125.dsl.scarlet.be) 07.28.44 Quit Guest7162 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07.30.33 Join Guest7162 [0] (~Slayer@c-68-33-117-184.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 07.43.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.01.30 Quit amiconn (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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I can send you builds to test (or I can tell you which one to build) 20.31.06 # ok 20.31.53 # if you send it'd be easier 20.32.01 # i didn't yet get to building 20.32.56 # sure, see you later then. Can you just tell me/find out the revision of that build from 2013 ? It should be printed in the System > Info menu I think 20.33.15 # sure, one sec 20.35.13 # 15fa7f8-130605 20.36.25 # thanks 20.37.30 # cryham: so git tells me we will need to test around 10 builds to successfully bisect 20.38.18 # I will send them to you, you try them carefully, if necessary many times and tell me if it works or not 20.38.22 # building the first one... 20.38.30 # okay 20.41.05 # cryham: also when you test them, I suggest you always reboot the device between tests 20.41.24 # so power off and on 20.41.39 # AND confirm the version in System > Info menu 20.41.44 # ok 20.41.50 # to avoid any mistake ;) (did that once) 20.42.04 # right 20.42.34 # https://www.dropbox.com/s/5m16te9yjojhvd7/rockbox_331bf690.zip?dl=0 20.42.46 # (the version is the hex string in the name) 20.43.51 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 2 seconds at the last flood 20.43.51 # * pamaury is looking at Sony's list of MP3 devices, their naming makes litteraly no sense, sometimes NWZ, sometimes NW, and why A,B,E,X,Z series ? And why sometimes there is an F at the end??? 20.45.55 # hmm so i just renamed .rockbox to .rockbox- and copied the .rockbox from archive here 20.46.09 # plugged out usb power off and on 20.46.20 # and weirdly i see my previous version still 20.46.56 # are you sure you extracted the new archive and it created a .rockbox directory? 20.47.16 # yes 20.47.46 # cryham: try erasing .rockbox and re-unpack ? 20.47.50 # ah wait 20.47.57 # just plugged in usb 20.48.07 # and i see other named drive 20.48.37 # yeah probably did that on memory card 20.49.02 Join robertd1 [0] (~as@190.79.217.91) 20.49.14 # ok got the new one 20.49.15 # robertd1: I have some news 20.49.33 # hi, tell me :) 20.50.05 # I looked into some binary on the nwz and found some useful information. First I found a very complete list of devices and I now know how to can tell the exact model from the npv. Also I found a list of destination 20.50.37 # If you have your devices at hands and a work scsitool, I'd like to test if my theory is right 20.51.08 # sure lets test it 20.51.09 # to build scsitool, go to utils/nwztools/scsitools/ and run "make clean" and "make" 20.51.47 # done 20.52.05 # then "give" the device to virtualbox, and assuming it appears as /dev/sdx, run: 20.52.05 # sudo ./scsitool /dev/sdx get_dnk_nvp shp 20.52.34 # You should get something like: 20.52.35 # Node: 20.52.35 # 03 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ................ 20.52.35 DBUG Enqueued KICK pamaury 20.52.35 # ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ................ 20.52.49 # I am interesting only in the first 8 values (bytes) 20.53.10 # yes that it is correct 03 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 20.54.47 # can you try two different devices with different destination? 20.55.15 # pamaury you mean in the fiio? 20.55.22 # hold on one sec please 20.55.25 # no I mean other nwz 20.55.43 # I remember you telling me that you had a nwz from the US 20.58.22 # no, lol my brother bought the same device in the us. I can ask him to try 21.03.02 # robertd1: do you know if there is any place in the interface where I can read the destination? I can try to write a tool to modify the destination, see if it makes a difference 21.03.58 # the only place is in the service menu 21.04.28 # is that the one you access with a magic key combination? 21.04.45 # yes that one 21.05.27 # ok, I will give it a try 21.05.40 # in the page of the nwz i posted a link to the service manual 21.07.14 # page 14 setting the test mode 21.07.33 Join Kruppt [0] (~Krupptus@50.111.39.27) 21.12.27 # robertd1: can't you use this to change the destination? 21.12.45 # not it is not possible to modify 21.13.44 # which model do you own pamaury 21.14.27 # NWZ-E463 21.14.33 # so mine says CEW [SPS: On] 21.14.41 # it is capped 21.15.17 # in page 6 of the manual explains the procedure of setting the dest 21.16.13 # pamaury: this version works 21.16.19 # it's a bit strange 21.16.42 # cryham: ok, let me build the next one 21.16.47 # what is strange? 21.16.52 # since this is latest right 21.17.02 # 20161028 21.17.24 # no that's the build date ;) 21.17.29 # ah 21.23.07 # robertd1: destination have weird names: u, u2, u3 and cew, cew2 21.23.12 # do you know what the number means? 21.25.12 # in the manual u is the us, cew aep uk and the settings are eq none and sp output optimizer 21.26.18 # some people claim that changing the fm frequencies alters the destination. It wont stay after exiting test menu 21.26.43 # yeah but what is u compared to u2? They are both US 21.27.34 # i presume is the default setting for each mode settings with eq on and sp on 21.28.11 # what is sp? 21.29.14 # the limit of the sound *sound pressure regulation 21.30.25 # hum, from the code it is unclear if the sound pressure is related to destination or not, those might be independent 21.30.58 # cryham: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dlrs0clk1y22uf6/rockbox-c5933f4.zip?dl=0 21.30.59 # in our devices the sp is on and not optimized 21.33.25 # the level for EU is 25 in other models is 30 21.35.46 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 21.36.06 # so from the code it seems that the first 4 bytes of shp give the destination. The destination is split into two: the lower bytes gives the general destination and the other byte is more specific, probably gives the default settings. For example U is 1 (ie 01 00 00 00) but U2 is 0x101 (ie 01 01 00 00), U3 is 0x201 and CA is 0x301 (so it's kind of U4 in fact) 21.37.12 # similarly, E is 6 but MX3 is 0x106 (which makes sense, Mexico is a variant of Spain) 21.38.32 # in the service manual it mentions even a tourist model which has more radio frequencies 21.38.44 # and the next 4 bytes control sound pressure: 0 is no limit, 1 is limit 21.39.00 # identified as E 21.39.22 Join alexweis_ [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 21.39.37 # well shipment information has more bytes, they are all FF on mine but maybe they have some used in other countries 21.39.57 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 21.42.26 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 21.42.26 # * pamaury writes a dest/sps changer tool 21.43.03 # that explains the different numbers the us has 4 settings 21.43.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.44.26 # u,u2, u2 sp , and u sp 21.45.06 # yeah sp is independent of destination 21.46.50 Quit paulk-aldrin (Remote host closed the connection) 21.47.13 # pamaury sp in the us the level is 30, in the EU it is 25 . The manual expressly says that the destination and sound pressure are written in the nand flash 21.49.38 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.51.17 # pamaury: works 21.51.41 # cryham: ok building next one 21.52.59 # i do wonder if the new models are capped or give the user the choice of removing it 21.53.27 Join paulk-aldrin [0] (~paulk@armstrong.paulk.fr) 21.58.03 # from the code it seems the cap still exists 21.58.27 # but maybe there is an option for it, who knows 21.58.57 # cryham: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q4k9gc4c4a5jrvz/rockbox-6b9610f.zip?dl=0 22.17.03 # pamaury: works too 22.17.36 # cryham: ok, building next one 22.18.00 # not sure how long should i test, but if it was broken like before it would freeze 22.18.13 # tried on and off 5 times at least 22.18.51 # nvp wrldr 22.19.14 # ok, well at least if we can narrow it down to a bunch of commits, that would be helpful 22.24.44 # cryham: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tuasj95cog5bsml/rockbox-2d850b7.zip?dl=0 22.27.54 # I havent notice that the update comes with its own scitool and parameters 0xfc 0 0x03 0x64 0x62 0x6d 0x6e 0 0 0 0 0 22.31.47 # I noticed that, it looks like a different scsi command, I guess to trigger the upgrade, but it doesn't match what I reversed engineered 22.33.01 # i had yet to find where the update checks the destination 22.35.06 # I doubt the upgrade script touches that, at least not in a script 22.37.20 # I am writing the destination changer tool 22.39.13 # that service menu must be the equivalent of the plattools 22.39.41 Quit alexweis_ (Remote host closed the connection) 22.40.26 # yeah more or less 22.51.35 Quit paulk-aldrin (Remote host closed the connection) 22.54.07 # pamaury: works 22.54.34 # how far is this since 2013 22.57.04 # cryham: ok, building. This one was around may 2016 22.57.32 # ok 22.58.19 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.58.51 # cryham: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kzz7i4wwbbs30dj/rockbox-e4af973.zip?dl=0 22.59.15 # but bisecting is not linear in time. We had a many more commits recently that we had in 2015 for example, thus the big jump in time 22.59.46 # robertd1: I have a tool that can display dest and sps 22.59.49 # now to changing it... 23.00.17 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 23.01.12 # that is incredible! 23.02.26 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 23.02.55 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 23.11.18 Quit JanC (Remote host closed the connection) 23.11.31 Join JanC_ [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 23.11.33 Quit bzed (Write error: Broken pipe) 23.11.47 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@shell.bzed.at) 23.12.46 Nick JanC_ is now known as JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 23.13.58 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 23.15.42 Quit smoke_fumus (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 23.18.01 # ah 23.18.05 Quit Kruppt (Quit: Leaving) 23.18.10 # pamaury: works too 23.18.52 # i'm gonna go to bed now, i should be tomorrow around same time 23.19.34 # ok good 23.19.37 # we are getting closer! 23.22.32 # robertd1: I have a working tool 23.22.34 # going to commit 23.23.02 # For now the tool has a white list of devices, because some devices uses different NVP nodes, so I whitelisted my device and yours 23.23.47 # Great, Ill try it asap ! 23.29.55 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision ad9a2d5, 255 builds, 14 clients. 23.30.02 # robertd1: committed 23.30.55 # rebasing right now 23.31.36 # build as usual: make in plattools, and then 23.31.37 # make exec_file ELF=../plattols/dest_tool.elf NWZ_TARGET=nwz-a86x UPG=dest_tool_a86x.upg 23.31.37 # and then copy and upgrade 23.37.46 # strange, one sec please 23.39.28 # not running hold on 23.39.45 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 590 seconds. 23.39.46 # Build Server message: 3Revision ad9a2d5 result: All green 23.43.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"