--- Log for 13.11.116 Server: karatkievich.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 6 days ago 00.00.16 Quit paulk-collins (Quit: Leaving) 00.04.47 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]) 00.17.29 Join nathan_ [0] (470966f7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.9.102.247) 00.17.54 # is there a way to increase the scrolling speed in pictureflow? it's painfully slow 00.23.31 Quit girafe (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.26.40 Join athidhep [0] (~afoakf@S0106602ad06acd48.vc.shawcable.net) 00.32.09 Quit nathan_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.41.00 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 00.43.56 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.51.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.59.14 Quit Bilgus (Quit: Page closed) 01.56.59 Quit ender` (Quit: Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Seneca) 02.24.42 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.27.38 Quit athidhep (Quit: athidhep) 02.37.33 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@77.116.96.6.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 02.44.28 Quit cc___ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02.49.56 Quit toli (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 02.51.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.57.19 Join toli [0] (~toli@62.235.64.222) 03.05.07 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 03.08.05 Join athidhep [0] (~afoakf@S0106602ad06acd48.vc.shawcable.net) 04.01.43 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 04.49.31 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.51.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.03.06 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 05.22.28 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-185-163.mcn.bellsouth.net) 05.24.44 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06.11.05 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 06.11.14 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.25.27 Quit Ivoah (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.25.44 Quit marex-cloud (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.36.55 Join Ivoah [0] (uid49352@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vtuysdwhrbabcavk) 06.38.46 Join marex-cloud [0] (sid137234@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gfcbtykpoetzuhgg) 06.51.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.04.27 Quit Moarc (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.04.48 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 07.13.41 # emmc and not nand? 07.39.22 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@95-43-91-2.ip.btc-net.bg) 08.08.57 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 08.50.28 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.51.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.56.16 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.00.49 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 09.12.04 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@pD95643CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.33.17 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@95-43-91-2.ip.btc-net.bg) 09.35.39 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 09.37.06 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 09.38.28 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09.48.30 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.59.33 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) 10.11.30 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 10.14.18 Join paulk-collins [0] (~paulk@gagarine.paulk.fr) 10.33.42 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@ren77-h01-176-151-188-9.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 10.47.21 Quit xorly (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.47.26 Join xorly| [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) 10.47.33 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@ren77-h01-176-151-188-9.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 10.47.43 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 10.47.46 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@ren77-h01-176-151-188-9.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 10.51.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.54.15 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 10.57.37 Quit athidhep (Quit: athidhep) 10.57.47 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.05.38 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@45.76.202.201) 11.13.02 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~root@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 11.14.18 Join Bilgus [0] (41ba23be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.186.35.190) 11.15.59 Quit xorly| (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.17.34 # gevaerts: ping 11.18.18 # I've finally managed to get a static Qt build that includes SSL support on Windows :) Some minor issues are left though 11.18.36 # also, themes.rockbox.org doesn't support SSL. Is it intended to get that changed as well? 11.22.05 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 11.26.38 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.31.00 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@pD95643CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.31.26 Join robertd1 [0] (~as@201.208.225.40) 11.42.09 Join cc___ [0] (~ac@2001:910:113f:1:6a05:caff:fe1c:1627) 11.49.23 Quit Bilgus (Quit: Page closed) 12.00.01 Join xorly| [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) 12.15.19 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.24.53 # <[Saint]> Whatever happened to new.rockbox.org? 12.25.08 # <[Saint]> It just kinda...died. 12.25.24 # <[Saint]> Despite it being very clearly better than what we have. 12.25.33 # <[Saint]> By an order of magnitude. 12.27.54 # works for me. Well, it shows something :) 12.28.02 # but it's not really functional 12.28.56 # or did you talk about development of that? 12.29.52 # <[Saint]> The latter. 12.30.15 # ah, ok. I think people couldn't agree on it, then some lost interest. 12.31.00 # <[Saint]> It needs updating to modern standards (again), but I'm all for deploying it. Always was. 12.31.43 # <[Saint]> What we have now looks like typical 90s HTML vomited at a page. 12.32.07 # not sure if I agree with the looks of new.r.o, but having a more decent website would be nice 12.32.45 # <[Saint]> And it is pretty widely regarded that people regard a project as being as professional as its site looks. 12.33.04 # <[Saint]> That being the case people must think us amateur. 12.34.21 # <[Saint]> I'm absolutely keen to work on it if we can agree I won't be wasting my time. 12.35.04 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.35.25 # well, how many (new) users do we actually get these days? 12.35.35 # <[Saint]> Does it matter? 12.36.05 # <[Saint]> Old users think it looks shit too, I guarantee it. Just Stockholm syndrome perhaps. :P 12.36.06 # maybe. The users we already have know the website, so they shouldn't care too much -- they know why they use Rockbox. 12.36.45 # and if we don't get much new users ... well, how important is the look then? People use their phones these days, and Rockbox doesn't support those. At least to a useable degree. 12.37.23 # <[Saint]> Perhaps at least in part we have low user throughout BECAUSE of this? 12.37.56 # <[Saint]> Google will be page ranking us to oblivion for having an ancient non-optimized non-mobile site. 12.38.41 # <[Saint]> It's worth it for current users for the latter alone. 12.38.57 # <[Saint]> Using the main page and forums on mobile is near impossible. 12.39.10 # true. 12.39.11 # <[Saint]> And when possible, completely unenjoyable. 12.39.37 # there's a reason why I'm not doing that ;-) (though I don't need the site when mobile) 12.43.17 # [Saint]: personally I am fine with any reasonable modern looking website, I most probably won't object any design decision 12.44.08 # Just don't turn the webpage into a full-of-javascript website that requires a 4G connection to load ;) 12.44.37 # and yes I agree our current website is not exactly state of art ^^ 12.51.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.51.45 Join cereal_killer [0] (d5a244ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.162.68.239) 12.52.10 Nick cereal_killer is now known as Guest41387 (d5a244ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.162.68.239) 12.53.09 # [Saint]: What would an iPod with Multivolume support enabled do? Would some parts of the storage be hidden from the OF then? 12.53.35 # I refer to this post: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51555.msg238321.html#msg238321 12.56.29 # <[Saint]> The OF doesn't know or case about any secondary or tertiary (etc) partitions 12.56.36 # <[Saint]> *care 13.00.50 Quit idonob (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.02.08 # the rason why I ask is if there is a way to hide partitions from the Cowon D2 OF which has a file/folder limit. I want to use the of and Rockbox, but my music collection would exceed the file/folder limt. 13.02.59 # the of definately knows and cares about the second partitions (SD-card) 13.03.01 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@95-43-91-2.ip.btc-net.bg) 13.05.34 # <[Saint]> The sdcards isn't a second partition. 13.05.56 # <[Saint]> It is a distinct volume. 13.06.29 Join idonob [0] (~Owner@S010610c37b922980.vs.shawcable.net) 13.06.49 # <[Saint]> I pretty much guarantee that if you partitioned the sdcard or internal storage into multiple volumes it wouldn't have any concept of them existing. 13.07.43 # <[Saint]> ...but then you'd need support for this in Rockbox to address N* partitions. 13.08.07 # multidrive is to support several distinct drive (internal storage vs sdcard), multivolume is support more than one filesystem on a single drive (ie two partitions on a sdcard for example) 13.08.35 # <[Saint]> Right, I suppose I'm conflating terms. 13.09.13 Quit xorly| (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.10.24 # <[Saint]> Ignoring me screwing the terms up, I would be very surprised if the Cowon OF was designed to have any concept of multiple partitions per volume. 13.11.03 # <[Saint]> It isn't within the realms of impossibility, but I would be very surprised if they specifically accounted for it and support it. 13.11.31 # oh I see. So if I partition my SD card ( a small one for the OF and a bigger one for RB) the OF would not scan the big partition and the file limit would not be exceeded? 13.11.43 # I think it is worth a try 13.12.21 # <[Saint]> pamaury: is there any reason multivolume isn't enabled by default? Is there a cost to this? 13.12.23 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.13.43 # .rockbox should then definitely be in the bigger partition. 13.14.20 # <[Saint]> It always seemed like something that was added as a hack but it seems to me it could be genuinely useful for all targets assuming there's no cost if it isn't used. 13.14.56 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.15.40 # <[Saint]> The .rockbox dir has like 300 files in or so. And it isn't immediately clear to me if this even counts towards the total file cost. 13.16.00 # <[Saint]> Afaik it only counts media files. 13.16.06 # <[Saint]> Not files total. 13.17.11 # I think mostly historical reason, it saves a bit of space, but iirc, multivolume is enabled as soon as you have more than one than one drive 13.17.21 # so really many targets have it I think 13.17.37 # [Saint]: sure, but would Rockbox handle three partitions? I thought when .rockbox is on a certain partition then it would recognize it 13.18.06 # rockbox must be on the first partition of the first drive 13.18.20 # (I think) 13.18.24 # <[Saint]> yes, that. 13.18.32 # <[Saint]> Beat me to it. 13.18.38 # pamaury: for the Cowon D2, .rockbox must be on the SD card 13.18.59 # this is not contradictory with what I said... 13.19.00 # oh, first drive is the SD card, right? 13.19.03 # <[Saint]> That's a hack, though. We can't write to the internal. 13.19.15 # <[Saint]> So, that's why it's the case there. 13.19.21 # yeah on the cowon there is hack to make sd the first drive 13.19.26 # <[Saint]> If we could, it wouldn't. 13.21.22 # ok then, as I said I give this a try 13.21.24 Join xorly| [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) 13.21.28 # thank you both 13.22.40 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.23.13 Quit idonob (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.25.27 Quit Guest41387 (Quit: Page closed) 13.25.43 Join idonob [0] (~Owner@S010610c37b922980.vs.shawcable.net) 13.27.19 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@pD95643CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.30.30 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC13C02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.33.43 Quit xorly| (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.43.37 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 13.46.36 Quit Tristitia (Remote host closed the connection) 14.02.07 # bluebrother: themes and forums are hosted by scorche|sh. Getting those to do tls would be good, but it's different management :) 14.04.40 # ok. I want to change the URLs in Rockbox Utility to https when making modifications, but then I'll have to leave themes at http 14.05.16 # scorche|sh: are there any plans for that? 14.05.32 # there are some remaining issues btw. If we link openssl we need to follow the openssl license, which means we need to reproduce the license text. That's simple, we can add a license tab in the About dialog similar to the speex one 14.06.02 # Hmmm, yes 14.06.15 # No gnutls way to do gnutls? 14.06.25 # <[Saint]> Do we even offer a hash for our downloads? It isn't a good thing at all but I feel like no one really gives a proverbial about secure transfer. 14.06.46 # <[Saint]> I mean, it'd be good, but the lack of complaints is telling. 14.07.16 # [Saint]: we don't. Well, for Windows it's a zip file which has a checksum, but since it's the same file you cannot tell if it's been tampered with. Just that the file itself isn't corrupt 14.07.19 # I mean, we do have to follow the openssl license, which means AFAIU that we need to add this "exception" to the GPL, which would mean permission from all rbutil contributors 14.08.06 # hmm, we need an exception for that? 14.08.14 # <[Saint]> I mean I'm not saying https shouldn't be deployed. Don't get me wrong. 14.08.16 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 14.08.16 # * gevaerts tries to remember details 14.08.31 # the Qt website states that SSL is provided by openssl. No mention of gnutls. 14.09.59 # https://www.openssl.org/source/license.html 14.10.02 # bluebrother: https://people.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html is a good summary 14.10.24 # * bluebrother goes reading 14.10.38 # <[Saint]> We would be very screwed if we needed to get permission from all contributors. 14.10.52 # <[Saint]> How VLC managed it is beyond me. 14.10.57 # another thing: Qt documentation states "Note: Due to import and export restrictions in some parts of the world, we are unable to supply the OpenSSL Toolkit with Qt packages." 14.11.02 # <[Saint]> I doubt we'd fare as well. 14.11.08 # [Saint]: maybe. rbutil is easier than all of rockbox I guess 14.11.14 # I'm wondering if those restrictions apply to us as well 14.11.22 # <[Saint]> Ah,this is true. 14.12.17 # <[Saint]> Yeah, there's fucky export rules for "strong encryption". 14.12.29 # <[Saint]> It's all a bit nuts if you ask me. 14.12.40 # it is. 14.12.45 # I'm fairly sure it's not a problem for us. We distribute from Sweden which IIRC doesn't have such laws 14.12.57 # <[Saint]> Like anyone's going to be fishing a binary out of a package when they can just bloody clone and build it. 14.14.01 # I'm also wondering why Qt isn't using the ssl stuff that's in Windows for Windows. On Linux dynamically linking to openssl should be fine since systems have that anyway 14.14.15 # gevaerts: good to know. 14.18.36 # * gevaerts decides to break the topic in other channels to ask people about qt and ssl backends 14.22.07 # https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-38400 14.22.21 # at least there seems to be _some_ interest in that. 14.23.19 # but even latest Qt 5.7 uses openssl only, at least according to the documentation :/ 14.23.28 Join xorly| [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) 14.24.23 # <[Saint]> We should get with the cool kids and use GNULibreBackflipNeckbeardSSL 14.24.24 # * gevaerts dislikes the world! 14.25.20 # any reason to use openssl specifically? 14.25.36 # Yes. Qt uses that 14.25.38 # Qt uses openssl 14.26.45 # ah, makes sense 14.27.00 # Not using openssl means doing http differently, which is an option of course, but it's not a quick one 14.28.05 # well, the other option would be to not use ssl with Rockbox Utility at all. 14.28.15 # Though I'd prefer to have ssl support in ... 14.33.48 # sometimes this licencing stuff is really absurd 14.34.26 # I am really surprised that openssl, being used everywhere, keeps harassing everyone with this licence ;) 14.34.37 # Well 14.34.46 # They know, and IIUC they want to change it 14.34.55 # But they have the same problem as everyone else :) 14.36.02 # the strange thing is that libraries with such problematic licenses became pretty fundamental these days. 14.51.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.02.41 Quit xorly| (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.03.24 Join xorly| [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) 15.26.43 Quit xorly| (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15.30.41 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 15.40.15 # hmm, don't cats have different counts of claws an front and back (?) legs/paws like 5 and 4 - so that would be 18 claws? Maybe I'm confusing this with some other animal though... 15.40.30 # argh... wrong channel. Sorry 15.43.11 Join xorly| [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) 15.44.19 Quit robertd1 (Remote host closed the connection) 15.50.23 Quit xorly| (Read error: No route to host) 15.59.22 Join robertd1 [0] (~as@201.208.231.245) 16.04.47 Join xorly| [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) 16.11.38 Quit dfkt_ (Quit: SIC GORGIAMVS ALLOS SVBJECTATOS NVNC.) 16.12.06 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.24.45 # Bilgus: I have been testing your patch f7a07c732c1b0ab24324091f5445dbfd7ea79e05 on a Sansa Clip+ for 2h or so. 16.27.12 # First of all, I like the UI a lot: it has simple logic and is very effective. 16.27.12 # I have not noticed any negative effects or interference with "First ButtonPress ...". 16.27.12 # However, it isn't working completely reliably (i.e. maybe in 30% of the cases display turns on. I ave not figured out the logic/sequence though). 16.27.12 DBUG Enqueued KICK johnb2 16.27.12 # Volume keys are very stable, I had only one occasion when the screen turned on. 16.27.12 # Play, Seek and Skip every now and then turned on the display. 16.27.12 *** Alert Mode level 1 16.27.12 # For Play (=Pause) it sometimes stayed off, but turned on on Resume. 16.27.12 *** Alert Mode level 2 16.27.12 # I still like it a lot and will keep it on the device. I intend to use Volume and Play going forward. 16.27.13 *** Alert Mode level 3 16.27.13 # I have uploaded the build for clip+ here: 16.27.13 *** Alert Mode level 4 16.27.13 # https://app.box.com/s/ycizz4526d0dv2oq4wkhvu10qim29ktg 16.28.02 # if others also want to test. 16.34.45 Quit johnb2 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 16.37.14 *** Alert Mode OFF 16.48.07 Quit robertd1 (Quit: Leaving.) 16.50.00 Join robertd1 [0] (~as@201.208.231.245) 16.51.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.18.44 Join Bilgus [0] (ae6611d9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.102.17.217) 17.18.55 # johnb2: 17.19.27 # Wait a few I'm about to upload a much different version of this 17.20.08 # I totally redesigned the action mechanism in the last day it is much more stable now 17.20.35 # the majority of it is already up in gerrit but i have a few things to polish yet 17.22.12 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@pD95643CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.22.42 # Bilgus 17.22.54 # : Ok, I will check again. 17.24.11 # BTW, I just tested it on the Fuze V2 and during volume change (i.e. using the scroll wheel) the screen is flickering, but when finished turns off again. 17.25.34 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 17.27.12 # when did you grab the patch you are using currently? 17.33.33 # roughly 4 or 5 hours ago 17.38.26 # ok that is the current mechanism ill have you try the new one maybe the scroll wheel turns on the backlight in its code somewhere 17.40.36 # ill let you know when its up.. 17.41.06 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 17.48.13 # <[Saint]> It should. 17.48.32 # <[Saint]> Re: scrollwheel. 17.50.56 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:e5f6:da1e:616a:9344) 17.59.11 # I'm a bit too dense to get what you are saying lol 18.00.19 # nm I see it in target dir 18.04.12 # ugh that makes this slightly more complicated 18.05.33 # <[Saint]> All the scrollwheel targets will behave this way. 18.05.46 # <[Saint]> In case you're thinking it's just a few. 18.08.59 Join athidhep [0] (~afoakf@S0106602ad06acd48.vc.shawcable.net) 18.09.10 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.10.47 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 18.16.30 Quit athidhep (Quit: athidhep) 18.16.47 Join athidhep [0] (~afoakf@S0106602ad06acd48.vc.shawcable.net) 18.20.10 # no i'm just going to make a function that enables a global backlight wait instead of a backlight_on_wait() function 18.20.45 # that way nothing has to be changed with backlight_on and a bunch of conditionals across the code 18.34.11 # what does SHAREDBSS_ATTR signify? preprocessor command? 18.36.04 # pamaury: is there already something to try out? 18.36.51 # yes, I have a dualboot program working. You can't real dualboot since I haven't pushed the linux code but at least you can try it out see if work and is nice 18.36.54 # what is your device? 18.36.56 # lebellium: ^ 18.37.07 # Bilgus: it's a memory attribute 18.37.46 # it means in BSS (ie the data that is initialized to 0 when rockbox starts) and SHARED means it can be used by both cpu and coprocessor on target that have one 18.38.14 # yeah so its bss then? 18.38.24 # pamaury: A850. But in the end I don't want a brick like your E460 :P 18.38.25 # oh nm 18.38.45 # lebellium: don't worry, it was a stupid bug, I made a typo and rm -rf the root filsystem :-p 18.38.46 # got it thx 18.39.10 # and I recovered my E460 in the end 18.40.14 # lebellium: I don't think you have the sony toolchain installed? 18.40.27 # I assume not 18.41.05 # ah, at the moment it's a little bit tricky to build it, I haven't made a proper modification of rockboxdev.sh, that's my next step. So either you wait for that, or I send you a prebuilt binary 18.41.27 # I can wait too :) 18.41.31 # I think it's safe to wait, since I will push some rockbox port with it :) 18.42.06 # does the A850 have a touchscreen? 18.42.50 # it doesn't 18.44.26 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC10760.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.45.35 Quit Jinx (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 18.51.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.01.37 Join girafe [0] (~girafe@LFbn-1-8015-136.w90-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.36.49 Join FlynDice [0] (463c65c3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.60.101.195) 19.37.40 Part FlynDice 19.44.06 Join Jinx [0] (Dojo@unaffiliated/jinx) 19.47.55 Quit xorly| (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.32.54 Join xorly| [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) 20.36.30 Join cereal_killer [0] (2e7df950@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.125.249.80) 20.36.54 Nick cereal_killer is now known as Guest36141 (2e7df950@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.125.249.80) 20.37.57 # Is it enough to add #define HAVE_MULTIVOLUME to cowond2.h to make Rockbox see a second partition on the SD card? 20.38.21 # *think* so 20.38.28 # It's been a while... 20.38.50 # Hmm, wait 20.39.16 # I thought HAVE_MULTIDISK implied HAVE_MULTIVOLUME, and cowond2 definitely has HAVE_MULTIDISK 20.39.53 # I created a second partition on the SD card, but Rockbox can not see it. The OF of course does not either. 20.40.55 # it is a 256MB card and both partitions formatted to fat16, could this be a problem? 20.40.59 # Hmmm, yes, you need explicit HAVE_MULTIVOLUME 20.42.05 # gevaerts: thanks, so it is just adding this line and compile? 20.42.11 # Otherwise NUM_VOLUMES_PER_DRIVE will be 1, which isn't used on its own, but the maximum number of volumes in total is NUM_VOLUMES_PER_DRIVE * NUM_DRIVES 20.42.13 # yes 20.44.00 # thanks 20.46.44 Join vladovg [0] (~vladovg@cpe90-146-181-140.liwest.at) 20.47.13 # hey guys 20.47.37 # fiio x3 2nd gen 20.47.54 # http://imgur.com/a/ESSjq 20.50.30 # so far manage to take it apart 20.51.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.52.35 # but i cannot take the navigation wheel out 20.52.47 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@pD95643CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.53.48 # you can see on the 3rd picture 20.54.17 # any ideas ? 20.55.48 # original artikel : http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=51290.0 20.58.20 Quit evilnick (Remote host closed the connection) 20.58.24 Quit gevaerts (Remote host closed the connection) 21.02.55 # vladovg: you probably don't need to remove the wheel 21.03.55 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.04.23 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 21.12.35 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC10760.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.22.54 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-77-223-98.dynamic.chello.pl) 21.24.30 # pamaury: I have nwz-e474 but without wm port cable so I need to buy one. It is f*** irritating to have dozen of cables which all are basically usb but with different proprietary connectors. 21.25.19 Quit wodz (Client Quit) 21.37.47 # wodz (logs): yeah you sum that up nicely... especially since this f** wm-port connector is almost useless, contrary to the apply cable 21.38.56 # it gives you a line-in :) 21.39.01 # line-out* sorry 21.43.54 # lebellium: I am not sure that justifies a different connector ;) 21.52.54 Part Guest36141 21.53.23 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 21.55.11 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 21.57.02 Part robertd1 21.57.06 Quit lebellium (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.58.03 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@ren77-h01-176-151-188-9.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 21.58.39 # I don't know, I've never seen a line-out over mini or microUSB 22.00.22 # lebellium: just put another jack! 22.00.35 # like everyone else 22.00.41 # that was easy on the -2004-2005 bricks 22.00.58 # on the modern looking Sony or Samsung players, putting another jack may be an issue 22.01.27 # now with the audiophile bricks, it's easy again 22.02.21 # if you can put one jack, you can usually put two, and sony started to produce audiophile bricks recently 22.04.15 # if you look the trends, line-in and line-out jacks totally disappeared for 10 years 22.04.19 # not only by Sony 22.05.01 # probably for design, size/thickness matter 22.05.08 # and because customers didn't care 22.05.41 # now audiophile players ironically look like 2004-2005 iRiver H300 and Cowon X5 22.07.14 # putting a proprietary connector gave the opportunity to have a line-out for 10% customers and didn't affect the 90% others who didn't care 22.09.54 # yeah you might be right 22.10.40 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 22.27.37 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.208.231.245) 22.43.47 Quit PurlingNayuki (Remote host closed the connection) 22.44.14 Join saratoga_ [0] (126f7e3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.111.126.63) 22.44.39 # on most of those older devices, the line out was just to keep you from blasting your ears because you forgot to lower the volume after plugging headphones in 22.45.20 # so using a proprietary dock connector made more sense, you'd use it to plug into accessories 22.45.25 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@45.76.202.201) 22.51.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.05.13 Quit vladovg (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.28.58 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 23.34.07 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 23.34.13 Join __builtin_ [0] (~xray@unaffiliated/franklin) 23.36.17 Quit __builtin (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.47.32 Join JanC_ [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 23.48.47 Nick JanC is now known as Guest39718 (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 23.48.47 Quit Guest39718 (Killed (rajaniemi.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) 23.48.48 Nick JanC_ is now known as JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 23.50.32 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 23.56.15 # OK. Updated, that took a long while http://gerrit.rockbox.org/1417 Selective Backlight - Allows user to select actions that don't turn on Backlight