--- Log for 24.11.116 Server: karatkievich.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 17 days ago 00.01.24 Join ruhans [0] (uid76353@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owwjueqkjwolkggb) 00.09.49 # [Saint]: (re: mouse pointer for ballerburg) This solution is so bluntly obvious, that I completely overlooked it :D 00.10.42 # * ulmutul thought of red blinking rectangles as cursor, that can be switched between the cannons 00.12.35 # However the mouse emulation may be annoying, if you have to go over distances on the screen frequently. 00.12.57 # <__builtin> quadratic movement over time 00.13.04 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.13.12 # <__builtin> first second: 10 pixels/second 00.13.19 # <__builtin> second second: 20 pixels/second 00.13.23 # <__builtin> etc. 00.14.09 # ...and then you have to go back, because it's so fast that you miss your target :P 00.16.16 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.18.10 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 00.41.30 Quit ulmutul (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.0/20161104212021]) 00.44.11 # <__builtin> how do I get a gui_synclist to have a themed background as opposed to the default black screen? 00.52.58 Quit ender (Quit: There's only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, be nothing. — Aristotle) 00.57.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.57.54 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 01.00.55 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 01.03.51 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 01.07.05 Quit JdGordon (Remote host closed the connection) 01.22.32 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.23.00 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01.24.20 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 01.37.32 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@x4d099c38.dyn.telefonica.de) 02.08.00 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 02.18.43 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.24.42 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.37.54 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@178.112.246.102.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 02.53.57 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-73-201-115-99.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 02.57.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.12.30 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.21.34 Join smoke_fumus [0] (~smoke_fum@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-14-117.telecom.by) 04.34.19 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 04.43.29 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p578F77F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.53.01 Join Bilgus [0] (41ba23be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.186.35.190) 04.57.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.57.59 # Built_in looks to me like you use set_viewport to load your struct into the parent of the list ... see test_viewports.c and line 114 of list.c 05.02.40 Quit Bilgus (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.09.17 # <__builtin> argh dang it 05.09.23 # <__builtin> looks like I have a stack overflow of some sort 06.09.11 Quit dan- (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06.36.41 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 06.37.25 # <[Saint]> The good news is you can probably post about your stack overflow on stack overflow so that the people on stack overflow can help you fix your stack overflow. 06.37.28 # <[Saint]> ...stack overflow. 06.57.08 Quit [7] (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.57.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.57.44 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 07.10.27 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-187-232.mcn.bellsouth.net) 07.10.59 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.34.14 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-73-201-115-99.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 07.40.16 Quit nlogex (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.25.37 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.27.19 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 08.32.14 Quit pixelma (Quit: .) 08.32.15 Quit amiconn (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 08.32.26 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.32.27 Join amiconn [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.36.55 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@145.133.43.230) 08.38.45 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.54.20 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@94-75-75-29.home.aster.pl) 08.57.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.58.01 Quit edhelas (Quit: Leaving.) 09.05.03 Quit girafe2 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.06.58 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.34.13 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 09.45.25 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@wced-119-219-32-147.feld.cvut.cz) 09.55.23 Part GodEater ("WeeChat 1.6-dev") 10.15.03 # Bilgus: I haven't gotten much time to test, but I realize there seems to be one very minor bug in sel BL/SL. 10.22.15 # When setting the actions, after confirming save, it returns correctly to the menu, but my status bar at the top of the screen disappears until either a new menu level demands screen redraw, or something changes in the status bar to redraw it. 10.22.47 # Maybe you already fixed this, and I'm running an old version. 10.33.08 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@wks-50-63.mpi-sws.org) 10.33.08 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 10.33.09 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.57.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.34.55 Join robertd1 [0] (~as@201.208.231.245) 11.39.17 Join dima_ [0] (47ee5f61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.238.95.97) 11.40.29 # hey guys, i have a little problem. i think something might be wrong with my charging port on both my ipod 5.5gs, and i cannot get any pc to recognize that its plugged in (it chirps, but it doesnt show up in drives, and after 30 seconds it disconnects, and then itunes tells me it discovered it.) 11.41.08 # so i was wondering, is there a way to install rockbox software on an empty CF card through an adapter to my pc, and then mount the CF card in my ipod? 11.44.07 # dima_: Ask [Saint] - he will know 11.44.56 # thanks, ill try that 11.46.17 # On PP ipods that's possible, yes 11.46.43 # Well, I'm not sure how hard our tools try to prevent you doing that, actually :) 11.47.15 # what's a PP ipod 11.47.33 # sorry, i'm pretty new to all of this. this would be my second attempt to even use an ipod. 11.47.43 # One with a PortalPlayer chip in it, which means up to 5.5G, nano 1G, or the minis 11.48.06 # Maybe it's also possible on the later ones, but I don't know those very well 11.48.20 # i have two 5.5g ipods 11.48.56 # is that a chip i have to buy and solder on? 11.49.00 # No 11.49.23 # It's basically the CPU the ipod is designed around 11.51.01 Quit dima_ (Quit: Page closed) 11.51.19 Join dima_ [0] (47ee5f61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.238.95.97) 11.51.35 # ah. mine says PP3021C-TDF 11.51.42 # so im assuming thats it then 11.52.19 # Hmm, no. That's a coincidence :) 11.53.11 # which one's the CPU then? i really should know this, we're learning about them in my electrical engineering class now :/ 11.53.31 # Or maybe it is? 11.53.33 # * gevaerts isn't sure! 11.53.41 # Ipods (well, the ones I know/care about) come in three main generations hardware-wise. There's the 1g to 3g that have a PortalPlayer 5002 chip in them, there's the minis, the nano1g, and te 4G (all variants) to 5.5G that have a PP5020 or PP5022 in them, and the classic and nano2g and up that have a Samsung S5Lsomething in them 11.54.10 # well, i'm pretty sure that they are 5.5gs so we're good there 11.54.19 # Actually, maybe? Are you sure about the 3? If it says PP5021 that makes perfect sense 11.54.21 # they all had the search feature when the hard drives still worked 11.54.59 # 5021c my bad 11.55.05 # I forgot the 21. The actual variants I'm aware of there are 5020, 5021, 5022 and 5024 11.55.08 # hard to tell, its a little scratched up 11.55.10 # They're all very similar 11.55.29 # Anyway... 11.57.43 # so i've got it hooked up to a 2000 mah battery and using a tarkan adapter. it worked before when i had the hard drives but something failed on both of them at the same time. might have been a surge, the usb cable i had at the time was ancient and the wall connector was one of them 5 volt ipad ones. it sparked a bit and smelled burning, but was fine after a while 11.58.08 # You'd have to start by following https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore to get the CF card in a "normal" state, then I suspect you have to do a manual installation (i.e. using ipodpatcher, not using rockbox utility) due to it not being in an actual ipod 11.58.55 # guess ill have to figure out how to install linux then 11.59.56 # All of that should work from a live CD as well, possibly in a VM 11.59.56 # how do i tell what my byte sectors are? 12.00.13 # i have a vm software with xp on it, actually 12.00.15 # Go for 512 12.00.16 # ill try that 12.00.33 # any distribution you recommend? 12.00.53 # i've only had a chance to run a few commands on some obscure unix server at school, and mint from a live usb 12.00.57 # 2048 is really only actually needed on the original 80GB drive (because it has firmware bugs that prevent 512 byte sectors from working) 12.01.16 # i see. well, this is a 32gb CF card so ill go with the 512 12.01.46 # If you've used mint before, there's no reason to change for this 12.02.10 # great, ill boot it up now 12.02.17 # You need dd and maybe fdisk. Every linux system will have those 12.08.23 # hmm. its telling me this kernel requires x86-64 cpu but detected i686 12.09.07 # i know my cpu is a 64 though 12.14.34 # using the 32 bit, and it's telling me requires the following features not present on the cpu: pae 12.15.28 # really weird, seeing as it worked before on the same pc 12.16.22 # well, ill try some other distributions and let you know 12.16.49 # <[Saint]> Wait...just so I'm clear, not reading this wall of text: 12.17.02 # <[Saint]> If you don't have our bootloader, its not happening. 12.17.06 # <[Saint]> Do you? 12.17.30 # <[Saint]> You can put the FW on the storage any which way you want. 12.17.36 # <[Saint]> Useless if you can boot it. 12.18.15 # i'm not sure i follow. 12.18.27 # dima_: don't worry, I'm not sure [Saint] follows :) 12.18.36 # [Saint]: the bootloader sits on the disk 12.18.49 # is the bootloader some software i need to download? 12.19.01 # the CF card is completely empty and freshly formatted 12.19.23 # <[Saint]> gevaerts: eh...kinda. 12.19.33 # <[Saint]> This is a 7g, no? 12.19.35 # No 12.19.37 # 5.5g 12.20.06 # <[Saint]> Ah. 12.20.23 # dima_: the bootloader is installed by either ipodpatcher or rockbox utility. You don't have to download it separately 12.20.37 # i see 12.20.53 # im trying mint maya now. i think i remember using it a few years back 12.21.02 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:1d20:d98f:c4e7:f7fa) 12.22.02 # looks promising 12.22.47 # alright im in 12.23.52 # switching to the other window 12.23.55 Quit dima_ (Quit: Page closed) 12.24.21 Join dima_ [0] (47ee5f61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.238.95.97) 12.25.13 # don't think this vmware is actually reading my usb 12.26.47 # sorry, you'll have to bear with me here 12.26.53 # how do i actually find the drives 12.29.21 Join dima__ [0] (47ee5f61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.238.95.97) 12.29.24 # i believe ive crashed my linux 12.33.15 # yeah its not letting me open virtualbox anymore. failed to open session rpc_s_server_unavailible 0x800706ba. cant even interact with the error window or close it without task manager 12.33.34 Quit dima_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.33.47 # oh, thats me 12.34.01 # i may have fixed it 12.35.13 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.36.35 # there we go. i can view the drive in mint 12.36.37 # what a journey 12.38.03 # so i just type this inter kernel right dd if=mbr-xxxx.bin of=/dev/sdX 12.38.58 # <[Saint]> Id you're aware the xxxx and X there are placeholders. Yes. 12.39.07 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 12.39.09 # <[Saint]> *If 12.39.11 # of course 12.39.35 # <[Saint]> Well, I needed to clarify. You did say type into kernel. 12.39.42 # <[Saint]> Stranger things have happened. 12.39.54 # i meant konsole 12.40.20 # sorry, i just tried to hack my DS, so the terminology got mixed up 12.42.27 # actually, i'm not sure what goes for that second X 12.42.39 # i assume its the drive letter but im not sure what linux assigned it to 12.44.21 # [Saint]: 12.46.12 # <[Saint]> 'mount' will tell you. 12.47.34 # /dev/sdbl on /media/TRANSCEND 12.47.38 # so sdbl? 12.50.29 # no such file or directory 12.51.58 # going to try /media/sdbl 12.52.13 # same thing 12.52.41 # actually, i might have to move terminal to that location first. lets see if i remember the commands.... 12.54.30 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~root@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 12.54.46 # permission denied 12.57.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.57.30 # oh, i might have done it 12.57.49 # [Saint]: dd: opening '/media/TRANSCEND/': Is a directory 12.58.03 # cant tell if thats an error code or a success 12.59.30 # <[Saint]> You really don't want to be doing this with dd unless you're confident. Failing to be root may have just saved your ass. 12.59.39 # <[Saint]> You're potentially a lucky boy. 12.59.45 # <[Saint]> Or girl. Whatevs. 13.00.00 # <[Saint]> You need to be root for this. That's why permissions bounced. 13.00.19 # <[Saint]> You need to be ABSOLUTELY sure what disk you're dealing with. 13.00.42 # well, it's in a virtual environment 13.00.44 # <[Saint]> No one will help you stitch your PC that fails to boot if you fuck up back together. 13.01.25 # i'm running windows 7 with virtualbox, and running linux mint 13 and doing the commands there 13.01.45 # afaik i cant access windows 7 through mint, but i could be wrong 13.01.55 # worse case i will just delete the vm and re install it 13.02.56 # but here's a screenshot just to be sure http://imgur.com/a/vN4dX 13.09.06 # [Saint]: 13.15.03 # <[Saint]> Yes. That's the one. But you don't want sdb1, you want sdb. 13.15.21 # ok 13.15.43 # still permission denied 13.15.54 # <[Saint]> You also need to elevate permission as discussed above. 13.16.20 # there's a $ there 13.16.46 # mint@mint /media/TRANSCENT $ and then i can type 13.17.05 # <[Saint]> Yes. Which means you're just a normal old Joe User. 13.17.26 # oh, its su isnt it 13.17.34 # sorry, its been a while 13.17.41 # <[Saint]> You need to use sudo or work as root. 13.17.44 # <[Saint]> $ is just a part of a standard prompt. 13.18.34 # alright i got it 13.18.37 # heres what it says 13.18.51 # 1+0 records in 13.18.55 # 1+0 records out 13.19.15 # 512 bytes (512B) copied and some time info 13.20.25 # <[Saint]> If you're back at a prompt and nothing screamed at you or exploded, it finished without error. 13.20.31 # yep 13.20.37 # but i get a error at the next step 13.20.45 # re-reading partition table 13.21.05 # BLKRRPART failed: device or resource busy 13.24.25 # i'm going to reboot maybe it will fix it 13.24.29 # thats what google says anyway 13.25.32 # <[Saint]> Did you forget to work as a privileged user again? 13.25.43 # nope i did sudo 13.25.51 # when i forgot to sudo it said permission denied 13.29.04 # doesnt look like mint wants to read the card 13.29.22 # it doesnt show up when i do mount 13.29.36 # <[Saint]> It was probably bitching about thinking sdb1 was still mounted. 13.30.57 # windows says i need to format the disk 13.34.14 # yeah, its just not reading that the drive is there 13.35.33 Join elensil [0] (~edhelas@2001:1c02:1903:d800:c32:7de5:6825:126e) 13.35.46 # maybe ill just format it and try again 13.38.52 # uh, so it just reduced the memory on the drive 13.39.16 # it's a 32 but now its telling me its 27.8 13.40.13 # i see, it split it into 3 partitions 13.41.12 # but i can't remove the unallocated partitions 13.41.21 # or do anything with them 13.43.10 # <[Saint]> gparted is a nice gui front end for parted for this type of work. 13.43.34 # <[Saint]> parted is a little cumbersome for the unfamiliar 13.45.32 # i did it in windows cmd 13.45.37 # should be working now 13.50.59 # yeah, its giving me the same error 13.51.05 # device or resource busy 13.52.39 # should i just continue as if nothing went wrong? 13.52.43 # couldnt hurt 13.53.31 Part robertd1 13.55.08 # so gparted says it made 3 partitions, 2 unallocated and 1 that is sdb2 13.55.15 # <[Saint]> My guess is that this may be some quirk of virtualization guest additions to do storage passthrough 13.56.24 # is it important, or is that just something to check if it did the job 13.57.25 # just beat rockbox solitaire 13.57.32 # on a clip+ 13.57.40 # falling cards do not disappoint. 14.00.52 # <[Saint]> dima__: I'm saying the resource busy error may well be a quirk of this happening in virtualization 14.01.44 # reading further, it says to put files onto the partitions 14.01.53 # two of which are unallocated though 14.02.34 # leads me to think that i messed up on the first step 14.07.17 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.208.231.245) 14.09.11 # error informing the kernel about modifications to aprtition /dev/sdb2 -- device or resource busy. this means linux wont know about changes you made to /dev/sdb2 until you reboot -- so you shouldnt mount it or use it in any way before rebooting 14.15.21 # could it have anything to do with the "mbus base address uninitialized" error im getting whenever i boot the vm? 14.17.11 # <[Saint]> Possibly. Generally speaking I think it is pretty reckless to do low-level disk operations virtualized. 14.17.26 # <[Saint]> LiveUSB is your friend. 14.17.58 # yeah, for some reason i can't get it to boot anymore. but thats a whole different can of worms 14.18.57 # i know a guy that has linux on his laptop though, i might try that tomorrow if this reboot doesnt fix it 14.21.07 # or re read the partition table 14.21.14 # it* 14.23.31 # it formatted it, now its creating a new filesystem 14.24.09 # im using gparted, how do i make sure its using 512-byte sectors? or does the command automatically do that 14.24.10 # 3Gerrit review #512 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/512 : 3AMSv2 sd: restore switch sd into high-speed mode by Gunbuster 14.25.32 Join Bilgus [0] (41ba23be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.186.35.190) 14.27.24 # TorC i've been able to reproduce that once now this morning with the latest commit kinda random and odd something with the menus I suppose. I'll see what I can do with it tomorrow maybe passing a screen redraw back from the menu 14.28.16 # [Saint]: well, ive completed the last step, the mkfs part. do i just eject the drive, put the CF in, battery, and start the ipod? 14.28.33 # I only see it when going from NO > yes then exiting the menu and selecting don't save 14.30.24 # and is it going to ask me to plug it in to a computer? because i just realized i don't have a usb cable for this thing. i could go to walmart and pick one up though. 14.30.46 # ok or yes do save so Its Sel BL off >on select setting and save or don't save Thanks TorC ill look into it 14.38.02 Quit Bilgus (Quit: Page closed) 14.46.52 # [Saint]: alright, i got the usb 14.52.48 # [Saint]: it did absolutely nothing new. 14.53.24 # i put the CF card in, put the battery in, turned it on, and it didnt update the contents of its flash rom. it gave me a sad ipod 14.53.56 # <[Saint]> There's two possibilities there: 1. You goofed something. 2. Hardware is screwed up on a deeper level. 14.55.07 # were the two other partitions aside from the main one supposed to be unallocated? 14.55.27 # using dd on sdb1 (unallocated) ran the command just fine 14.57.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.58.35 # The first partition isn't unallocated. It has type 0 14.58.42 # That confuses some tools 14.58.44 # huh. 14.58.49 # well, its like this now http://imgur.com/a/OyBIl 14.59.08 # What does fdisk show? 14.59.18 # parted is one of the tools that's a bit confused about this 14.59.53 # let me figure out how this command works 15.01.10 # fdisk sdb doesnt do anything 15.01.16 # no such file or directory 15.01.22 # /dev/sdb 15.01.52 # it returns command (m for help) 15.01.54 # p 15.02.25 # http://imgur.com/a/B7qGj 15.03.00 # looks OK to me. Not sure about the boot flag, but I don't think it matters 15.03.13 # thats weird because there are supposed to be three partitions not two 15.03.29 # I've never seen a third partition on a FAT formatted ipod 15.03.32 # the other is 1.88gb 15.04.18 # If you mean there's a block of 1.88gb that's not allocated, then yes. That's not in a partition though 15.04.31 # ah 15.04.50 # gparted said both were unallocated so i assumed. 15.05.00 # You should be able to resize /dev/sdb2 later on (possibly with parted) to make things fit, but I wouldn't do that until things actually work 15.06.07 # should i just start over again then 15.06.15 # should be a lot faster now that i know what to expect 15.08.00 # What did you do so far? Put the MBR there (and look at it using parted and fdisk...), dd the firmware to /dev/sdb2? 15.08.14 # Anything else that's more than looking or figuring out what didn't work? 15.08.29 # Sorry, dd the firmware to /dev/sdb1 15.08.38 # Did you format /dev/sdb2 yet? 15.08.50 # i did dd mbr.bin to dev/dsb 15.09.01 # then i did hdparm -z dev sdb 15.09.15 # that all worked after a lot of trial and error 15.09.34 # then i did dd firmware to sdb1 (the 79mb partiton 15.09.42 # ok so far 15.09.59 # finally, i formatted with gparted the big partition to fat32 15.10.03 # ok 15.10.24 # then i went into bash and did sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 /def/sdb2 15.10.27 # That should be enough to get the apple firmware to boot 15.10.45 # That last one should be exactly the same as what gparted did, but not an issue 15.10.46 # Hmmm 15.11.17 # this guide assumes that my ipod is plugged in 15.11.34 # it's not. im doing this to a CF card directly 15.11.34 # What exactly did you dd? IIRC the firmware you download is zipped and needs to be unpacked first. I can't remember if the wiki pages makes that clear 15.11.44 # yes, i unpacked it 15.12.30 # dd if=Firmware-25.6.3 of=/dev/sdb1 15.12.34 # exactly like that 15.12.45 # hmm, that all looks OK to me 15.13.31 # let's see what happens if i plug the ipod into my pc 15.14.43 # actually i just rememberd that itunes wont install correctly 15.15.03 # I wonder if the ipod still tries to use 2048 byte sectors somehow. If it does, it's going to be annoying because there's no easy way to access the disk with 2048 byte sectors unless it's in the ipod 15.15.26 # the procedure entry point jscontextgetglobalobject could not be located in the dunamic link library webkit.dll 15.15.47 # is there itunes for linux? 15.15.50 # no 15.16.06 # * gevaerts doesn't think itunes is needed in any way for anything at all, ever :) 15.16.24 # same 15.16.35 # when it had a hard drive i just used disk mode with rockbox 15.17.31 # let me reinstall itunes though 15.17.36 # i might have figured it out 15.19.53 # there's really no reason to install 4 seperate apple programs just to run itunes.... 15.24.38 # alright its running 15.27.32 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.27.36 # well, windows ignores it but lets see what linux has to say 15.28.09 # it unplugged itself before virtualbox could recognize it... 15.28.17 # why does it unplug itself :/ 15.30.10 # * gevaerts would try without itunes running at all 15.30.31 # does the same thing 15.30.38 # Apart from that, who knows? Broken hardware, incompatible CF card, bad cable, ...? 15.30.39 # after 30 seconds of disk mode it just turns off 15.31.39 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services) 15.31.45 # well, i just bought this cable a few hours ago, and all my other cables are the same thing. incompatable cf card could be the cause, but when i bought it, the guys at head-fi said it was fine. broken hardware might be it, but it's weird that both my ipods have the same story 15.31.47 Join dfkt_ [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.33.02 # this is the exact card https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/666608-REG/Transcend_TS32GCF400_400x_CompactFlash_32GB_Memory.html 15.33.23 # and this is the adapter https://www.iflash.xyz/store/iflash-cf/ 15.33.37 # i bought both of these a few years ago though 15.34.19 # ok, so it's probably not basic hardware or the cable 15.36.12 # out of curiosity, how hard would it be to build a simple circuit that would play my music from this card and just have it sit in my car connected to the aux? 15.36.29 # cant be harder than this is becoming :/ 15.37.03 # then again, i suppose i could just get a sterio that takes sd cards for cheaper 15.37.38 # but thats not the point. what i really want is the ipod enclosure and have it play music 15.38.44 # i was supposed to meet a guy on craigslist this morning and buy his ipod for 30 bucks, he said it worked just had a broken battery, which i have a replacement for. that would have given me a conclution on whether my ipod's hardwares were broken 15.38.52 # but he bailed. 15.39.53 # i wonder if there's a hardware test i can do on the ipod 15.41.00 Quit dfkt_ (Quit: SIC GORGIAMVS ALLOS SVBJECTATOS NVNC.) 15.41.33 # oh there is 15.42.27 # id=0x22fa05 on usb test 15.45.20 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-73-201-115-99.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 15.45.35 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 15.50.19 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-73-201-115-99.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 15.54.49 # google is unhelpful as always 15.58.05 # uh..... 15.58.09 # it wont turn on anymore 15.58.52 # i tested the hd 15.59.08 # it gave me this 15.59.35 # http://imgur.com/9Voj3B0 15.59.43 # i hit menu and it wont even show the apple logo 15.59.47 # cant start it 16.01.06 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 16.08.14 # gevaerts: i may have just fried my logic board. 16.09.32 # [Saint]: what do i do now? 16.25.17 Quit PurlingNayuki (Quit: PurlingNayuki) 16.27.46 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@61.148.244.189) 16.34.17 Part robertd1 16.39.54 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 16.44.51 # guys? 16.55.37 Quit PurlingNayuki (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.55.43 Join PurlingNayuki1 [0] (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:4ff:1cc6:b380:e6a5:1bd1) 16.56.49 Quit toli (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 16.57.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.58.08 Nick PurlingNayuki1 is now known as PurlingNayuki (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:4ff:1cc6:b380:e6a5:1bd1) 17.01.46 Join girafe [0] (~girafe@LFbn-1-8015-136.w90-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.12.02 Join nlogex [0] (~filip@dhcp-198-2-91-25.cable.user.start.ca) 17.20.03 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.21.48 Quit duo8 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.22.12 Join duo8 [0] (~ZNC-SRV-H@27.76.236.158) 17.25.23 Join toli [0] (~toli@ip-83-134-71-176.dsl.scarlet.be) 17.28.00 Join newbie38 [0] (~smoke_fum@leased-line-195-222-90-238.telecom.by) 17.28.10 Quit smoke_fumus (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.32.31 Quit toli (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 17.35.09 # <__builtin> do viewports affect lcd_framebuffer[]? 17.44.12 # [Saint]: well, thanks anyways guys. guess im giving up :( 17.44.14 # gevaerts: 17.44.17 Quit dima__ (Quit: Page closed) 17.48.48 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@pD9565D16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.50.38 # Bilgus: should I wait for any pending update or use http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1417/ now? 17.51.22 # Do I get this correctly: http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1418/ is not needed anymore? 18.23.34 # <__builtin> it's too much work to fix these memory leaks... 18.23.47 # * __builtin might as well just nuke the malloc state every new game 18.27.39 Join Bilgus [0] (4cf32773@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.243.39.115) 18.28.04 # johnb2: they are combined now 18.28.28 # give me a sec and ill fix the bug torc pointed out 18.32.32 # fixed. 18.38.14 # i'm not completely happy with how the selection menu works so that will probably get changed at some point but I haven't decided how i'll change it, I really don't like the idea of making the user unselect all their selected actions to disable and thats why it has the No-Yes prompt first Ive made it so if it is yes it goes directly to the action selection screen and then drops into the No-Yes menu after but that makes it difficult fo 18.38.39 # m*enus 18.40.54 # the main problem is I don't have access to the button presses from within menus I wish menu callbacks recieved button presses in addition 18.42.03 # __builtin: nuking malloc state as often as possible will help a lot to avoid fragmentation as well 18.46.07 # <__builtin> it just doesn't seem like the "safest" choice 18.46.27 # Why? 18.46.54 # Things like audio codecs that do malloc nuke their heap on every track change 18.47.01 # <__builtin> unfreed data might be overwritten 18.47.34 Join toli [0] (~toli@ip-83-134-64-93.dsl.scarlet.be) 18.48.16 # Is there such data? 18.48.42 # Bilgus: Ok, I start compiling. you do you want me to start with the FuzeV2, right? 18.49.04 # <__builtin> there *shouldn't* be 18.49.09 # <__builtin> let me check 18.49.23 # Compiling for me is slow (Virtualbox on a CoreDuo ...). 18.50.15 # <__builtin> gevaerts: by the way, a bunch more games are working for me now 18.50.42 # <__builtin> turns out it's always my clipping code that's screwing up 18.50.46 # __builtin: that may be bad news. The more games you have working, the less likely you are to actually work on the code! :) 18.51.05 # <__builtin> I've noticed 18.52.07 # <__builtin> by instrumenting the malloc and free functions, it seems that there are still a couple unfreed pointers when quitting a game 18.52.36 # <__builtin> but the problem is I have no idea what they are 18.52.40 # Well, yes, but are those pointers still reachable after the game? 18.52.45 # <__builtin> I have no idea 18.52.52 # <__builtin> valgrind blows up with the sim 18.53.04 # <__builtin> so it's just a counter in smalloc() 18.53.05 # up to you the fuzev2 is the one I'm really interested in since it has the scrool wheel 18.53.23 # I'd assume those mallocs are game code, not UI code, so maybe valgrind on the linux version? 18.53.43 # * __builtin is betting he is the cause of the leaks 18.53.45 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 18.55.54 # How much is actually left after a game? I'd assume it's just some main loop with a menu? 18.56.58 # <__builtin> 3 allocs 18.57.02 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@145.133.43.230) 18.57.22 # <__builtin> well, it varies by game 18.57.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.58.11 # <__builtin> but it seems to be always 2 or more 19.19.53 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-179-5.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.22.50 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.26.56 # pamaury: I assume you didn't have time to make progress on the toolchain? 19.27.25 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@pD9565D16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.27.33 # Bilgus: Responsiveness for BL is good. In FMS Volume (Scroll Wheel) turns screen on despite its selectin in the menu. This doesn't happen with WPS. 19.27.51 # lebellium: no didn't have time today, but i'll work onit tonight 19.28.05 # ok 19.28.08 # i received the broken e585 btw 19.28.12 # ah nice 19.28.17 # ^selection 19.28.48 # pamaury: you got it shipped to germany? 19.29.06 # i live in france ;) 19.29.25 # I thought you studied/worked in the UK then Germany 19.29.36 # i do 19.29.59 # but saarbrucken is at the border 19.30.29 # hmm that is strange, can you try waiting a little longer after BL turns off before you try the volume and see if it makes a difference in FMS 19.30.42 # sure 19.32.21 # NM 19.32.24 # BL timer is set to 5s, Volume after 30s still turns the screen on 19.32.28 # i see what the problem is 19.32.45 # the fuze keymap doesn't have a volume setting 19.33.11 # it probably depends of fall through to context_std 19.33.22 # these corner case are killing me 19.36.52 # actually it doesn't even have the action in Context_standard which is very odd IMO I guess they only cared about it in Context_wps 19.37.53 # * __builtin is having a weird crash in tlsf 19.38.42 # <__builtin> the first allocation I do crashes when freed 19.42.25 # <__builtin> gevaerts: I'd like to have a self-documentation feature available 19.43.58 # Hmm I'll have to think about how to go through with this, either I go through and add the actions to all the keymaps where people excluded them or make the lookup go through Context_wps' lookup table if an action isn't found.. I find that incredulous but perhaps it has to do with the scroll wheel adding the button code from outside of Button.c 19.44.44 # Thanks JohnB2 this is exactly why I wanted a real fuzev2 :) 19.45.37 # <__builtin> gevaerts: since the actual games are monstrous already (puzzles.ovl is over 800K on target) 19.45.39 # when I get home tomorrow I'll ahve go through the sim and see if get_action ever returns a real action on the FMS 19.45.45 # * __builtin was thinking of having a separate "help" plugin 19.45.52 # My pleasure. 19.48.18 # <__builtin> so how do I load a plugin and then return from it to another plugin? 19.49.14 # I think i'll probably add something to fallthrough to Context_WPS' lookup on Action_unknown in FMS, I think that might also be why Pamaury + others had to use ACTION_SETTINGS_INC for their volume actions 19.51.59 Quit edhelas (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.54.10 Quit toli (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 19.54.52 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 19.56.54 Join toli [0] (~toli@ip-83-134-64-93.dsl.scarlet.be) 20.00.44 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.208.231.245) 20.01.57 Quit johnb2 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 20.02.41 Quit toli (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 20.03.04 # Bilgus: the use of ACTION_SETTINGS_INC in FMS is because the FMS action code uses ACTION_SETTINGS_INC to change volume, nothing more 20.03.35 # if you map volume+ to WPS_VOL_UP, in FMS it will have no effect 20.05.07 # (you should check that of course, I'm saying this out of memory) 20.05.28 # lebellium: the E585 looks really unimpressive, cheap even ^^ 20.05.41 # hum I disagree here 20.06.03 # I think it as a nice alu body 20.06.08 # and a perfect form factor 20.06.17 # with dedicated volume keys and real buttons 20.06.25 # I haven't seen such a good player since YP-R0 20.06.57 Quit newbie38 (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 20.08.04 # somehow I prefer my E463 20.08.24 Join toli [0] (~toli@ip-62-235-44-21.dial.scarlet.be) 20.08.28 # anyway, I need to figure out what is wrong with it 20.09.15 # ah damn, what kind of weird screws is that? 20.09.31 # Oo 20.09.41 # it's just usual screws 20.09.45 # there are really tiny 20.10.29 # ask the rockbox fund for a good screwdriver \o/ 20.11.21 # I don't understand why people still use Philips screws for tiny things 20.11.28 # Torx is just way better 20.11.28 # hopefully not everything is gluded inside 20.11.32 # glueded* 20.11.49 # yes, let's hope 20.12.27 # torx is less common, isn't it? 20.13.16 # I thought some manufacturers deliberatively put torx screws on some devices to be sure only a few people can disassemble them 20.14.17 # that was the case when they were first introduced I guess, but torx is just better 20.14.32 # hum, it doesn't seem to be glued but I'm struggling a bit to open the thing 20.15.31 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~root@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 20.16.47 # I'm inside :D 20.17.25 # take some pics for the science 20.22.41 # I am not sure how much I was to disassemble it though, the cpu on is on the hidden side of the board 20.22.51 # I can only see something that must the PMU 20.23.08 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-73-201-115-99.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 20.25.22 # voltmeter shows battery is at 3.3V 20.25.33 # but apparently when plugged it doesn't charge 20.26.47 # I can measure 5.9V at the battery terminal when plugged 20.28.27 # Pamaury, some of the targets don't have any keys mapped to volume at all 20.28.37 # (in FMS) 20.29.12 # Bilgus: like? 20.29.13 # ex. https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/master/apps/keymaps/keymap-fuze.c 20.29.56 # Bilgus: it does 20.30.06 # radio falls back to settings 20.30.17 # and settings has ACTION_SETTING_INC 20.32.08 # oh you are right I read that as Context_STD 20.33.46 # lebellium: something is not right, device seems to be charging randomly, like it charges for a few seconds and then stops charging 20.35.23 # I suspect the battery cables are a bit flaky 20.35.50 # either that or the usb connector 20.37.47 # or bad usb cable 20.37.57 # I should have check that even before disassemling it 20.38.09 # you don't have another cable like this? 20.38.45 # I do, I just used the one the guy sent me, but maye its cable is just bad :) 20.39.08 # <__builtin> [Saint]: would you happen to know how to load a plugin from another plugin? 20.39.26 # well, disassembling is always exciting.... 20.39.33 # ... until you break the player :D 20.39.45 # I have never killed a player yet 20.39.59 # I broke the Cowon C2 like that 20.40.08 # the screen connector 20.40.24 # worst I've done is broken plastic clips, thus the player wouldn't stick really well after tat 20.40.35 # <[Saint]> __builtin: No idea. 20.41.10 # lebellium: apparently it's just the cable :D 20.41.20 # that wa easy 20.41.35 # I paid €50 for a working cable :D 20.41.51 # Pamaury do you see any harm in adding the ACTION_SETTINGS_INC ...etc to the players that don't have them in the radio contexts? 20.41.51 # well done 20.42.27 # Bilgus: you mean adding it explicitely to radio context instead of relying on fallback? 20.43.06 # yes, otherwise I have to work around all the weird fall throughs on buttons without Button_rel 20.43.56 # f**** the super tiny screw is somewhere on the floor 20.44.03 # and it doesn't have gps to be found 20.46.17 # <[Saint]> high density magnet? 20.46.29 # <[Saint]> that's the lazy/blind engineer's best friend. 20.46.52 # <[Saint]> but knowing your luck it'll by some non-ferrous alloy. 20.46.57 # <[Saint]> s/by/be/ 20.48.31 # clever :) 20.50.12 # damn, putting the player back is tricky 20.50.33 # <[Saint]> ever since I mangled my wrist up and needed to switch from left to right handedness, I pretty much always keep a high density magnet on an extend-able pole thing withing reach when doing work like this. 20.50.52 # <[Saint]> I am forever dropping tiny, and not so tiny, screws. 20.51.07 # <[Saint]> gotta get 'em before the cat eats them. 20.51.11 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 20.55.46 # damn it, the case of this thing is super super tight 20.55.53 # * pamaury curves evil engineers 20.57.32 # difficult to imagine how hard it is to put it back 20.57.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.57.38 # from the outside it looks well designed :D 20.58.58 # ah finally back to one piece :) 21.06.43 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.08.25 Quit toli (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 21.08.57 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@145.133.43.230) 21.43.38 # pamaury I think I can just filter out actions from Context_Std and have it work properly 21.44.43 # I was just returning actions only from the specified context list (prior to fallthrough) 21.49.45 Quit Bilgus (Quit: Page closed) 21.56.17 Quit krabador (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.57.06 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 22.16.47 Join Miles [0] (63fe171e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.254.23.30) 22.41.01 Join toli [0] (~toli@ip-62-235-44-10.dial.scarlet.be) 22.42.07 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.44.58 Quit robertd1 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.45.08 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 22.45.46 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.208.231.245) 22.49.51 Quit toli (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22.54.31 Join toli [0] (~toli@ip-62-235-239-161.dsl.scarlet.be) 22.55.44 Quit paulk-collins (Quit: Leaving) 22.57.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.08.24 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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