--- Log for 07.12.116 Server: verne.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 hours and 33 minutes ago 00.00.36 Quit Elfish (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.01.30 Quit ender` (Quit: A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. — Steven Wright) 00.02.14 Quit edhelas (Quit: Leaving.) 00.06.41 # <__builtin> is there anything "wrong" from a UX standpoint of making actions fire on button releases instead of presses? 00.07.23 # __builtin: that depends in my opinion 00.08.31 # although generally I would say that an action should happen when you press or shortly after (for example to detect between short and long press) 00.10.22 # <__builtin> the weird thing about my use case is that it needs to reliably detect when the user presses two keys at nearly the same time 00.10.44 # <__builtin> so, firing on a press is bad because it will likely interpret it as two separate events 00.14.12 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.27.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.29.36 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2001:1608:12:1:13:3:3:7) 00.37.39 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 00.42.19 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 00.51.51 Join Bray90820_ [0] (~bray90820@50-83-216-25.client.mchsi.com) 00.54.06 Quit Bray90820 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01.00.17 Join PurlingNayuki1 [0] (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:3c35:6d71:c237:ea40:32ae) 01.02.32 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01.02.32 Nick PurlingNayuki1 is now known as PurlingNayuki (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:3c35:6d71:c237:ea40:32ae) 01.02.38 Quit athidhep (Quit: athidhep) 01.10.51 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.11.52 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:3c35:c967:fff3:b4d6:7d20) 01.17.18 Join Bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@50-83-216-25.client.mchsi.com) 01.19.25 Quit Bray90820_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.26.16 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.27.14 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:3c35:9059:a433:dc37:7182) 01.36.17 Join PurlingNayuki1 [0] (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:3c35:352d:c36f:9361:7318) 01.37.12 Join TheEaterOfSouls [0] (~chatzilla@66.172.117.241) 01.37.31 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.37.31 Nick PurlingNayuki1 is now known as PurlingNayuki (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:3c35:352d:c36f:9361:7318) 01.43.46 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.44.04 Part TheEaterOfSouls 01.55.13 Join alexweis_ [0] (~alexweiss@149-160-181-231.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) 01.58.34 Join naleo [0] (~naleo@unaffiliated/naleo) 01.58.53 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 02.00.09 Quit alexweis_ (Remote host closed the connection) 02.06.35 Join athidhep [0] (~afoakf@unaffiliated/athidhep) 02.08.34 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:3c35:d0de:be65:a605:5187) 02.25.06 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.27.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.33.21 Join Bilgus_ph [0] (4cf32773@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.243.39.115) 02.35.08 # __builtin: Have you looked into using a custom keymap yet, does it not do what you want?? { ACTION_FILP, BUTTON_LEFT, BUTTON_UP }, 02.35.31 # <__builtin> no, I haven't 02.35.37 # <__builtin> how would I do it from a plugin> 02.35.39 # <__builtin> ? 02.36.33 # and then { ACTION_FLIP, BUTTON_UP, BUTTON_LEFT }, so it wouldn't need to depend on order 02.38.00 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@77.116.104.63.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 02.39.15 # https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/1f8ea9fe27313228e5df67ce6447830b5c30e5e3/apps/plugins/lib/pluginlib_actions.c 02.39.41 # basically make a table of actions and supply to get_custom_action 02.42.34 # return rb->get_custom_action(CONTEXT_PLUGIN,timeout,my_context_map); 02.42.58 # have a look at keymaps for the format of the table 02.45.13 # <__builtin> alright 02.46.02 # <__builtin> I have to make one for every keypad though, do I? 02.46.13 Quit Senj_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.47.27 # mmm It would need to be for any non standard buttons I suppose but you coulkd have them all in the same table 02.48.03 # Wouldn't be any different any otherway though 02.55.58 Join PurlingNayuki1 [0] (~Thunderbi@114.255.40.10) 02.56.16 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.56.17 Nick PurlingNayuki1 is now known as PurlingNayuki (~Thunderbi@114.255.40.10) 02.57.02 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 02.57.25 # <__builtin> alright 02.57.58 # that link has pretty much what you will need to emulate 02.58.34 # <__builtin> hmm, if I'm going to emulate PLA why don't I just use PLA? 02.59.15 # pay attention to the timeout variable it goes NO_block, Blocking, and timeout I believe 03.00.25 # well the only problem is the simultaneous button presses I guess you could do the first as Blocking, and the next as timeout 03.01.18 # I don't know which is the more reliable method 03.03.05 # <__builtin> I think the quickest option that doesn't require me to (re)write too many things is just to work with raw button codes and avoid unnecessary headache 03.04.41 # the raw button codes are still going to require the same as PLA since the button codes differ by device 03.05.32 # <__builtin> I already have a bunch of keymaps in the form of #define BTN_UP BUTTON_MENU, etc. 03.08.55 # hmm so I think if you already have the keymap either use the current keymap with time out of BLOCK, and then Timeout of HZ/4 and that will probably do what you want, or if that is unreliable then define your own keymap using those keymaps for reference 03.10.09 # Your baby just trying to give you something reliable.. 03.10.21 # <__builtin> yeah thanks, I appreciate it 03.15.19 # bbl 03.15.24 Quit Bilgus_ph (Quit: Page closed) 03.19.18 # <__builtin> it works now :D 03.31.58 Quit uwe_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 03.49.21 Join uwe_ [0] (~uwe_@dslb-094-216-126-153.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 03.51.03 # good 03.52.43 # <__builtin> well, kind of 03.52.50 # <__builtin> I want it to handle two cases 03.52.50 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 03.53.07 # <__builtin> the games that don't need 8-directional input can have events fire on presses 03.53.21 # <__builtin> otherwise they trigger on releases... 03.54.49 # store current_tick when you process and lock till HZ/4 has passed 03.55.21 # <__builtin> good idea 03.56.20 Quit uwe_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 03.57.28 # if (processed) tick = current_tick; if(tick + LAST_FILTER_TICKS < current_tick) { processed=true; } 03.57.56 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.58.29 # I just went through all this with that selective bl patch the button system is a pita 04.00.19 # you will need to probably still read them and discard or just empty the cache 04.07.07 # <__builtin> I'll take a look into it tomorrow, gnite for now 04.07.10 # <__builtin> o/ 04.07.42 Quit CustosL1men (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 04.07.51 Join uwe_ [0] (~uwe_@dslb-088-076-232-082.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 04.14.23 Join CustosL1men [0] (~CustosLim@unaffiliated/cust0slim3n) 04.17.35 Join Kruppt [0] (~Krupptus@104.169.26.44) 04.21.46 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 04.24.34 Quit CustosL1men (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 04.27.00 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.27.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.29.40 Join CustosL1men [0] (~CustosLim@unaffiliated/cust0slim3n) 04.30.50 Quit Kruppt (Quit: Leaving) 04.34.33 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 04.38.18 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.39.50 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 04.47.23 Quit Bray90820 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04.54.30 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 05.04.26 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 05.13.11 Quit smoke_fumus (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 05.14.54 Join Bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@50-83-212-56.client.mchsi.com) 05.27.25 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 05.40.18 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.44.19 Quit Bray90820 () 05.46.16 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 06.07.53 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06.14.56 Quit marex-cloud (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.15.25 Quit WakiMiko_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.15.25 Quit cttttt (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.15.29 Join cttttt_ [0] (sid135570@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzomejamyycwqvko) 06.15.38 Join pixelma_ [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 06.15.38 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 06.15.42 Nick cttttt_ is now known as cttttt (sid135570@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzomejamyycwqvko) 06.15.51 Quit Elfish (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.15.53 Quit Jack87 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.16.19 Quit CustosL1men (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.16.20 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.16.20 Quit Kohlrabi (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.16.21 Quit snow_bckspc (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.16.41 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.16.47 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 06.18.31 Join Kohlrabi [0] (~kohlrabi@kohlio.de) 06.20.28 Join marex-cloud [0] (sid137234@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-olmrlsoxxlznsnrm) 06.21.04 Join CustosL1men [0] (~CustosLim@unaffiliated/cust0slim3n) 06.23.35 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2001:1608:12:1:13:3:3:7) 06.23.44 Join Bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@50-83-212-56.client.mchsi.com) 06.25.49 Quit Moarc (Quit: i znowu NADMUCHAŁ BALONA) 06.27.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.27.50 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06.29.44 Join WakiMiko_ [0] (~WakiMiko@unaffiliated/wakimiko) 06.29.59 Join snow_bckspc [0] (~snow_bcks@ganon.dot-server.net) 06.33.46 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 06.41.42 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.42.54 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 07.13.03 Quit idonob (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.13.19 Join idonob [0] (~Owner@S010610c37b922980.vs.shawcable.net) 07.15.19 Join JanC_ [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 07.16.23 Quit JanC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07.16.32 Nick JanC_ is now known as JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 07.27.16 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 07.34.59 Quit nlogex (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07.44.57 Quit __builtin (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07.57.52 Quit scorche (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.58.28 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 08.01.14 Quit naleo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.06.41 Quit scorche (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.09.56 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 08.12.41 Quit APLU (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 08.13.05 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@145.133.43.230) 08.26.25 # Bilgus, _builtin: the plugin button action system was to those 6 (I believe) actions in "global" place on purpose. If you need more than this then it should be kept to the single plugin. It was different for a while with having more actions but that lead to weird effects on some keypads which weren't fixable without breaking other keypads etc. 08.27.00 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.27.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.28.46 # _builtin (logs): also keep in mind that on some keypads you can't have button combos or just combos with one button (physically impossible, something not wired) 08.32.07 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.34.43 # combos with one specific button, I mean - e.g. on the Iaudio X5/M5 pad you could only use the power button/slider together with other buttons in combination. That's not advisable though as pressing power too long is also a hard power-off 08.35.04 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 08.35.49 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.49.17 # You mean the PLA actions? 08.50.19 # @ pixelma 08.51.19 Join Link8 [0] (~me@145.133.168.70) 08.52.16 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@145.133.43.230) 08.52.35 # yes, plugin lib action (just realised that my statement was missing the "reduced"). The other thing about button combos is a general statement 08.52.56 # actions too 08.53.18 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 08.55.48 Quit Link8 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.57.37 # as far as I understood you can use actions but you shouldn't put them into the lib again, just keep the ones you need in your plugin 08.58.48 # ones that aren't in the lib already, of course 08.59.10 # * pixelma seems not fully awaken yet 09.00.57 # I think that is what he has settled on either that or reading raw 09.04.25 # thanks for the info nite 09.05.05 # hi, I'm wondering if there was some news regarding the USB-audio support in Rockbox ? 09.06.21 Join APLU [0] (~mulx@eva.aplu.fr) 09.10.01 Quit edhelas (Quit: Leaving.) 09.20.22 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.27.17 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.14.02 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10.27.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.31.30 Join elensil [0] (~edhelas@2001:1c02:1903:d800:24a6:accf:518c:741f) 10.55.46 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@wks-50-63.mpi-sws.org) 10.55.46 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 10.55.46 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.07.41 Quit athidhep (Quit: athidhep) 11.10.33 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.50.51 Join uwe_mobile [0] (~uwe@static.173.76.9.176.clients.your-server.de) 11.53.13 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.208.231.245) 11.55.47 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 11.56.36 Join Jack87|Away [0] (Jack87@cryptkcoding.com) 11.56.36 Quit Jack87|Away (Changing host) 11.56.36 Join Jack87|Away [0] (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 11.57.00 Nick Jack87|Away is now known as Jack87 (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 12.10.33 Quit cttttt () 12.10.53 Join cttttt [0] (sid135570@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tsuwnttcsxiuaebx) 12.27.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.32.01 Join fujisan [0] (~fujisan@unaffiliated/fujisan) 12.42.19 Quit Elfish (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.42.32 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2001:1608:12:1:13:3:3:7) 12.47.05 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:7c14:e388:da6d:6bb6) 13.55.46 Quit fujisan (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) 14.17.55 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.22.26 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:4ff:d825:e923:ec19:a189) 14.26.47 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 14.27.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.31.53 Join rela_ [0] (~x@p200300764D2ECB006450FAB245D9CD50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.32.02 Quit rela_ (Client Quit) 15.32.18 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@61.148.243.15) 15.33.31 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.35.27 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.49.13 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 15.51.01 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@61.148.243.15) 15.53.49 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 16.10.11 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 16.14.41 Quit robertd1 (Quit: Leaving.) 16.15.03 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.208.231.245) 16.18.44 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@2001-18e8-2-28cc-f000-61c.dhcp6-bl.indiana.edu) 16.26.19 Join nlogex [0] (~filip@CPEa84e3f5c8563-CMa84e3f5c8560.cpe.net.fido.ca) 16.27.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.33.08 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 16.47.25 Join smoke_fumus [0] (~smoke_fum@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-117-149.telecom.by) 16.51.29 Quit robertd1 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 16.52.14 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.208.231.245) 16.55.05 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 16.57.24 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 17.00.35 Quit robertd1 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17.19.25 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.208.231.245) 17.26.40 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@61.148.243.15) 17.27.32 Quit robertd1 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.31.23 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.208.231.245) 17.38.16 Quit MrZeus_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.43.42 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 17.46.42 Join MrZeus [0] (~MrZeus@81.144.218.162) 17.47.52 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.49.01 Quit robertd1 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 18.07.05 Quit elensil (Quit: Leaving.) 18.08.49 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 18.16.22 Join naleo [0] (~naleo@unaffiliated/naleo) 18.26.10 Join paulk-collins [0] (~paulk@gagarine.paulk.fr) 18.27.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.31.15 Join Link8 [0] (~me@145.133.168.70) 18.40.54 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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