--- Log for 30.12.116 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 16 hours ago 00.18.51 Quit n3m9 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.21.46 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.1.0/20161208153507]) 00.28.43 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.36.53 Join mutnai [0] (6db91733@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.185.23.51) 00.37.47 Quit mutnai (Client Quit) 00.53.02 Quit ender` (Quit: C++ is a modern language where your parent can't touch your privates but your friends can!) 01.41.41 Quit paulk-collins_ (Quit: Leaving) 01.42.49 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 01.56.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.25.51 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 02.30.20 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@2601:143:8001:e5f1:907a:6a1:ebe1:b9c8) 02.55.28 Join fIorz [0] (nobody@rain.florz.de) 03.05.55 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit.) 03.40.51 Join x56 [0] (0x56@unaffiliated/x56) 03.56.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.20.32 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 05.06.26 Quit atsampson (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05.09.39 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:4ff:80a4:7194:1938:763c) 05.13.25 Join atsampson [0] (~ats@cartman.offog.org) 05.13.30 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@pool-108-51-84-48.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 05.21.12 Join treaki_ [0] (~treaki@p5B11CBA7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 05.24.57 Quit treaki__ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 05.31.29 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 05.42.08 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05.56.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.14.24 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@pool-108-51-84-48.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 06.21.04 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 06.24.40 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@pool-108-51-84-48.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 06.55.02 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 06.55.11 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 07.17.11 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 07.40.01 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:4ff:9926:be77:9575:da55) 07.44.13 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.56.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.00.37 Quit naleo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.15.33 Quit pixelma (Quit: .) 08.15.33 Quit amiconn (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 08.15.45 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.15.46 Join amiconn [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.17.35 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.27.49 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@pool-108-51-84-48.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 08.32.26 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.33.12 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@149-210-220-39.colo.transip.net) 08.34.30 Join Bray90820_ [0] (~bray90820@173-25-204-30.client.mchsi.com) 08.34.44 Quit Bray90820 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.44.07 Join ender [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.46.25 Quit ender` (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 08.51.01 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 09.56.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.19.58 Quit krnlyng (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10.34.40 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@37.165.48.152) 10.35.14 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@178.114.55.21.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 10.38.06 Join skapazzo [0] (~skapazzo@151.9.205.1) 10.39.05 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 10.47.19 Join Cu5tosLimen [0] (~CustosLim@unaffiliated/cust0slim3n) 10.47.19 # hi 10.47.38 # is there any device still being produced that runs RockBox ok ? 10.47.45 # I used sansa clip but it died 11.00.26 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@37.165.48.152) 11.02.42 # should hav bought more ;( 11.08.35 Join parchd_1 [0] (~dashavoo@host86-170-199-229.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) 11.08.54 Quit parchd_1 (Client Quit) 11.16.24 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.26.51 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@ren77-h01-176-151-188-9.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 11.45.31 # heh 11.45.33 # Cu5tosLimen: how did it die 11.45.35 # doesnt power up? 11.45.41 # i've got a desk drawer full of those things 11.45.49 # really need to figure out how to swap flash on them properly. 11.56.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.57.22 Quit edhelas (Quit: Leaving.) 11.59.33 # dongs, actually it seems like maybe it did not die but battery is just really low 12.00.28 # I have it in my car connected to ligher/power socket 12.00.37 # and it was not powering up 12.00.47 # but I drove around a bit and then it powered up again 12.00.56 # but it goes off quicly now 12.00.59 # I dunno 12.01.19 # I'm very sad that I can't have another though 12.02.17 # I'm looking at this for a backup now: http://www.lenco.com/p/xemio-767-bt/ 12.02.22 # but I know it will suck 12.02.59 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:ed9c:f2b7:2742:be1) 12.04.20 # I'm also considering getting a phone (something like wileyfox) and using that in my car 12.14.09 # well you can get replacement batteries 12.14.17 # those are not bad, i swapped a few out 12.14.26 # as long as you get the legit one and not some china knockoff 12.16.01 # biggest problem with those is after some years flash wears out and it just stops booting 12.16.09 # cuz they used the shittiest nand they could find 12.17.00 # Cu5tosLimen: If it works when connected to USB power, but won't stay powered up otherwise, then dongs is most likely right that it's the battery. 12.17.46 # where would I get replacement batteries though ? 12.17.50 # does it use something standard ? 12.17.51 # I've opened a couple of those myself. Not the easiest in the world, and it leaves some marks, but done well it won't be a problem. 12.18.10 # Cu5tosLimen: i got some legit and fake sets offebay 12.18.54 # man this is making me suffer from Le Wrong Generation syndrome ;( 12.19.15 # http://www.ebay.com/itm/401163826582 i.e. this is legit 12.19.31 # too young to exlore space ... to late to have mp3 players that I can still run rockbox on :) 12.19.39 # http://www.ebay.com/itm/401051761647 12.19.41 # this is not 12.19.49 # actually im not so sure about 1st lin keither, sec 12.20.29 # ya 1st one is ok 12.20.34 # ok 12.20.38 # err,, tahts zip 12.20.44 # dongs, ye is what I have 12.20.50 # oh you have zip? not clipp? 12.20.53 # clip+ 12.20.56 # well clip zip 12.21.05 # ehrm ... man now you are asking some tough questions 12.21.12 # let me see 12.21.36 # ok sorry - I have sansa clip+ 12.21.38 # 3 of them 12.21.39 # zip has silver buttons 12.21.43 # Clip+ has two colour screen, zip full colour 12.21.54 # yeah mine is monochrome 12.22.05 # or no - the two colours 12.22.09 # yellow and blue 12.22.18 # That's the Clip+, all right. 12.22.27 # ye is clip+ 12.22.48 # http://www.ebay.com/itm/361835662567 this is legit real one, the batts i have out of my clip"'s have same BAK 323036P code 12.23.34 # $17 for a battery that size? That's quite a bit. 12.24.05 # ye and then prob like $50 for shipping to south africa 12.24.16 # Wonder what the dimensions are. If you can find a battery of appropriate physical dimensions from a reputable seller, you should be able to use that. 12.24.20 # TorC: for some reason they 're all around that price 12.24.34 # probly same reason clip+'s themselves are going for around 60$ now 12.24.38 # TorC, I'm kinda also thinking that 12.24.49 # i snagged a bunch for <$20 years ago 12.25.17 # Interesting. When I made my bike light I got 3ah cells for about $6 each. 12.27.33 # yeah RC lipos are cheap as shit 12.28.42 # https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beMcITVdZcE 12.28.47 # yeah I dunno replacing flash will be shitty 12.28.58 # Guess that's just the sweetspot of price/performance. 12.29.06 # yea its a cunt to open it up 12.29.19 # I would assume flash is that black block next to SD card slot 12.30.03 # right. replacing it isnt a problem with right tools 12.30.07 # the problem is getting filesystem + shit back on it 12.30.19 # There was discussion of replacing flash in the players a few days ago. Basically, the chips are apparently not available anywhere, even though they were made by the zillion. 12.30.20 # one of these days I need to get off my lazy ass and do it on a 16gig nand 12.30.38 # TorC: ehh, you can definitely get standard nand flash to go there 12.30.41 Join salty-horse [0] (~salty-hor@unaffiliated/salty-horse) 12.31.25 # hi. are sgt-puzzles enabled to be compiled by default, or do I need to set some flag? (If they are enabled by default, and they don't build, I'm guessing it's because my platform doesn't support it) 12.32.14 # http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/micron-technology-inc/MT29F64G08CBABAWP-B-TR/557-1676-1-ND/6207215 12.32.19 # i.e this shit for 8gb 12.33.08 # and all nand flash is standard pinout 12.34.00 # Maybe. It would be nice if it worked. I'm not the one to get it working, but if someone else figures it out I might be able to follow. 12.34.21 # sux so much ;( 12.34.37 # Apparently the nand used has an integrated SD controller of some kind. 12.34.51 # no 12.34.57 # thats what the SoC has 12.35.15 # it has nand flash controller which is interfaced to as if its a sd 12.35.28 # flash chip is regular thing. 12.35.36 # hey though ... there is actually an option I'm not thinking about ;) - can just use raspberry pi maybe 12.36.46 # yeah but HUEG 12.37.20 # well its in my car 12.37.22 # so meh 12.37.43 # also it's not automotive grade 12.38.13 # dongs: Try about 02:00 on Dec 27th for the relevant bits on AMS nand. 12.38.16 # (15:59:58) Saratoga: Bilgus_ph: it's a weird nand with integrated SD controller on package, they apparently made up to 16 GB versions and they're in tons of stuff, but no data sheet and I haven't seen them for sale individually 12.38.16 # (16:00:18) Saratoga: It's tsop so in theory it could be soldered 12.38.16 # (16:00:50) Saratoga: But without a data sheet or even pinout it's hard to find a compatible part 12.38.16 DBUG Enqueued KICK TorC 12.38.16 # (16:01:57) [Saint]: Yeah I'll bet. 12.39.30 # i bet they're bottom binned sandisk SDs 12.40.04 # oh whoa, fuck. you are right. pinout doenst match standard nand 12.40.13 # i thought the sd controller was on-chip and just talked to nand 12.40.41 # wire an sd card on it lol 12.40.49 # eyah, thats next logical thing 12.40.59 # wire it to the sd slot 12.41.05 # it doesnt boot from SD slot 12.41.14 # so wire it there 12.41.52 # disconnect that and wire internal shit there? 12.41.54 # i guess so 12.43.38 # I might wonder if an sd card could be wired to it, but that would be tricky with the (lack of) space in the player. 12.44.33 # I think Bilgus made a FW patch that would boot from uSD if nand was bad. 12.45.28 Join paulk-collins [0] (~paulk@gagarine.paulk.fr) 12.45.55 # I don't know if there's hope for already dead players, but maybe that should be added to the mainline if it doesn't interfere with normal usage as a protection against players completely dying faster than they could. 12.46.43 # Tell people "if your nand dies, just load RB onto you uSD with a computer, and you'll be good to go. Just don't expect to use OF ever again." 12.47.27 # its using one hell of a crazy sd slot, too 12.47.30 # I'd be glad to install it on mine, and the ones I maintain as insurance. 12.47.34 # ive neverseen the ones with connectors on the sides 12.48.15 # or maybe you could hunt for sandisk cards that has a similar controller 12.48.40 # ones that don't have a separate controller in them 12.48.44 # might work 12.48.46 # this is what I was thinking about actually: https://getchip.com/pages/pocketchip 12.49.38 # then you wire 2124324234 more accessories to it and suddenly it's not very practical 12.49.45 # The description I read didn't sound so much like an SD slot, as just a NAND with integrated SD controller and strange pinout, though the SD controller seems like it should imply a theoretically SD compatible pinout if the traces can be put together. 12.50.15 # That if is probably a big if, though, considering the confined space. 12.50.29 # so is it raw nand or sd? 12.50.34 # TorC: no i meant the microsd socket on the board. 12.50.46 # Ah. 12.51.18 # http://media.digikey.com/Photos/Molex/1040310811.JPG normally something like this with pins on the botom end 12.51.27 # but the sansa one is like... 5 pins on both sides 12.51.43 # also its reversed 12.52.33 # reversing it allows the card label to face forward during insertion 12.52.37 # which is nice 12.53.29 # freesoftware: The quote I posted a few minutes ago suggests to me that it's raw nand with integrated SD controller, which should be approximately SD. Admittedly I don't have the HW experience you apparently do, so consider me untrustworthy here. 12.53.49 # lol i don't 12.54.05 # but idk if it interfaces as raw nand or sd 12.55.14 # Look back to late Dec 26th/early Dec 27th UTC for context on the quotes I posted. 12.55.54 Join johnb3 [0] (~johnb3@p5B296615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.58.07 # BTW, looks like the Clip series batteries are probably custom designed to fit the space the engineers at Sandisk had available in each model. 12.58.30 # Regarding the modified boot loader: it was Mihail on the forums. 12.58.52 # You could check the specs to see if they could all use the same battery (they've got pretty similar cases). 12.59.09 # Thanks for the info on the bootloader. 12.59.14 # TorC nothing the chinese can't do 12.59.26 # I had asked him if he would commit it, but he said he still needed some code cleanup (that was about 2 months ago). 12.59.42 # though if you're willing to give up the clip you can wire a BL-5C in 12.59.49 # total 1000mAh 13.00.02 # I will upload it for clip+ and fuzev2. 13.00.09 # one of my clips is connected to 20Ah rc lipo 13.00.16 # i get like 3 weeks of runtime off that 13.00.26 # I bet. Usually if 13.00.38 # 24/7 runtime that is 13.00.38 # I need more runtime, I just plug it into my bike light battery. 13.01.18 # That's a 14.8V 6Ah critter. Plenty to run the zip for a loooong time 13.01.33 # I bet with that monster of a battery. 13.02.43 # hmm you know 13.03.00 # i was first looking at nor flash pinout which is why i thought it was wrong 13.03.04 # but looking at proper nand now 13.03.07 # its matching 13.04.17 # well yeah it makes sense 13.04.29 # that way it can be used as either 13.04.58 # fuc, or not 13.05.00 # wtf 13.05.05 # weird fucking sandisk 13.05.07 # https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ac4vsytw0ykx9/bootFromSD 13.05.27 # this will boot from SD if mount of internal memory fails. 13.05.44 # I have one clip+ where this happens every now and then. 13.05.46 # what if i desolder the nand chip? 13.05.52 # freesoftware: i just did that 13.06.17 # does the soc not have some debug mode? 13.06.21 # or sd boot mode? 13.06.25 # it connects to USB as dead drive 13.06.29 # same as if nand is dead 13.08.42 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51304.msg237134.html#msg237134 is thread on the bootloader patch. 13.08.47 # johnb3: Thanks. I've downloaded the clip+ version. 13.09.59 Quit johnb3 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 13.12.59 # http://i.imgur.com/392Yvof.jpg anyway doesnt match standard pinout. GND/VSS stuff is slightly different place etc 13.13.30 # definmtiely more pins than one would need for even 8bit sdio tho 13.17.30 # actually right side sorta matches if I take some liberty with NC pins 13.26.49 # http://i.imgur.com/wh8KbTN.jpg 13.26.50 # hmm 13.27.29 # pin 39 goes somewehre, but is NC normally on nand. 13.27.33 # same for 34/35 13.28.20 # 23 is NC but its clearly connected to gnd 13.32.57 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B296615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.35.31 # johnb2: so i wonder how i get that .bin into a dead clip? 13.35.33 # too late right? 13.35.38 # just into one thats kinda dead? 13.35.59 # yep, I guess too late. 13.36.27 # < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/wh8KbTN.jpg i mapped out the flash chip, it does sorta look like x16 nand with a couple exceptions... 13.36.36 # unless they made all those connections for no reason.. 13.36.42 # as mine is not always flawed and took the opportunity to install it, just in case it completely dies. 13.37.05 # s/and/I 13.39.07 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@37.165.48.152) 13.42.06 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 13.43.30 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 13.44.29 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@149-210-220-39.colo.transip.net) 13.44.44 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@114.255.40.10) 13.46.02 Quit edhelas (Client Quit) 13.49.04 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.56.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.05.18 # weird, where i live dead screens and headphone jacks are far more common 14.05.31 # never heard anyone had a failed nand 14.21.51 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B296615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.36.55 # Failing NAND here also on Clip Zip. That forum post just gave me hope for mine. Thanks. 14.45.00 Quit salty-horse (Quit: Leaving) 14.45.54 # nice. i know in the pile of dead ones in my drawer, I should have at least one thats sorta turns on sometimes (takes a few minutes to boot) 14.45.58 # maybe I can fix that one 14.46.29 Join Bilgus_Ph [0] (41ba23be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.186.35.190) 14.47.11 Quit Horrorca1 (Quit: leaving) 14.47.19 # time to look at clipp jtag pinout. 14.47.20 # >Werent Me.. >> TorC I think Bilgus made a FW patch that would boot from uSD if nand was bad. 14.47.27 # I think Pamaury did 14.47.54 # what the hell... why is jtag on the DISPLAY connector 14.48.44 # oh, i see 14.48.51 # its the staggered row of stuff behind 14.48.54 # er below display 14.48.56 # it has jtag? 14.49.15 # yes 14.49.27 # woah 14.49.28 # https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaClip#JTAG back side of pcb, under display connector 14.49.32 # does it have serial? 14.49.43 # not exactly user firendly connector but its doable 14.50.31 # don't you need equipments for jtag though? 14.50.48 # like... a debugger? yeah 14.52.50 # https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/SansaClip/sansa_clipplus_3.jpg 14.52.59 # haha mine is rev16 14.53.03 # welp, i'm here hoping for jz, sold my zip some time ago 14.53.17 # kinda miss it, never knew i needed 22hr battery 14.54.04 # you can hack a jtag reader with an arduino or a FTDI2232 14.55.17 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.55.46 # hack = make not very clear there sorry 14.56.12 # make not very clear = your not wrong 14.56.21 # your = you're 14.56.27 # 8gb was biggest clip right? 14.56.33 # yes 14.57.00 # is the nand slc or mlc? 14.57.16 # lol ill try again sorry phone is kinda hard to be elaborate 14.57.24 # who knows. i'm sure its the shittiest garbge sandisc could find 14.57.30 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B296615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.58.03 # we all know what you meant Bilgus_Ph 14.58.05 # you can make (read hack together) a Jtag debugger with an Arduino or FTDI2232 14.59.01 # what do you need to make a jtag debugger btw? 14.59.10 # as in, hw requirements 14.59.27 # if you want a good one, you need $. if you want junk, then anything will do, even parallel port. 14.59.52 # yep just need to be aware of voltage limits 3v3 typically 15.00.22 # pc parallel ports are typ 5v so you need to level shift 15.00.40 # can you bitbang it 15.00.53 # proper zener diode or an actual level shift chip 15.01.10 # generally jtag state machine works at any frequency so yeah 15.01.18 # yes you can bitbang 15.03.16 # If I were to actually need it I think I'd get a real purpose made one I was just playing around with it when I hacked one together 15.03.26 # i still need to buy a screwdriver to open my m2, screw you T2 15.03.38 # make a screwdriver 15.03.42 # how 15.03.48 # file 15.03.53 # uhh 15.04.27 # i have some chunks of scrap metal but they'd break before i can file them properly 15.05.04 # this is torx t2 i think? fortunately not security 15.06.22 # torx is an easy one to get pretty easy to use a flat head on too unless it is super tight 15.06.39 # sorry I didn't realize it was so hard to get things in SA 15.06.51 # thing is i don't have anything small enough 15.07.06 # SA? 15.08.28 # (alsmost stripped it squeezing a T5 in too) 15.08.48 # sorry different person thought you were in South Africa 15.08.57 # wat 15.09.14 # I've used hex keys on torx and even ground slots in them 15.09.51 # still, i have nothing small enough, i think it's 1-2mm 15.09.57 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@pool-108-51-84-48.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 15.10.03 # sometimes I do it after they are out too that way next time it won't be a PITA 15.10.40 # i'd like to replace it with a PH000 or something too 15.11.58 # I ran into these ones on something I don't remember maybe a laptop display but anyway they were so small and so tight they stripped my driver out was left with a divot the size of a bic pen tip 15.12.22 # those got drilled 15.12.26 # lol i also stripped my driver on a stripped screw 15.13.00 # anyways good luck bbl 15.13.09 Quit Bilgus_Ph (Quit: Page closed) 15.15.36 # As you wer talking about dying dispays: I have a clip+ which has a readable display if at full contrast and hooked up to usb. When unplugged, it's faintly readable if the battery is still fully loaded. If contrast is set to a low value it isn't readable in either case. 15.16.14 # Any ideas what happened here? 15.16.28 # *displays 15.17.30 # johnb2: different revisions have diffferent way to handle brightness 15.17.35 # has it always been that way>? 15.17.38 # or did it die overtime 15.17.48 # maybe yours is getting misdetected as wrong thing? 15.18.23 Join rela_ [0] (~x@p200300764D68AA00A0B011247A05BFD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.18.47 # Actually I bought a bunch of 5 on *bay as defective. THis one came this way. Another had the power switch ripped off. 15.18.57 # It happens also in OF. 15.19.34 # a 3rd one was stuck in 'refreshing media' and I was able to fix it. 15.19.38 Quit rela_ (Changing host) 15.19.38 Join rela_ [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 15.19.51 Quit rela (Disconnected by services) 15.19.53 Nick rela_ is now known as rela (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 15.21.17 # For the one with the display bug I resorted now to voice and talk files for listening to audiobooks. 15.26.19 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 15.28.32 # one wire to go 15.29.49 # that one just had its screen die over time 15.30.03 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B296615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.30.11 # that's common with old (5+ yr) ones 15.36.14 # hm 2.8V I/O on the clip is that right 15.36.38 # http://i.imgur.com/51tHgIW.jpg heh 15.37.33 # that looks dodgy 15.39.32 # wow ingenic is still using 130nm in 2010 15.46.10 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@114.255.40.10) 15.48.05 # thats not even the worst part 15.48.09 # the worst part is tehy're still using mips 15.50.21 Join JanC_ [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 15.50.54 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 15.51.36 Quit JanC (Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) 15.51.36 Nick JanC_ is now known as JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 15.52.17 # - Target interface speed: 1000 kHz (Fixed) 15.52.18 # - J-Link found 2 JTAG devices. Core ID: 0x07926F0F (None) 15.52.19 # nice 15.52.49 # thats a 926e core, so i did something right at least 15.52.59 # i wonder why there's 2 devices on the chain? boundary scan and actual core? 15.53.57 # oh, 'ARM ETB' 15.55.18 Join kleinerbasti [0] (5dc09eca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.192.158.202) 15.56.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.59.56 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 16.00.11 Quit skapazzo (Quit: Lost terminal) 16.03.45 # mh fuck. largest nand i can find laying around is 2megs 16.04.42 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B296615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.07.04 # oo 16.07.07 # found 4gbit 16.07.15 # i guess better than nothign for a test 16.08.49 # NOTHING wrong with mips 16.09.22 # lpl is forum down 16.09.50 # 500MB? 16.10.10 # i wish i can solder 16.10.10 # yes 16.10.20 # seems like a useful skill 16.10.23 # better than 16mbit i found earlier :p 16.10.47 # i have 8GB 16.10.51 # but it's bga 16.10.53 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.242.214.237) 16.11.27 # and probably emmc as well 16.12.27 # nah it's from a flash drive 16.18.34 # allright new flash soldered 16.18.58 # 60% doesn't work 16.19.32 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16.20.33 # haha 16.20.34 # nice 16.20.37 # i got a 450meg flash drive 16.21.15 # hm no lookin at wrong stuff 16.21.26 # need to get a better usb cable and short taht thing that makes it come up as usb device 16.22.05 # this usb cable is so trash if i touch it, it fucking disconnects 16.23.35 # hahaha 16.23.55 # is that a + or zip? 16.24.15 # + 16.24.23 # mini usb huh 16.24.28 # but flash didnt explode and power consumption is normal, so im gonna see how this goes 16.24.31 # yeah 16.24.54 # i have this mini usb cable that came with a 2006 canon camera, still perfectly fine 16.25.05 # it's also soft unlike most cables these days 16.25.09 # that is exactly what i have 16.25.12 # white canon mini usbn 16.25.16 # woah 16.25.23 # mine is perfect though 16.25.32 # says canon on the back side too, and it is probably about as old as yours if not more 16.25.37 # yea i yanked on it too many times 16.25.50 # to be fair i don't use it too often 16.26.45 # well cables are cheap so you can always get another (10) 16.27.28 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 16.30.51 # ok 16.30.54 # 32meg raw partition is up 16.30.55 # lets see 16.31.02 # i guess ill put that bootsd bin on it 16.31.44 # anyone got uh 16.31.47 # origimage_bin 16.33.56 # if I can read stuff back after writing it, means the flash works 16.34.03 # and if it works im buying some 16gb nand tomorrwo 16.34.16 # and opening sansa clip+ 16GB resale biz 16.41.45 # nope, readback is 0, dongs. 16.41.54 # master plan thwarted 16.42.13 # now i gotta wait for someone who knows if I can load some code into ram w/jtag and test if flash controller works at all 17.27.59 Join b-f-1 [0] (~user@s5596c859.adsl.online.nl) 17.32.58 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-246-151.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 17.34.32 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@pool-108-51-84-48.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 17.39.06 Part b-f-1 ("ERC (IRC client for Emacs 24.5.1)") 17.43.03 # 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all gone 19.37.06 # right 19.45.18 # oh crap 19.45.26 # powering up by battery was different than booting rom usb 19.45.27 # from 19.45.31 # maybe now i can try the loader stuff 19.50.55 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@145.133.43.230) 19.53.32 # hm no diff 19.53.41 # stuff at 0 is still looks mapped to rom or osmeshit 19.56.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.00.12 # I can get you the 32mb partition in a few days if you have need for it 20.06.58 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B296615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.07.36 Join naleo [0] (~naleo@unaffiliated/naleo) 20.10.05 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 20.12.57 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@pool-108-51-84-48.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 21.15.35 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 21.20.44 Join Saratoga [0] (47e27552@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.226.117.82) 21.21.02 Join hhhhhhhhjhhjhjkk [0] (48fdf3fe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.72.253.243.254) 21.21.55 Part hhhhhhhhjhhjhjkk 21.22.18 # dongs: I googled the nand chips in the newer clips, I don't think they're pin compatible with normal nand, probably why you got the 32 MB partition 21.23.04 # 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