--- Log for 08.02.117 Server: adams.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 5 hours ago 00.06.24 Quit kylemsguy (Remote host closed the connection) 00.10.09 Quit furrywolf (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.26.07 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.40.16 Quit skapazzo (Quit: leaving) 00.41.14 Join ungali [0] (ungali@unaffiliated/ungali) 00.41.36 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.47.51 Quit paulk-collins (Remote host closed the connection) 00.51.41 Join nlogex [0] (~filip@CPE30469a4d21ac-CMa84e3f5c8560.cpe.net.fido.ca) 00.58.01 Quit nlogex (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.58.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.59.46 Quit prof_wolfff (Remote host closed the connection) 01.01.28 Join furrywolf [0] (~randyg@72-62-181-153.pools.spcsdns.net) 01.04.11 Part robertd1 01.05.54 Quit furrywolf (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.06.45 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-197-130.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.21.57 # <__builtin> grr... what did I break?! 01.27.49 # <__builtin> why is SDL suddenly trying to initialize threads!? 01.28.00 # <__builtin> :( 01.46.53 Join nlogex [0] (~filip@CPE30469a4d21ac-CMa84e3f5c8560.cpe.net.fido.ca) 01.55.24 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 01.58.03 Quit girafe (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.59.44 # <__builtin> there we go, Abe is running on hardware :D 02.00.03 # <__builtin> As in: http://abe.sourceforge.net/ 02.02.45 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 02.10.38 Quit ender` (Quit: The greatest trick god ever pulled was building the universe to look exactly like he didn't exist.) 02.12.52 Join furrywolf [0] (~randyg@70-6-239-187.pools.spcsdns.net) 02.13.54 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.24.34 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 02.28.31 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.30.55 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 02.36.25 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.56.14 Join kylemsguy [0] (~kyle@lnsm2-toronto47-142-116-102-225.internet.virginmobile.ca) 02.58.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.03.44 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 03.17.37 Quit dunx (Quit: WeeChat 1.5) 03.18.23 Join dunx [0] (~george@edinhacklab/member/duncan) 03.40.28 Quit uwe_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.41.12 Join uwe_ [0] (~uwe_@dslb-088-067-188-165.088.067.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 04.02.10 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 04.07.51 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 04.58.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.36.32 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 05.36.59 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@140-182-74-26.ssl-vpn.indiana.edu) 05.51.29 # __builtin: are you the author of that game? 06.28.16 Join alexweis_ [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 06.29.04 Quit furrywolf (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.31.11 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 06.39.39 Join smoke_fumus [0] (~smoke_fum@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-64-92.telecom.by) 06.58.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.59.04 Quit nlogex (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.02.38 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 07.02.54 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 07.15.17 Quit man_in_shack (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.19.19 Quit ungali (Quit: ungali) 07.27.14 Quit kylemsguy (Remote host closed the connection) 08.07.29 Quit amiconn (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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Binary or something more? 13.47.15 # pamaury: which firmware version? Can you upload it somewhere? 13.48.16 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@193.85.203.185) 13.50.57 # wodz: just binaries and also a "cloner" tool, I guess it's the tool used with ingenic boot rom to write to the flash. The total is quite big (~50MB). I've asked hunterloo if I can share it publicily, but he is probably sleeping now 13.51.03 # it's for version 1.01Beta 13.51.41 # pamaury_: No traces of documentation anywhere? 13.52.15 # what If I moved the rockbox bootlogo out of boot loader and into fw? 13.54.46 # no, he told he can get pcb pictures and try to get more but he is unsure if he can 13.57.03 # pamaury_: If OF is linux based we can do app port. This should be faster. 13.59.05 # hey thats 768 bytes 14.00.53 # wodz: that's a fair discussion to have at this point indeed. Especially since it's going to be uneasy to modify uboot. Also it uses ubifs 14.01.36 # one drawback of that is that modifying the firmware upgrade will mean to read/write ubifs, I don't know if there are useful libraries for that 14.02.36 # also I haven't looked at the firmware upgrade, there are a bunch of files (uboot.bin, kernel.bin, etc) and a bigger file (update.upt) that seems to contain all the others. I don't know if it's a raw flash image or if it has more structure 14.03.29 # pamaury_: repacking ubifs can always be done though loop mounting, no? 14.03.55 # only on linux, and we want to avoid redistributing binaries if possible 14.04.05 # for rbutil that's impractical for example 14.08.49 # damn, no easy solution available apparently 14.14.23 # [INFO] Total size of new image: 133729 bytes 14.14.23 # So uh how could I make the dame logo take up less space or ho much push back on moving show logo to fw? ORRR can we put the logo in userland? 14.15.58 # I vaguely remember that payload is compressed. Images usually compress much better then code 14.17.10 Join Mihail [0] (252d7a2d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.45.122.45) 14.18.11 # Bilgus: we already show logo in fw after init and clean lcd 14.18.20 Quit lebellium_z3c (Quit: Bye) 14.20.16 # pamaury_: This might be of interest https://github.com/jrspruitt/ubi_reader 14.20.33 # ok so really no harm no foul if I remove it from bootloader on as3525? 14.22.56 # removing logo form bootloader not very good since it will show half time 14.25.08 # half time? 14.25.41 # half time of boot (~0.5s) 14.26.15 # wodz: maybe we can avoid linux totally by tweaking uboot. There is a "recovery" kernel, I have no idea what it does, maybe we can install rockbox there and change the uboot command to boot it first. Or maybe we can simply bypass uboot altogether. I need to have a look at the binary 14.26.42 # If the firmware upgrade really is the raw nand image, there are plenty of options 14.27.01 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.27.29 # pamaury_: It would be 10000 faster and better to have some contact with tech guys from them 14.27.56 # I'll ask him 14.28.07 # well somethings gotta give if its strings, logo, or code idc but the logo seems the best candidate 14.28.55 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 14.29.06 # I'd say up the delay in fw to make up for it but whhy? 14.29.30 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.29.52 Join paulk-collins [0] (~paulk@gagarine.paulk.fr) 14.31.40 # what if we pull the logo out of FW image and load it into mem inside the boot loader? 14.32.58 Quit wodz (Quit: Ex-Chat) 14.37.22 # it still not very good as it would be at last stage of bootloader (after full init and mount) and have little time to show 14.53.19 # smaller logo? 14.54.16 # uh less black in logo I doubt that would free up much but would make it more compressible 14.55.11 # thats about all I have next is screw it the logo is more important than code/strings 14.55.30 # cleanup useless code? 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