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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/) 13.21.58 # peter_kg do you have external storage on this device? 13.24.46 Join peter_kg [0] (Trillian@dslb-084-063-244-018.084.063.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 13.26.04 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 13.27.13 Join [Saint] [0] (~sinner@rockbox/staff/saint) 13.29.38 # no, unfortunately not 13.30.06 # it just has a mini-usb-port for connection with a pc 13.31.54 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-89-176-102-19.net.upcbroadband.cz) 13.45.28 # so this dump of the player does it have the firmware in it? 13.47.22 # also is it an image or just the files coppied straight? 13.49.07 # I just copied the files 13.49.37 # But I also have a firmware-file from the cowon-homepage 13.50.36 # yeah but that won't rebuild the fs and you already tried uploading it 13.51.09 # I see... 13.51.20 # I was going to say maybe you could just write the whole fs in with the tcc tool 13.51.56 # indeed...this isn't possible 13.52.44 # well given someone with another device maybe they could dump it 13.53.33 # not sure how to find someone. The player is from 2007 13.55.37 # Hmmm, lebellium doesn't seem to have that one 13.56.30 # the player had a big brother: iaudio u7 13.56.55 # it was released a couple of years alter 13.56.58 # later 13.58.01 # <[Saint]> You _might_ get lucky on the forums, or via Headfi et al. 13.58.26 # <[Saint]> But you don't just have to find someone with the player, you need to find someone with the player who's prepared to risk destroying it. 13.58.34 # <[Saint]> Two entirely different creatures. 13.59.22 # ou 13.59.35 # * gevaerts isn't sure if that's actually the problem 14.00.15 # I mean, you need to get at the flash on *your* player, through the FTL. 14.00.47 # FTL? 14.00.48 # tcctool can upload and run code on the thing, but that doesn't magically give you code that does that 14.00.53 # Flash Translation Layer 14.00.57 # The wear levelling thing 14.01.21 # From our point of view, it's mainly there to make accessing data hard :) 14.01.40 # oh no! 14.02.46 # Now, *if* the U3 uses the same FTL as the D2, the rockbox code might be a start 14.03.09 # (although rockbox never got proper write support, so that might not actually be good enough) 14.03.11 # <[Saint]> That's a very big if. 14.03.19 # the usb-connect-function, right? The player lacks the ability to populate usb-disk-access 14.03.28 # <[Saint]> No. 14.04.06 # <[Saint]> USB host mode is incidental to the FTL. Kinda related in the fact that one relies on the other, but not really much outside that, 14.04.15 # When you have *that*, knowing exact partition layouts and the like starts getting useful, and that's when the owner of another U3 comes in 14.05.08 # <[Saint]> If things drastically changed between D2 and D3 I wouldn't expect they suddenly dug up ghosts again for the U* series unless it shares a lot of hardware. 14.05.24 # <[Saint]> I would bet they're just using whatever FTL they got handed by the silicon fabricant. 14.05.51 # Back when I "bricked" my c250 in a similar way (as in the firmware didn't boot and recovery mode refused to cooperate) I was lucky in that rockbox already supported the device and the flash on that one is basically an sd card. Your case is a *lot* trickier 14.06.06 # * gevaerts spent two or three full days on that one... 14.07.26 # <[Saint]> Even if it's documented it's still incredibly non-trivial. If you're talking about reverse engineering an FTL completely it's easily hundreds of man hours work for a skilled embedded developer. 14.07.34 # <[Saint]> Joe Consumer may as well slap mud around. 14.07.39 # I might be too pessimistic here (and I'm not too familiar with cowon stuff, so that might easily be the case), but unless you find a service manual that describes how to fully reset things I don't think it's worth spending too much time on 14.07.41 # it was so *easy* to produce my case....just a linux-computer and a few button-presses 14.07.50 # Oh, indeed 14.08.49 # <[Saint]> I didn;t get around to the backlog yet. I thought initially you just needed a firmware dump. 14.08.51 # * gevaerts admits that bricking his c250 required writing stupid bugs in code, but he *will* point out that at least one normal user encountered the exact same issue merely by using a mac 14.08.51 # worst thing is: Cowon stopped support in germany. Meanwhile even their homepage is down. 14.09.13 # <[Saint]> But now I see there's a _lot_ of work for you before this dump would even be useful to you. 14.09.26 # Well, "merely by using a mac" meaning "formatting the thing as HFS instead of FAT" 14.10.01 # * [Saint] wonders what it was that taught consumers these barbaric traits. 14.10.13 # It wasn't me! 14.10.36 # <[Saint]> I mean, I don't wish to rub it in, but who ever thinks "maybe I'll just format this embedded device, it'll be a good idea", and mor eimportantly, why do they think this? 14.10.40 # <[Saint]> it's a recurring theme. 14.10.41 # you know that my old player did raise four times in value ? 14.11.01 # Anyway, I figure there *might* be a magic button combination that tells the firmware to ignore the data it sees and reformat it on boot. If that's the case, it might fix your issue 14.11.11 # bought it for 80 bucks. now people sell it on ebay for over 300 14.11.34 # That means an "untested, for spares" one might still get you 80 :) 14.12.33 # they are so rare meanwhile. I you really wanna buy an U3 you have to wait weeks or months until one will show up on ebay 14.13.10 # are there secret button-combinations known for other cowon-players? 14.14.05 # <[Saint]> There's only like, four buttons on the thing. 14.14.13 # <[Saint]> It's a small finite list. Find out. :) 14.14.28 # it's not just the money-value. I used this player for five years, DAILY! It's actually okay the flash got faulty after this 14.15.00 # surprised the battery didn't die first 14.16.34 # <[Saint]> I assure you it's not healthy... 14.16.43 Join cc___ [0] (~ac@2001:910:113f:1:6a05:caff:fe1c:1627) 14.17.02 # I assure you the flash is worse 14.18.29 # <[Saint]> I doubt that. 14.18.47 # <[Saint]> Unless you're lumping filesystem and flash together into a heap. 14.21.00 # Never had trouble with the battery though 14.21.46 # <[Saint]> I would pretty much guarantee you've shed at least 20% of the usable lifetime. 14.21.56 # <[Saint]> Your battery doesn't defy physics. :) 14.22.16 # batteries are easy to find 14.22.36 # It says in the manual how to reset to factory defaults 14.22.38 # usually batteries are just dead after 3 or 4 years 14.22.41 # <[Saint]> And irrelevant on players with trashed filesystems. 14.22.52 # exactly 14.23.03 # but that requires pausing in playback and doing a button combo 14.23.17 # <[Saint]> Bilgus: yeah, I presume that revolves around having an intact filesystem though. 14.23.30 # how is it possible the player still shows a logo with firmware-version? 14.23.32 # exactly 14.23.49 # the logo is in the firmware 14.24.06 # ...and the firmware is...where? 14.24.16 # <[Saint]> a segregated section of NAND. 14.24.46 # <[Saint]> or, possibly - but less commonly, a distinct NAND. 14.24.52 # anyways peter if you could find the factory default routine in the fw you could write one that jumps to this routine, but this is a tall order with no sources 14.25.23 # after I damaged the player with testdisk I ran "fdisk -l" on linux. It showed four partitions and a faulty partition-table 14.25.54 # but now you can't connect to the disk no? 14.26.12 # no, after plugging out, acces was not possible anymore 14.26.17 # <[Saint]> or rather more likely in reality "a correct partition table with an identifier it didn't recognize". 14.26.39 # or a missing magic string 14.26.44 # <[Saint]> right. 14.26.52 # fdisk -l /dev/sdi 14.26.52 # Platte /dev/sdi: 4060 MByte, 4.060.086.272 Byte 14.26.52 # 125 Köpfe, 62 Sektoren/Spur, 1023 Zylinder, zusammen 7.929.856 Sektoren 14.26.52 DBUG Enqueued KICK peter_kg 14.26.52 # Einheiten = Sektoren von 1 × 512 = 512 Bytes 14.26.52 # Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes 14.26.52 *** Alert Mode level 1 14.26.52 # I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes 14.26.52 *** Alert Mode level 2 14.26.52 # Festplattenidentifikation: 0x6f20736b 14.26.53 *** Alert Mode level 3 14.26.53 # Das sieht nicht wie eine Partitionstabelle aus. 14.26.54 *** Alert Mode level 4 14.26.54 # Sie haben wahrscheinlich das falsche Gerät ausgewählt. 14.26.54 *** Alert Mode level 5 14.26.54 # Gerät boot. Anfang Ende Blöcke Id System 14.26.56 # Partitionstabelleneinträge sind nicht in Platten-Reihenfolge 14.27.01 # <[Saint]> eeeek, can we not. 14.27.06 # sorry 14.27.16 # <[Saint]> pastebin net time. :) 14.27.17 # <[Saint]> x 14.27.21 # <[Saint]> *next 14.27.36 # it reads: "this doesn't look like a partition table" 14.27.47 # next time I use pastebin 14.28.42 # when you press the reset button does the player immediately reboot? 14.28.46 # <[Saint]> one problem with consumer disk tools like that is it's expecting to deal with industry standards, and not probably-proprietary embedded magic. 14.29.34 # <[Saint]> so it's very much up in the air as to whether or not it actually /was/ an invalid partition table. 14.31.05 # Just pluuged in the player (battery is empty). Windows recognizes that but can't use the device 14.31.23 # If I remember correctly, Reset-Switch DID work 14.31.42 # ok so while pressing reset try button combos 14.31.48 # Can't test it now because it doesn't work when plugged-in on usb and battery is empty 14.32.20 # ok, I'll try. But I need to charge it a few minutes first 14.33.42 # next try pressing reset really fast and see if you can glitch it and finally open player and find flash enable line with data sheet and use a resistor to pull it high or low (usually low) and try booting the player 14.33.59 # WHAT? 14.34.39 # As soon as people start recommending hammers, ignore them! :) 14.34.49 # LOL I like that! 14.34.55 # if you are lucky making the player unable to find the flash it will allow you to boot those are listed in order of desperation 14.36.39 # ...but...isn't firmware on the flash as well? I mean pulling it down makes it unreadable, doesn't it? 14.36.55 *** Alert Mode OFF 14.37.38 # tis true but it would hopefully be in memory already but not locked up yet so timing may come into play 14.38.10 # Normally on TCC devices IIRC when they don't find flash they go into USB boot mode, where tcctool comes in 14.38.33 # But then maybe tcctool already works? There's usually also a button combo for that 14.38.38 # well he was already able to load a new fw with tcc tool 14.39.09 # yes, tcctool worked fine 14.39.36 # OK, then I think there's no point playing with flash enable lines 14.39.36 # thats where I was getting at loading a file with a dump of the fs and loading it with tcc tool 14.39.44 # question is what to upload on the player with this tool? Every firmware will have the same problem 14.40.26 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 14.40.26 # * gevaerts nods 14.40.33 # That is indeed the problem 14.40.44 # I hoped for some kind of "repair-firmware" like with boot-cds for computers 14.40.50 # <[Saint]> Ha! 14.41.13 # [Saint]: don't laugh! That exists for the c200! 14.41.33 # just put in a cd, repartition/format/copy everything...start up your new system...install OS 14.41.39 # You can write that :) 14.41.40 # cool 14.42.31 # <[Saint]> You'd pretty much need to build a new firmware that sets up the partition table in the desired fashion, or exploit an existing firmware with execution and jump to external code to do so, if I'm understanding the issue right. 14.42.38 # ^ 14.42.49 # Yes, that's also my understanding 14.43.15 # And that's a lot of work if you don't have a good base to start from 14.43.16 # isn't rockboy doing exactly that with supported players? 14.43.29 # rockbox 14.43.29 # <[Saint]> Which is a shit of a job. You literally couldn't pay me to even attempt it. 14.43.47 # Well yes. If rockbox supported the U3 properly I'd say it would probably be doable 14.44.06 # <[Saint]> If it did this wouldn't be an issue. 14.44.24 # <[Saint]> We'd jump to bootloader USB and be done with it. 14.44.41 # <[Saint]> But...it doesn't, so it is. 14.44.43 # someone *did* try to support u3...are there leftover-tools from this time? 14.45.04 # * [Saint] shrugs 14.45.22 # the forums once up should show a record if they did 14.45.48 # I don't think they did much more than identifying chips 14.45.49 # <[Saint]> I have a vague memory of magic values being added to tcctool. 14.45.56 # <[Saint]> Hopefully that's not the extent of it. 14.45.59 # And that, yes, but that's the easy bit 14.46.06 # * [Saint] nods 14.46.34 # They *definitely* didn't get as far as understanding flash layout, which is kind of critical here 14.51.21 # found an old thread where they mentioned problems with the risc-processor, being unable to control 14.52.19 # https://wayback.archive.org/web/20081005175950/http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2848.15 14.53.26 # sorry, wrong link. It's on page 1 of the same thread: https://wayback.archive.org/web/20081005171553/http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2848.0 14.53.42 # "The major problem for this one is the Telechip risc cpu :'(" 14.53.45 # a.k.a. http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,2848.0.html :) 14.54.12 # Yes, but I believe the reply to that more 14.55.12 # forum was down yesterday...hence..the wayback-machine-link 14.55.30 # Although IIRC the tcc770 doesn't have a lot of RAM, which might be an issue with running full rockbox on it 14.55.34 # * gevaerts nods 14.57.47 # * gevaerts suspects the "major problem" there was "I don't know anything other than i386!" 14.58.14 # LOL 14.58.40 # ...this is disillusioning... 15.00.25 Join _mt_ [0] (~MT@c-71-199-205-58.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 15.00.51 # so I have basically two options: 1) Find another U3, 2) find a way for a repair by the manufacturer 15.01.34 # how big is the chance there were other cowon-players out there using an identical flash-layout? 15.01.44 # beside the u3 15.01.45 # * gevaerts doesn't know 15.02.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.04.03 # so...thank you for your time... 15.04.16 # Sorry we couldn't *really* help 15.04.39 # you did clarify a lot 15.05.11 Quit _mt_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.06.04 # will report back IF situation changes *somehow* 15.06.30 # keep your eye out for a u3 with broken screen, etc 15.06.56 # I will 15.06.59 # bye 15.07.00 # and do note your $300 is better spent on a newer player 15.07.26 # of course I have a newer playe ralready...but it's just bugging me... 15.07.41 # this was my beloved player for over 5 years 15.08.34 # it's lying on my desk since the brick 15.09.08 # I will never ever drop it 15.09.32 # ok, enough crying 15.09.37 # have a nice day 15.09.57 # good luck 15.10.07 Quit peter_kg (Quit: Miranda NG! 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No smoke though. 22.10.37 # <[Saint]> you usually have to get 'em pretty good for that. 22.10.51 # <[Saint]> most of the time it's weird foamy black goop. 22.11.11 # <[Saint]> errr...I mean, I've never...uhhhh...shut up. 22.11.19 # ^^ 22.35.56 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 22.47.19 # <__builtin> foolsh: I can't seem to understand what g#1564 is supposed to do 22.47.20 # 3Gerrit review #1564 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1564 : 3(WIP) Physics Fractals Demo - Benjamin Brown by Benjamin Brown 23.02.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.18.48 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 51.0.1/20170125094131]) 23.36.16 Quit cc___ (Quit: WeeChat 1.6) 23.37.33 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 23.47.47 Quit paulk-collins (Quit: Leaving) 23.52.58 Quit girafe (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.57.21 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)