--- Log for 27.02.117 Server: adams.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 23 days and 5 hours ago 00.05.22 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.24.58 Quit ender (Quit: Sometimes it pays to stay in bed on Monday, rather than spending the rest of the week debugging Monday's code. — Christopher Thompson) 00.31.34 Nick agsz is now known as zoid (~zoid@unaffiliated/taxationistheft) 00.33.38 Nick zoid is now known as agsz (~zoid@unaffiliated/taxationistheft) 00.33.47 Nick agsz is now known as zoid (~zoid@unaffiliated/taxationistheft) 00.37.47 Nick zoid is now known as agsz (~zoid@unaffiliated/taxationistheft) 00.37.53 Nick agsz is now known as zoid (~zoid@unaffiliated/taxationistheft) 00.38.13 Nick zoid is now known as agsz (~zoid@unaffiliated/taxationistheft) 00.38.19 Nick agsz is now known as zoid (~zoid@unaffiliated/taxationistheft) 00.38.50 Join Bilgus_ [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 00.40.41 Quit Bilgus (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.43.15 Quit Bilgus_ (Remote host closed the connection) 00.48.01 Nick zoid is now known as agsz` (~zoid@unaffiliated/taxationistheft) 00.48.31 Nick agsz` is now known as Guest75565 (~zoid@unaffiliated/taxationistheft) 00.48.39 Nick Guest75565 is now known as zoid (~zoid@unaffiliated/taxationistheft) 00.49.50 Quit Galois (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.08.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.22.31 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 01.23.07 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 02.13.50 Quit pixelma (Quit: No Ping reply in 120 seconds.) 02.14.59 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.17.14 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.41.13 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-67-60-20.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.42.20 Quit pixelma (Quit: No Ping reply in 120 seconds.) 02.43.42 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.46.41 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-192-112.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.47.55 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.52.24 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-189-86.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.54.02 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.58.45 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 03.02.41 Quit Moarc (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.06.49 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 03.08.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.10.08 Quit amiconn (Quit: No Ping reply in 64 seconds.) 03.11.29 Join amiconn [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.14.45 Quit MrZeus1 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.20.09 # Is there a way to make the scroll wheel on the iPod Video automatically start scrolling the playlist? 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But to answer your implication, the ipod touch has *always* been an iphone wifi 12.40.52 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B296D4A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.42.34 Quit amiconn (Quit: No Ping reply in 64 seconds.) 12.45.22 Join amiconn [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.45.23 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.08.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.27.48 Join paulk-blaze [0] (~paulk@147.210.204.186) 13.30.48 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.41.10 Quit paulk-blaze (Quit: Leaving) 14.21.27 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.22.11 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 14.27.47 Join paulk-blaze [0] (~paulk@147.210.204.186) 15.08.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.22.02 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.28.35 Join pixelma_ [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 15.29.15 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@nzf.turmel.info) 15.29.15 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 15.29.15 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 15.29.42 Quit pixelma (Ping timeout: 259 seconds) 15.48.53 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~root@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 15.52.06 Quit _mt_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.01.34 Quit foolsh (Remote host closed the connection) 16.02.50 Join foolsh [0] (~starchase@162-204-199-234.lightspeed.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) 16.07.48 Join furrywolf [0] (~randyg@208.54.5.235) 16.14.47 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 16.15.46 Join fs-bluebot_ [0] (~fs-bluebo@xd9bafbea.dyn.telefonica.de) 16.17.38 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.19.38 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.21.55 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 16.37.35 Join neutric [0] (~ah@unaffiliated/neutric) 16.41.19 Join Bilgus_ [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 16.42.29 Quit foolsh (Remote host closed the connection) 16.43.37 Join foolsh [0] (~starchase@162-204-199-234.lightspeed.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) 16.44.09 # dongs, :P http://i.imgur.com/chYtHKq.jpg 16.44.17 Quit Bilgus (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.54.27 Quit foolsh (Remote host closed the connection) 16.55.33 Join foolsh [0] (~starchase@162-204-199-234.lightspeed.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) 16.58.35 Quit pixelma_ (Quit: No Ping reply in 120 seconds.) 17.00.44 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 17.00.52 Quit foolsh (Remote host closed the connection) 17.02.00 Join foolsh [0] (~starchase@162-204-199-234.lightspeed.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) 17.08.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.48.59 Join _mt_ [0] (~MT@129.59.122.17) 17.50.02 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 18.02.41 Quit elensil (Remote host closed the connection) 18.11.47 Quit paulk-blaze (Quit: Leaving) 18.26.01 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.34.15 Join naleo [0] (~naleo@unaffiliated/naleo) 18.41.35 Quit pixelma (Quit: No Ping reply in 120 seconds.) 18.42.07 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:9884:2d30:d375:db66) 18.43.24 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 18.47.36 Quit _mt_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18.57.43 # wodz: lebellium (logs): I wrote an ALSA monitor and run the OF to see which ALSA controls it was changing, here is the result: 18.57.43 # https://gist.github.com/pamaury/8f13ce956fba1ac0f6ae753327e52330 18.57.59 # as one can see, it does not touch acoustic or cue/rev mode 18.58.28 # it uses the expected Src=Music, Mute=Off, Power=On setting 18.58.45 # so it must somehow change the volume table by another mean 19.04.01 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B296D4A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.08.44 Join MrZeus1 [0] (~MrZeus@2a02:c7f:7048:e800:5482:5781:5ef5:93ca) 19.08.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.15.08 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.27.15 Quit pixelma (Quit: No Ping reply in 120 seconds.) 19.29.04 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.45.03 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B296D4A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.51.38 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-177-91.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.55.26 # pamaury: but it's not just about volume. It must also changes something else to prevent clipping 19.59.06 # I know but I just don't know what... Clearly it's not an ALSA control 19.59.34 # and as far as I can tell, the private ioctl to the sound driver only *get* info from driver, but don't change anything 20.06.37 Join paulk-collins [0] (~paulk@gagarine.paulk.fr) 20.07.28 Quit MrZeus1 (Remote host closed the connection) 20.09.05 Join MrZeus1 [0] (~MrZeus@2a02:c7f:7048:e800:5482:5781:5ef5:93ca) 20.18.23 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@rockbox/developer/thomasjfox) 20.48.44 Quit michaelni (Quit: Leaving) 20.49.15 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 20.49.21 Quit Bilgus_ (Remote host closed the connection) 20.51.58 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 20.56.05 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 21.09.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.12.59 # lebellium: your noice cancelling headphones are the MDR-NWNC200 ? 21.14.21 # nope, MDR-NC31E 21.15.06 # I don't know the NWNC200 but it looks like it is/was sold only in Japan 21.20.45 # did you find this reference in Sony's code? 21.25.15 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.26.42 # yes the noise cancelling driver has several headphones "types" 21.26.51 # I don't really know what they are and what they change 21.27.46 # I suspect it chanes the dsp code run on the codec to do NC 21.29.52 # NW-A20 has NC31, NC33 and NW750N profiles 21.30.05 # those change depending on the destination code 21.30.35 # and it definitely changes the sound 21.31.00 # they are supposed to be optimized for the frequency response of the earphones I guess 21.31.00 # is that automatic or you have to change it in the menus ? 21.33.07 # in the menu you choose your earphone model (A20 CEW2 you only have "MDR-NW750" or "Other headphones"). For NW750 you can then set on/off for "Clear Phase" ("Optimize the sound output for the selected headphones") 21.34.34 # you also have the NC environment ("Full-auto AINC, Bus/train, Airplane/ Office) and you can select the NC level (from -15 to 15 with default setting 0 ) 21.35.31 # on the E580 you can't choose a specific earphone, there is no "Clear Phase" and no "Full-auto AINC" 21.36.22 Quit utrack (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.50.34 Join utrack [0] (~utrack@21422.s.t4vps.eu) 21.57.53 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B296D4A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.01.45 # lebellium: Have you managed to use the NC31 with the NW-A20, i.e. with ok sound? 22.02.12 # johnb2: you need Japan destination code to get the NC31 profile on A20 22.02.56 # Does this dest code still have English menues? 22.03.28 # no, only NWZ have English menus in Japan region code 22.03.54 # so A10 has English UI 22.03.57 # but not A20 22.04.22 # Well, then that's a deal breaker for me, unfortunately. 22.05.17 # but NC31 are not very good 22.05.24 # I prefer using good IEM without nC 22.05.26 # NC* 22.05.45 # NC is just a nice gadget I used once 22.05.55 # I agree, but want to try and use them on a flight next week. 22.06.07 # So I have to use the E585 22.06.13 # the E580 is made for them 22.07.05 # ok. Thanks. 22.08.04 # A20 is originally shipped with NW750 outside Japan 22.08.18 # but I bought it second-handed without them 22.08.29 # same here. 22.13.02 # you bought the NC31 separately? 22.13.19 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 22.16.36 Quit madk (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3 - http://znc.in) 22.17.00 Join madk [0] (~noneofyou@107.170.140.154) 22.20.40 Nick Guest24161 is now known as alexbobp (~alex@testificate.xen.prgmr.com) 22.23.22 Quit madk (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3 - http://znc.in) 22.23.51 Join madk [0] (~noneofyou@107.170.140.154) 22.25.41 Quit madk (Client Quit) 22.25.42 # I am starting to suspect that the "noise cancellin" driver is doing more than just noise cancelling 22.25.59 Join madk [0] (~noneofyou@2604:a880:0:1010::93d:2001) 22.26.02 # it also adds noise 22.26.04 # :D 22.27.01 Quit madk (Client Quit) 22.29.02 Join madk [0] (~noneofyou@2604:a880:0:1010::93d:2001) 22.35.05 # I am seriously running out of ideas... 22.35.49 # just to be sure I added code to disable noise cancelling but it was disabled already 22.37.42 Join girafe [0] (~girafe@LFbn-1-11729-221.w2-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.40.47 Quit paulk-collins (Quit: Leaving) 22.42.12 Join ComputingComet [0] (~Mutter@184-90-39-100.res.bhn.net) 22.42.26 # Hello all 22.43.00 Quit ComputingComet (Client Quit) 22.46.13 # he didn't stay long... 22.52.52 Join _mt_ [0] (~MT@129.59.122.17) 22.55.02 Quit thomasjfox (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 23.09.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.09.46 Quit CommunistWitchDr (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.10.05 Join bohwaz [0] (~bohwaz@nacarat.kd2.org) 23.14.54 Quit _mt_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.27.03 Quit MrZeus1 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.35.24 Join MrZeus1 [0] (~MrZeus@2a02:c7f:7048:e800:38ea:1311:21fe:de94) 23.38.33 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 23.39.41 Nick __builtin is now known as builtin (~xray@rockbox/developer/builtin) 23.40.18 Nick builtin is now known as __builtin (~xray@rockbox/developer/builtin) 23.48.17 Join MrZeus2 [0] (~MrZeus@2a02:c7f:7048:e800:5482:5781:5ef5:93ca) 23.51.48 Quit MrZeus1 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.56.09 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 23.56.29 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection)