--- Log for 18.04.117 Server: rajaniemi.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 6 hours ago 00.00.08 Quit ender (Quit: Live your Life in such a way that the Westboro Baptist Church will want to picket your funeral.) 00.24.51 Join WilliamC [0] (~WilliamC@cpe-2606-A000-140E-4017-28FE-B43-BA1E-29D5.dyn6.twc.com) 00.43.20 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 01.13.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.20.47 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 02.33.40 Join Aldem [0] (~Aldem@unaffiliated/aldem) 02.45.22 Quit Aldem (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.46.30 Join Aldem [0] (~Aldem@unaffiliated/aldem) 03.13.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.31.05 Quit MrZeus (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.50.13 Quit advcomp2019_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.51.07 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@65-131-148-219.sxct.qwest.net) 03.51.07 Quit advcomp2019 (Changing host) 03.51.07 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 04.10.39 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@65-131-179-48.sxct.qwest.net) 04.10.56 Quit advcomp2019_ (Changing host) 04.10.56 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 04.11.39 Quit advcomp2019 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.26.22 Quit atsampson (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.26.35 Join atsampson [0] (~ats@cartman.offog.org) 04.38.02 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 04.39.16 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 05.13.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.05.48 Quit dan- (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.18.14 # <[Saint]> jhMikeS: since you're around - did you see my question the other day? 06.19.23 # <[Saint]> How hard would it be to "let the legs out" on the supported sample rates and bit depth so we're not effectively capping at 16/44.1|48 06.19.26 # <[Saint]> +? 06.20.13 Quit Saratoga_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.20.24 # <[Saint]> I've had a look around codecs and the playback engine, and to be honest the whole place baffles the shit out of me and I find it scary, lol. 06.22.56 # <[Saint]> I got my hands on a bunch of pretty nice external DACs for Raspberry Pis (and the clone|"Rpi-compatible" boards which are TI PCM5122 based. 06.24.03 # <[Saint]> Which is a pretty nice Burr Brown DAC with pretty silly bit depth and samplerate, well, not /entirely/ ridiculous. 06.24.29 # <[Saint]> 32/384 or so, if I recall correctly. 06.24.43 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.25.20 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.44.18 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.53.32 Join dan- [0] (~d@101.165.168.135) 06.53.32 Quit dan- (Changing host) 06.53.32 Join dan- [0] (~d@freenode/corporate-sponsor/privateinternetaccess.com/doaks) 06.53.37 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.13.44 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.13.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.16.39 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.19.29 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 07.21.32 Join smoke_fumus [0] (~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90) 07.28.49 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.29.04 Quit paulk-collins (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 07.55.01 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 08.22.42 Join ender [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.23.39 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.24.48 Join paulk-collins [0] (~paulk@gagarine.paulk.fr) 08.35.23 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 08.36.12 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 09.01.00 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~root@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 09.10.08 Join sroczi [0] (~sroczi@bhu52.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 09.13.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.15.42 Join petur [0] (~petur@dD5E0153A.access.telenet.be) 09.15.42 Quit petur (Changing host) 09.15.42 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.27.38 # hi 09.38.55 # Is someone here? 09.42.53 # aaaaaa 09.43.54 Join elensil [0] (~edhelas@2001:1c02:1903:d800:39d0:439d:488:ff31) 09.44.36 # haaallo 09.53.26 # nope, all dead 09.53.59 # did you read the topic? 10.01.52 Quit elensil (Quit: Leaving.) 10.02.17 Join elensil [0] (~edhelas@2001:1c02:1903:d800:39d0:439d:488:ff31) 10.16.16 Join MrZeus [0] (~MrZeus@81.144.218.162) 10.30.52 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 10.33.50 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.40.43 Join petur [0] (~petur@dD5E0153A.access.telenet.be) 10.40.56 Quit petur (Changing host) 10.40.56 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.47.09 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.47.19 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.49.11 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 10.54.04 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:dd29:6f02:1465:c3c) 11.00.35 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@xd9baf3ad.dyn.telefonica.de) 11.07.11 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.07.25 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B2ADB03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.10.17 Quit uwe_ (Remote host closed the connection) 11.12.36 Join uwe_ [0] (~uwe_@dslb-088-067-189-066.088.067.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 11.13.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.47.29 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.48.35 Quit WilliamC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 11.59.45 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.11.08 # Lovely, dev team from agptek responded they will not share kernel sources. Considering that all drivers are compiled into the kernel this is obvious GPL violation. 12.11.29 # you should ask hiby 12.11.38 # I'd say that means we start being serious about off-topic stuff on the foryms 12.11.39 # *u 12.11.56 # gevaerts: what you mean? 12.12.36 # There are a few threads that are basically agptek support 12.13.16 # lol which ones? 12.13.19 # They've been annoying me for a while, but I've tolerated them because I didn't want to appear hostile to a potentially rockbox-friendly manufacturer 12.13.52 # also what qualifies as "rockbox-friendly" 12.14.20 # That's hard to say, which is why I added "potentially" :) 12.15.03 # in that case all manufs with jz hardware is "friendly" 12.15.22 # hell, anything that isn't atj is 12.15.45 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51071.0.html is partly on topic, and partly not 12.16.00 # nuke it 12.16.43 # wodz: I'd say the best thing to do is to forward that response to something like the sflc 12.16.57 # My motivation to run rb on rocker lowered considerably with such attitude. 12.17.08 # * gevaerts nods 12.17.49 # Maybe a short post to the relevant forum threads quoting the relevant lines saying you're not interested in continuing the port? 12.17.54 # gevaerts: This was reposnse from Hunterleo. Before forwarding anyware anything I'd need to write official request first. 12.18.25 # They're using rockbox as a marketing tool. There's no reason to help them with that unless they play by the rules 12.18.38 # fair point 12.19.21 # I think posting on head-fi would have bigger impact 12.19.28 # It's up to you of course. You're the one doing the work, so you're the one who decides if you *want* to :) 12.20.32 # Sure. 12.21.12 # i still say ask hiby 12.21.57 # hiby provides player *app* not the sw/hw platform 12.22.08 # I could imagine they might not be happy with a head-fi post saying "Rockbox team stops agptek port due to license violations" 12.22.30 # btw hiby player is shitty written - it segfaults on proper kill :-) 12.23.08 # Does it stop cleanly on kill -SIGSEGV? :) 12.23.19 # you could also ask benjie 12.23.42 # also i thought those companies provide full sw solutions to clients 12.24.27 # (like with older jz players) 12.25.30 # duo8: Ingenic provides sources for x1000 BUT this does not match kernel running on agptek. Not only some drivers are missing but others seems to be tweaked 12.26.17 # anyone want to ask benjie then? 12.26.55 # duo8: Technically speaking you need to have binary version to ask for source. I don't as I have only agptek. 12.27.38 # download their firmware lol 12.30.40 # duo8: This grey area IMO. 12.30.47 # *this is* 12.31.09 # they went below gray so it's only fair 12.36.54 Join Lwrless [0] (~Lwrless@218.56.92.81) 12.42.12 Quit Lwrless (Remote host closed the connection) 12.42.39 # duo8: Below gray went Agptek so far 12.42.46 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 12.42.50 # unless they change their mind 12.42.50 Join Lwrless [0] (~Lwrless@218.201.101.8) 12.44.55 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 12.50.36 # btw, do you need kernel sources? you're doing an app port right? 12.51.13 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 12.51.41 # duo8: I'd like to compare my understanding of sysfs interface in a few places. It is not *strictly* needed but would help 12.53.45 Quit dys (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.00.02 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 13.14.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.24.02 Join JanC_ [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 13.25.19 Quit JanC (Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) 13.25.19 Nick JanC_ is now known as JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 14.03.21 # wodz: did you make progress on agptek? 14.03.36 # I split the alsa stuff on gerrit by the way 14.03.45 # does someone know if the gerrit situation improved? 14.04.51 # no, it crashes somewhere in codec. I didn't have time to gdb this properly. It looks like ci ptr being corrupted somehow (either not initialized properly or corrupted afterwards). 14.04.57 Part Aldem ("Ciao") 14.05.49 # it's quite strange: in gerrit the committers group lists me, but in the list of groups to which I belong, committers is not listed... 14.05.56 # pamaury: I saw your split of alsa ctrl. I need to sort out codec issue first. Anyway with current response from agptek my motivation lowered considerably anyway. 14.06.13 # yeah it's really annoying that would not provide the kernel 14.07.16 # I'll wait for Hunterleo final response as he declares to discuss with sw team boss (hey what to discuss there?) 14.07.48 # it would help if chinese companies did not systematically violate the GPL 14.27.02 # pamaury: as far as I can see everyone now has two gerrit accounts, one in the right groups but not accessible, and one without groups that you can get at 14.27.29 # I don't know if zagor knows, but I have a meeting now... 14.35.44 # I sent an email to zagor but he did not answer me yet. I wonder if we really have two accounts or if some database misses some links 14.35.58 # (like a failed update/migration) 14.37.45 Quit johnb2 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 14.40.43 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 14.41.40 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B2ADB03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.46.54 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 14.47.21 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 14.53.18 Quit hiro (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.06.07 # pamaury, lebellium: I am proposing a change to the keymap of the Sony players: If it has volume keys, use the up and down key for Pitsch Screen and Playlist View while in WPS. 15.06.27 # Please see my diff at https://pastebin.com/20UPM4Ve 15.07.04 # Does this make sense? 15.08.14 # *pitch 15.14.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.22.06 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 15.28.48 Quit Lwrless (Remote host closed the connection) 15.29.20 Join Lwrless [0] (~Lwrless@218.56.92.81) 15.32.15 Quit [Saint] (Disconnected by services) 15.32.20 Join [Saint] [0] (~sinner@rockbox/staff/saint) 15.40.14 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.242.174.75) 16.07.04 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:5d:e0b1:623a:9795) 16.21.22 # johnb2: that makes sense to me. I suggest you ask lebellium as well 16.22.12 # I wait for him to read the logs ... 16.33.28 # johnb2: can you submit a patch on gerrit? 16.35.15 Join Lwrless_ [0] (~Lwrless@218.201.101.4) 16.35.30 Quit Lwrless_ (Client Quit) 16.36.51 # I guess I need some guidance there. What I did was this: 16.36.53 # git fetch http://gerrit.rockbox.org/rockbox refs/changes/81/1481/34 && git checkout FETCH_HEAD 16.37.09 # can I simply commit the change file? 16.37.22 # *changed file 16.38.09 # Or what else do I have to do? 16.38.48 Quit Lwrless (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 16.41.00 # commits are stored locally; you need to push for it to be submitted to gerrit 16.42.16 # It seems I can also edit through the web interface? 16.42.43 # however I'm not sure how it works when you're not the original submitter 16.56.59 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 16.58.19 # Trying to publish the change thru the web GUI I get: author email address does not match your user account. 16.59.35 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.10.46 # johnb2: is the email address your used when you commit (on your computer) the same as your gerrit one? 17.14.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.14.09 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.17.18 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5DC886AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.17.54 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 17.22.26 # The full message is: 17.22.28 # ERROR: In commit 1ac0b5f80828c759cfcb38353717682881993ccf ERROR: author email address amaury.pouly@gmail.com ERROR: does not match your user account. 17.22.44 # Gerrit complains that I am not you. 17.24.00 # johnb2: that's because you cannot modify *my* commit 17.24.24 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 17.24.28 # You would need to create a new commit, I am not sure if the web interface can do that 17.24.47 # Ok, then I will try from the VM. 17.24.48 # actually you can base the commit on master, since my patch almost does not not modify the nwz keymap 17.42.56 Quit zoktar (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.45.15 Join zoktar [0] (~zoktar@78-72-39-137-no186.tbcn.telia.com) 17.45.15 Quit zoktar (Changing host) 17.45.15 Join zoktar [0] (~zoktar@unaffiliated/zoktar) 17.50.17 Join chatter29 [0] (601f4303@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.31.67.3) 17.50.31 # hey guys 17.50.33 # allah is doing 17.50.38 # sun is not doing allah is doing 17.50.40 # to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger 17.50.42 Part chatter29 17.52.37 # http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1591/ 17.53.31 # Proudly made my first code contribution :-) 17.54.02 Quit petur (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 18.09.52 Quit elensil (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18.11.48 Join dys [0] (~dys@ip-109-40-1-221.web.vodafone.de) 18.12.21 Quit dys (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.23.21 Join dys [0] (~dys@ip-109-40-1-221.web.vodafone.de) 18.28.18 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.36.00 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5DC886AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.48.00 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.10.19 Quit Moarc (Quit: i znowu NADMUCHAŁ BALONA) 19.14.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.16.43 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 19.20.28 Quit Moarc (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.20.38 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 19.22.26 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.24.24 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.37.13 Join MrZeus1 [0] (~MrZeus@2a02:c7f:7066:fb00:2522:6606:9c13:fa48) 19.51.21 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-177-91.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 20.16.32 Join bp0 [0] (~bp@unaffiliated/bp0) 20.28.18 # johnb2, pamaury : just tried on my device, I'm OK with the new keymapping for up/down keys :) 20.34.19 # lebellium: cool 20.35.07 # I will look into the volume problem tonight 20.35.14 # and maybe change the way the volume is handled 20.37.58 # ok, if you update your patch, can you also add volume in SBS as well? 20.49.05 # not sure what you mean 20.50.56 # #define HAVE_VOLUME_IN_LIST 20.51.31 # it's already there 20.51.56 # oh 20.52.01 # my bad 20.52.44 # I must have missed an update 21.01.19 # regarding AGPTek and the Rocker, it's still unclear to me what AGPTek actually do internally and what is outsourced. If AGPTek only paid for external development (he said they "hired the devs from Fiio" but I think it's not accurate), I fear hunterleo has no influence on them and is not the right person to ask 21.04.10 # He probably wanted to use Rockbox as a selling argument but didn't ask his colleagues or contractors 21.08.04 # they are still violating the GPL in any case 21.09.32 # who "they"? If the firmware is not developed by AGPTek? 21.09.43 # whoever developed the kernel 21.09.52 # and thus AGPTek 21.11.08 # A guy on head-fi is in touch with Benjie and got for example their own firmware (1.04 beta). Maybe asking Benjie instead of AGPTek could work 21.14.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.18.42 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5DC886AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.25.42 Part robertd1 21.31.20 Join Saratoga_ [0] (123e157d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.21.125) 21.31.48 # If they're distributing the device they're supposed to comply with the license 21.32.05 # But Chinese companies rarely seen to know or care 21.32.40 # And it sounds like this company just repackages someone else's firmware so they may have no idea what's in it 21.32.53 # *seem 21.35.29 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 21.44.21 Quit johnb2 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 22.15.07 Quit Saratoga_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.19.45 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.29.59 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 52.0.2/20170323105023]) 22.58.36 Join WilliamC [0] (~WilliamC@cpe-2606-A000-140E-4017-28FE-B43-BA1E-29D5.dyn6.twc.com) 23.14.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.33.05 Quit ender (Quit: I just read a book about Stockholm Syndrome. It was pretty bad at first, but by the end I kinda liked it.) 23.52.55 # ah damn lebellium is gone