--- Log for 06.05.117 Server: rajaniemi.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 22 days and 7 hours ago 00.15.29 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 00.31.51 # JohnB2 whats the issue with selective backlight in German? 00.36.29 # Honestly IDC what it is called but is a really long phrase going to actually get read? 00.38.02 Join Isengrim_ [0] (~Isengrim_@98.29.229.68) 00.38.09 # depends on the screen I guess. 00.39.23 # how about selective backlight exemptions or is the issue with 'SELECTIVE'? 00.40.54 # I was looking for a more self explanatory term. "backlight exemptions" sure works better for me than "selective backlight" 00.48.30 # sounds good to me 00.51.49 Quit MrZeus2 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.52.15 Join MrZeus2 [0] (~MrZeus@2a02:c7f:7066:fb00:1819:7799:e69f:7df) 00.55.14 # <__builtin> alright, ID allocations have been sent: https://usb-ids.gowdy.us/read/UD/1d50 01.02.46 Quit ender` (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.04.12 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.09.48 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 01.22.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.56.22 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@221.221.13.17) 02.00.26 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.06.47 Part robertd1 02.17.23 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.22.24 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 02.40.46 Quit MrZeus2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.50.33 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@221.221.13.17) 02.54.46 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.00.32 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 03.11.00 Quit Isengrim_ (Quit: Ouch!) 03.22.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.41.34 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 03.47.46 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 04.16.43 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.17.49 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 04.39.00 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@221.221.13.17) 04.43.33 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.47.47 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@d24-57-2-123.home.cgocable.net) 04.50.27 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.57.01 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 05.10.43 # I can't submit http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1592/ , I guess because I don't have commit access in Gerrit anymore. 05.22.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.28.27 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.40.12 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 06.05.11 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 06.26.54 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 06.29.12 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@68.51.123.75) 06.32.07 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 06.55.13 Quit [7] (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.55.44 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 07.12.36 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.13.37 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 07.13.52 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 07.19.17 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-192-63.mcn.bellsouth.net) 07.22.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.22.55 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.46.41 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: Leaving.) 07.59.05 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 07.59.58 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 08.20.38 Quit michaelni (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.37.13 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 09.00.28 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 09.22.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.31.25 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-196-144.mcn.bellsouth.net) 09.34.34 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.34.39 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B2AD880.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.37.33 # Bilgus: ZincAlloy: sounds good to me, too. I can create a patch for the manual and lang files on gerrit, if you want me to ... 09.42.06 Join lorenzo92_1 [0] (~lorenzo@host120-107-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.42.21 Quit johnb2 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 10.02.55 Join johnb3 [0] (~johnb2@p5B2AD880.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.03.31 Nick johnb3 is now known as johnb2 (~johnb2@p5B2AD880.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.11.04 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 10.15.26 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.21.38 Quit lorenzo92_1 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.35.42 # I have tried to install phabricator on my server and it was easy enough. I'm not finished and there are a few quirks that the doc doesn't say though... 10.37.18 Join MrZeus2 [0] (~MrZeus@2a02:c7f:7066:fb00:c456:ea43:eca0:375c) 10.40.56 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.45.50 Join lorenzo92_1 [0] (~lorenzo@host120-107-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 10.55.40 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@61.148.242.110) 10.57.21 # pamaury: ypz5 does not build any longer: imx233_lradc_setup_channel is missing. I guess you know better how to fix than me looking for the new equivalent :-) 10.57.48 # (I will test and provide a patch) 10.58.18 Join PurlingNayuki1 [0] (~Thunderbi@106.121.10.255) 10.59.00 Quit MrZeus2 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.00.09 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.00.09 Nick PurlingNayuki1 is now known as PurlingNayuki (~Thunderbi@106.121.10.255) 11.06.04 # do I have to update the bootloader via rbutil from 3.13 to 3.14? 11.06.09 # (sansa clip+) 11.06.52 # No, you don't HAVE to update the bootloader. 11.07.03 # Just install the firmware. 11.07.10 # ok. just saw some initialization changes in it and wasn't sure 11.09.11 # then I'll start bisecting everything from 3.13 to 3.14 to find the reason why my clip+ doesn't like the sd card anymore with 3.14… 11.11.57 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.12.35 Join parchd [0] (~parchd@unaffiliated/parchd) 11.14.14 Join MrZeus [0] (~MrZeus@2a02:c7f:7066:fb00:259e:42b1:2fee:623d) 11.22.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.38.25 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B2AD880.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.43.51 # both the mips and arm-app toolchains fail to build on my ubuntu 16.04 (gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.3)) 11.44.49 # arm-app: https://pastebin.com/raw/mmE8QrkK 11.46.03 # uhm… is the virtualbox image still recommended? it's from 2012… :O 11.47.21 Quit lorenzo92_1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.47.46 # Saratoga recently created this VM image: http://web.mit.edu/mgg6/www/Ubuntu%2016.10%20Yakkety%20(64bit).7z 11.48.24 # password rockbox 11.48.43 # ok, then I'll drink another mit-coffee while I wait for the download to finish 11.48.48 # 44 min, yay 11.49.46 # might be faster to compile gcc… 12.17.36 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12.20.35 # is there a way to test my build client? 12.28.05 Quit Soap_ (Quit: Soap_) 12.28.24 Join Soap [0] (~Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 12.38.45 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.242.174.75) 12.39.04 Join lorenzo92_1 [0] (~lorenzo@host120-107-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 12.40.47 Quit robertd1 (Client Quit) 12.57.24 # finally. the vm is slow somehow, especially compared to my other VMs. let's start: "Bisecting: 995 revisions left to test after this". but I have to go in half an hour :/ 13.00.47 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~root@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 13.00.50 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.242.174.75) 13.00.51 Join Isengrim_ [0] (~Isengrim_@98.29.229.68) 13.03.14 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B2AD880.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.06.33 # SammysHP: which build have you been running before updating? 13.06.45 # johnb2: 3.13 13.07.21 # lorenzo92_1: ok, I'll fix it tonight or tomorrow 13.08.18 # johnb2: saratoga already sent me two builds for testing. the first one didn't fix it (https://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/13116), with the second one the sd card wasn't detected at all 13.11.31 # I have no clue. Have you ever completely removed the .rockbox directory, not just resetting. 13.11.35 # ? 13.16.06 # johnb2: sure 13.16.27 # I replaced it with the builds from saratoga 13.16.38 # (and with 3.14) 13.19.47 # pamaury: oh, I now see the "new" button handling API, very nice indeed 13.22.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.24.54 Quit lorenzo92_1 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 13.44.39 Quit parchd (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.12.11 Join lorenzo92_1 [0] (~lorenzo@host120-107-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.22.59 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@2001:470:1f09:348::affe:24) 14.37.32 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.47.18 Join parchd [0] (~parchd@unaffiliated/parchd) 14.47.42 Quit swilde (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.52.32 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.53.08 Quit lorenzo92_1 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.53.54 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~textual@2a02:a454:38ea:1:7048:e294:95a3:5471) 14.54.10 Join lorenzo92_1 [0] (~lorenzo@host214-29-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 15.04.41 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:d4e9:51e5:8d2f:456f) 15.08.27 # lorenzo92_1: new button API? 15.10.54 # oh you mean button-imx233.c, it's been there for a while 15.14.28 # I think so, but it has also been a while that i did not compile the target :-) 15.14.48 # anyway, buttons are now working fine, so if you have time, please review the change 15.15.04 # pamaury: g#1604 15.15.06 # 3Gerrit review #1604 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1604 : 3Samsung YP-Z5: keypad adaption to the new button API by Lorenzo Miori 15.20.38 # by the way, I have recomputed voltages and they match the readings 15.22.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.34.21 Quit parchd (Quit: reboot) 15.36.44 Nick sth is now known as duo8 (~ZNC-SRV-H@116.111.121.211) 15.43.19 Join cc___ [0] (~ac@AMarseille-653-1-184-12.w92-158.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.55.41 Quit lorenzo92_1 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 16.21.01 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@2001:470:1f09:348::affe:24) 16.41.49 # <__builtin> user890104: having a build client at the moment is essentially useless 16.42.27 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 16.45.11 Join alexander_ekimov [0] (b282232f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.130.35.47) 16.52.28 # I joined just to say "thanks" authors of https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick It works and the advice helped to unbrick sansa clip+. 16.55.52 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B2AD880.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.59.06 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 17.01.04 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 17.06.22 # __builtin: why? 17.07.18 # <__builtin> gerrit no longer triggers any builds, so the entire cluster just sits idle all the time 17.07.38 # ah 17.08.06 # can we use the github mirror's webhook to trigger that? 17.12.27 # <__builtin> some people have been talking about migrating away from gerrit entirely 17.12.41 # <__builtin> recently phabricator has been considered, see the logs for more 17.16.26 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.22.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.31.27 Quit alexander_ekimov (Quit: Page closed) 17.32.45 # johnb2: sure.. 17.34.17 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@d24-57-2-123.home.cgocable.net) 17.42.59 Join lorenzo92_1 [0] (~lorenzo@host214-29-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 17.44.06 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.48.12 Quit lorenzo92_1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.48.19 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 17.49.54 Join lorenzo92_1 [0] (~lorenzo@host214-29-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 17.53.18 Quit robertd1 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.56.12 Quit lorenzo92_1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.58.05 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B2AD880.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.04.56 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.08.52 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: Leaving.) 18.14.43 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 18.16.59 Join alexweis_ [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 18.35.12 Quit swilde (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.44.45 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B2AD880.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.51.05 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.53.30 Quit Isengrim_ (Quit: Ouch!) 18.54.59 Quit PimpiN8 (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) 19.02.57 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-245.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.10.32 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.11.02 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 19.13.52 Nick alexweis_ is now known as alexweissman (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 19.14.17 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@d24-57-2-123.home.cgocable.net) 19.14.40 # <__builtin> hi dreamlayers 19.15.12 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.15.15 # <__builtin> there have been some issues associated with the recent gerrit upgrade, it appears the migration was unsuccessful 19.16.19 # hi __builtin. Yeah, I saw the dev mailing list posts about that. So, should I commit the change separately, independently of Gerrit? 19.22.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.42.04 Join JanC_ [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 19.43.21 Nick JanC is now known as Guest57282 (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 19.43.21 Nick JanC_ is now known as JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 19.44.46 Quit Guest57282 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 20.02.42 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.242.174.75) 20.23.06 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: Leaving.) 21.22.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.31.21 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~root@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 21.42.41 # It looks like the R0 is not the only target affected by the keymapping issue 21.42.44 # the Clip+ too http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51764.0.html 21.44.56 # I think it should be possible to power off a device when buttons are locked 21.45.06 # as it used to be 21.48.26 Join Riku [0] (~riku@hatsune.thisis.moe) 21.50.32 # Does anyone have any tips for mazimizing battery life on an iPod Classic? I've got a 550 mAh battery installed and I'm making about 15 hours. I need to be making at least 18 hours and the battery meter thinks I should be getting 36 hours. 21.52.18 # The latest Rockbox version seems to have boosted me from the 8-9 hours I was getting on earlier versions 21.56.00 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5B2AD880.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.06.26 # lebellium: I lock buttons to prevent exactly that 22.06.54 # the power button on the clip+ is easy to press if you have it clipped to your pocket and sit down 22.11.06 # for how long have you been doing that? That used to be different and I don't remember a discussion here on that behavior change 22.12.27 # lebellium: that's the problem – I never did it, probably because it wasn't possible. now I've read that it changed to what I'd like 22.14.20 # I just checked on my 2 Clip+. One has a 2016 build with no problem, and the other one has a February 2017 build with already this behavior change 22.15.36 # If it was intentionally changed without proper discussion before I see that as a problem 22.16.33 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.18.21 # that has probably something to do with the 'new' advanced key lock feature 22.19.01 # * gevaerts still doesn't understand a lock screen that doesn't actually lock 22.20.09 # lebellium: just checked with 3.13, power off is possible while locked 22.20.15 # IMHO that's a bug 22.20.42 # SammysHP: testing anything with 3.13 is pointless, as I just said above, with a 2016 build it's possible 22.20.44 # so if this has changed I'd call it an unintentional fix 22.21.12 # SammysHP: good luck! 22.21.13 # lebellium: I'm just comparing releases as that makes most sense for regressions 22.21.17 # gevaerts: that didn't bother anyone for years. It used the standard behavior for power off 22.21.24 # to be* 22.21.51 # The world seems to think that a lock screen should lock *everything*, except of course volume, and track change can be handy, and why can't I access the quickscreen, and... 22.23.01 # gevaerts: and advanced key lock is the solution, correct? 22.23.07 # I don't know 22.23.21 # I stopped understanding what was going on fairly soon 22.24.12 # advanced key lock is supposed to make the thing more customizable, not to prevent things that were possible earlier 22.24.48 # lebellium: why not? just add an option to allow power-off during lock 22.24.58 # I'm used to targets where shutdown *was* blocked all along 22.28.01 # this behavior breaks everything on YP-R0 where there is a single button for stop, power off and lock 22.46.07 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-183-95.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.47.26 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.05.06 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 23.13.52 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@d24-57-2-123.home.cgocable.net) 23.22.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.26.55 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 23.27.15 # <__builtin> dreamlayers: yes, it works if you do it that way