--- Log for 05.07.117 Server: karatkievich.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 5 days ago 00.07.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.29.24 Quit ender` (Quit: Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night.") 00.35.00 Quit sulfasal (Quit: leaving) 00.37.07 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.49.04 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 00.51.04 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.11.40 Join __builtin [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-35-76.triad.res.rr.com) 01.11.40 Quit __builtin (Changing host) 01.11.40 Join __builtin [0] (~franklin@rockbox/developer/builtin) 01.20.33 Quit smoke_fumus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.53.14 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.07.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.08.20 Quit cc___ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.13.17 Quit MrZeus1 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.17.07 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.27.07 Quit robertd1 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.31.16 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@200.109.42.11) 02.48.11 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 03.24.00 Join Senji_ [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 03.26.23 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.07.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.23.23 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-248-153.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 04.24.27 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.25.30 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.10.21 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 273 seconds) 05.12.29 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 05.20.35 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 05.31.14 Quit __builtin (Remote host closed the connection) 05.37.54 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 05.47.35 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.07.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.17.37 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06.17.55 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 06.18.57 Quit robertd1 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.19.03 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 06.19.27 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.23.13 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@200.109.42.11) 06.24.47 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 06.25.17 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 06.27.47 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 06.43.46 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 06.44.46 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 06.46.56 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 06.55.32 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFF28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 06.56.52 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 06.58.37 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 07.00.08 Quit Senji_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.17.23 Quit johnb4 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 07.27.16 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 07.28.03 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 07.45.46 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 07.47.18 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 07.47.52 Quit amiconn (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 07.47.52 Quit pixelma (Quit: .) 07.48.46 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 07.52.44 Join pixelma [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 07.52.44 Join amiconn [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 07.54.34 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 07.56.43 Join mutnai [0] (b2849e75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.132.158.117) 08.07.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.10.18 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 08.15.57 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 08.18.31 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.18.43 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 08.28.37 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 08.30.02 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 08.34.25 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 08.41.46 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 09.08.54 Join petur [0] (~petur@213.224.21.58) 09.08.55 Quit petur (Changing host) 09.08.55 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.13.44 Quit mutnai (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.15.39 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 09.16.44 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 09.21.42 Join JanC_ [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 09.22.59 Nick JanC is now known as Guest1067 (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 09.22.59 Quit Guest1067 (Killed (adams.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) 09.22.59 Nick JanC_ is now known as JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 09.23.27 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.29.11 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 09.35.19 Join smoke_fumus [0] (~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90) 09.35.42 Quit smoke_fumus (Client Quit) 09.52.45 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09.54.40 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 09.55.37 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 10.07.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.39.50 # if that's the case why even have a release system 10.39.58 # rockbox rolling release 10.40.53 # making sure it booted is pretty time consuming task 10.43.41 # People would still use old releases, only they'd be more likely to be random ones instead of mostly the same 10.44.06 # And we'd need a fairly serious effort to tell everyone that we changed things 10.46.32 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-86-49-24-93.net.upcbroadband.cz) 10.46.33 # gevaerts: tagging in tree would more or less solve this 10.48.20 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 10.48.32 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 10.51.18 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 10.52.59 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.05.54 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 11.10.33 Join smoke_fumus [0] (~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90) 11.48.07 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.55.44 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11.55.48 Join pamaury_ [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.56.31 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 12.07.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.19.34 Part robertd1 12.25.04 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.37.29 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 12.50.20 Quit smoke_fumus (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 13.11.17 Quit pamaury_ (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 13.15.12 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 13.16.53 Join lyra_hs [0] (542a1418@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.42.20.24) 13.18.10 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@200.109.42.11) 13.18.38 # Hi. Can you say, where is placed main LD script(for firmware)? I found only LD script for plugins in apps/plugins/plugin.lds 13.24.38 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 13.25.44 Quit lyra_hs (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.29.00 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~textual@2a02:a454:38ea:1:347f:2074:5988:8c6) 13.32.36 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@91.red-88-10-180.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) 13.34.05 # eh, I was about to answer his question : P 13.47.22 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.51.56 Quit duncan^ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.00.06 Quit PimpiN8 (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) 14.06.38 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 14.06.53 Join lyra_hs [0] (542a1418@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.42.20.24) 14.07.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.07.20 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 14.08.06 # Hello again =p Can you say, where is placed main LD script(for firmware)? I found only LD script for plugins in apps/plugins/plugin.lds 14.11.40 # I can see the log, btw, #wodz 14.12.13 # lyra_hs: each target has its own linker script 14.12.17 # lyra_hs: linker scripts are in firmware/target// 14.12.41 # oh, I thought about it. Thanks 14.12.42 # for example firmware/target/arm/imx233/app.lds 14.12.47 # (and boot.lds for the bootloader) 14.13.19 # lyra_hs: At least every soc has different layout and sometimes targets with the same soc also have different layout (for example different amount of RAM) 14.21.21 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 14.28.18 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~textual@2a02:a454:38ea:1:c1ed:ad2:5ee5:3348) 14.36.04 # why is there only IRAM and DRAM? Where is flash? 14.39.02 # lyra_hs: most of our targets don't use flash 14.39.24 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 14.39.31 # lyra_hs: you may find rules for flash area in some boot.lds files 14.40.03 # Got it 14.40.17 # Thanks then! 14.40.45 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 14.43.18 # lyra_hs: ah, there is also rombox - version of rockbox intended to be flashed directly to some coldfire based irivers. 14.43.43 # gevaerts: ping 14.45.15 # There are players based on DSP? I even didn't know) 14.45.26 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 14.46.01 # lyra_hs: what are you refering to? 14.50.25 # Oh, sorry, I mistaken coldfire & blackfin 14.53.00 # lyra_hs: In general there are players based on DSP (cheap s1mp3 is Z80 + DSP). 14.53.15 # however we don't target those 15.01.58 Quit Senji (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.02.22 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 15.25.51 # there were discussions on a blackfin port here iirc 15.31.45 # yeah but blackfin is more of a general purpose DSP 15.32.20 # in particular it doesn't have weird 24-bit registers or things like that 15.56.19 Join __builtin [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-35-76.triad.res.rr.com) 15.56.19 Quit __builtin (Changing host) 15.56.19 Join __builtin [0] (~franklin@rockbox/developer/builtin) 16.00.19 Quit lyra_hs (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.00.34 Quit benedikt93 (Remote host closed the connection) 16.01.39 Join benedikt93 [0] (~quassel@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 16.02.43 Quit a-109-107 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.02.58 Join a-109-107 [0] (amk@2607:5300:60:7e7d::) 16.07.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.20.55 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.21.39 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 16.25.26 Join parchd [0] (~parchd@unaffiliated/parchd) 16.53.15 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.20.35 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 17.21.32 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.26.29 Join metaphys [0] (~metaphysi@86.120.53.108) 17.37.56 Quit petur (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 17.47.54 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.52.34 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-248-153.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 18.07.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.38.24 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 19.00.24 Join johnb3 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFF28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.10.18 Quit metaphys (Quit: Ex-Chat) 19.12.33 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.21.37 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 19.30.07 Part robertd1 19.34.09 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.35.34 Quit johnb3 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.36.34 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.42.30 # anyone tried one of those CF-SD adapters on a ipod classic? 20.03.46 # probably, and a lot of people ran into troubles iirc 20.07.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.28.00 Join Genju [0] (Genju@unaffiliated/genjuroxl) 20.28.07 # hullo 20.28.48 # any idea why my clip+ with rb 3.14 would show "ATA error: -4" when i try to boot it up with a µSD card in the slot? 20.28.48 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFF28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.29.00 Join cc___ [0] (~ac@2001:910:113f:1:6a05:caff:fe1c:1627) 20.30.12 Quit PimpiN8 (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) 20.33.11 # Genju: could be a problem with your SD card, does it boot without it? 20.34.25 # yeah, boots fine without it 20.34.43 # i'm trying it on another clip+ now, boots with the same card on rb 3.13, at least 20.34.48 # let me upgrade to 3.14 20.34.50 # Genju: Can try with the latest dev build? Saratoga has raised the supply voltage just a little bit because of a problem report with SD. 20.35.01 # *Can you 20.35.02 # oh, i'll try that 20.35.19 # "development version" in rbutil? 20.35.39 # what type of card is it (brand, size)? 20.36.00 # "paradies" 16 GB µSD 20.36.03 # from some german store 20.36.42 # I have no experience with this type ... 20.36.49 # me neither 20.36.54 # just saw it on sale today, heh 20.38.20 # i'll do some testing with the dev build and report back 20.38.22 # thanks for the tip 20.38.28 # the clip+ might be bork, though 20.38.44 # good thing i have 3, in theory 20.38.50 # can only actually find two of them at the moment :p 20.46.39 Quit parchd (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.48.27 Quit johnb4 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.55.20 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:d002:9403:7a42:9fd) 21.08.59 # ata error -4 after updating rb to the latest dev build 21.09.11 # boots with 3.13 21.20.01 # ok, both players updated to dev build now.. one boots with the sd card, the other doesn't 21.20.06 # looks like the one that doesn't boot is busted 21.24.23 Quit cc___ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.24.40 # or at least its sd slot is 21.37.06 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 21.54.53 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~textual@2a02:a454:38ea:1:c1ed:ad2:5ee5:3348) 21.55.54 Join smoke_fumus [0] (~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90) 21.56.24 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFF28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.58.01 Quit PimpiN8 (Remote host closed the connection) 22.02.49 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-245.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 22.05.27 Quit johnb4 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.07.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.15.22 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 22.24.22 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@91.red-88-10-180.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) 22.39.28 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.41.09 Join parchd [0] (~parchd@unaffiliated/parchd) 22.41.26 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 22.43.39 Quit xorly (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.46.54 Quit parchd (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.54.19 Quit CommunistWitchDr (Remote host closed the connection) 22.54.54 Join SovietShaman [0] (quasselcor@97-87-177-85.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 23.03.28 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23.05.11 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@200.109.42.11) 23.24.37 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 23.38.23 Join MrZeus1 [0] (~MrZeus@2a02:c7f:7066:fb00:2059:8558:665e:5e9b) 23.43.27 Join Senji_ [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 23.43.43 Quit Senji_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.44.42 Join Senji_ [0] (~Senji@85.187.103.250) 23.46.42 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)