--- Log for 13.07.117 Server: karatkievich.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 13 days ago 00.10.50 Join iceCalt [0] (~iceCalt@5.146.198.73) 00.11.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.11.18 # Under >RockBox Info I found MSD. Which means it does detect microSD cards. Let's see if it even plays them. 00.11.23 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 00.12.21 # Woah. Under >Files it shows a bunch more stuff. I can't remember if this used to be like this after all these years, but this is what I can live with. Is it even possible to move the 'update' on a microSD and run it from there? 00.17.46 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 00.28.57 # <__builtin> iceCalt: I believe so 00.29.03 # <__builtin> Bilgus_ should know the details 00.29.17 # Thanks! I will tinker with it later. Really late here :d 00.32.27 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 283 seconds) 00.32.30 Quit Aldem (Remote host closed the connection) 00.32.46 Join Aldem [0] (~Aldem@unaffiliated/aldem) 00.32.46 Join deevious_ [0] (~Thunderbi@193.226.142.214) 00.32.48 Join JanC_ [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 00.32.50 Quit JanC (Remote host closed the connection) 00.32.50 Quit deevious (Remote host closed the connection) 00.32.51 Nick deevious_ is now known as deevious (~Thunderbi@193.226.142.214) 00.34.03 Nick JanC_ is now known as JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 00.34.14 Quit ender` (Quit: Documentation is like sex: when it's good, it's very good, and when it's bad it's still better than nothing.) 00.34.51 Quit uwe_mobile__ (Remote host closed the connection) 00.34.58 Join uwe_mobile [0] (~uwe@static.173.76.9.176.clients.your-server.de) 00.35.01 Quit duo8 (Ping timeout: 251 seconds) 00.35.01 Quit sielicki (Ping timeout: 251 seconds) 00.40.00 # Removing the µSD, plugging it into a laptop and add a single new track onto it, inserting it into the Sansa and I need to scan the SD card again under Rockbox Info. Normal procedure? 00.40.56 Join duo8 [0] (~ZNC-SRV-H@27.76.252.104) 00.44.28 # Hm. Didn't show anything, had to re-insert it. Then it works. Might be just the old FW I have running. 00.44.56 Quit smoke_fumus (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 00.45.11 # <__builtin> iceCalt: when you press the select button in the Rockbox Info screen, it automatically starts scanning 00.48.38 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.48.52 # Had the case it showed or similar with nothing in there. Also in the Rockbox Info screen a wrong information about free storage on the sd card. Well. All I should do is to update the rockbox version instead of writing my remarks down :s 00.49.13 Quit robertd1 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.49.25 # <__builtin> are you still on the 2007 version? 00.50.40 # Yes :d 00.59.11 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 01.01.22 Join Bilgus_ph [0] (4cf32773@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.243.39.115) 01.03.33 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.03.34 # iceCalt: unfortunately the e200 bootloader won't compile at head although I have some patches that will shrink it down and even add enough room to allow us to add multiboot if you are willing to test 01.05.03 # Bilgus_ph: Sure! But let me find the usb cable first. Might take some time. 01.05.49 # np ill get it ready in the next day or two 01.06.34 # I'm sure I need more time than that. It's located in some of many boxes in my room :/ 01.09.31 # maybe ill add the c200, and m200 while i'm at it but have yet to find anyone with those to test 01.10.39 # Huntereb: all of those settings are both a blessing and a curselol 01.11.41 # Yeah, because some of them wouldn't exist if it weren't for annoying hardware "features" :P 01.12.25 # Oh, and just it being overwhelming in general I suppose, but I don't feel that way so much 01.12.57 # Bilgus_ph: Perhaps I'm able to score some of them for cheap. 01.13.27 # If there are any left lol 01.13.28 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.14.10 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 01.15.14 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.21.56 # I stick my eye out in case of any flea market occurs. 01.28.32 Quit iceCalt (Remote host closed the connection) 01.29.10 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 01.35.11 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02.11.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.18.03 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.21.45 Quit Bilgus_ph (Quit: Page closed) 02.38.13 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 02.46.34 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-193-67.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.50.05 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.36.31 Quit MrZeus (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.43.34 # @ iceCalt logs I doubt I'll able to do anything with the e200 and c200 V1 players bootloaders I'm sure they have a maximum size and even with removing everything that can be safely removed I 'm still like 30KB larger than the bootloader in 2009 which may be ok but without someone with information I'd rather not brick your device 04.08.20 Quit __builtin (Remote host closed the connection) 04.11.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.21.51 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.22.31 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 04.59.09 Join __builtin [0] (~franklin@cpe-71-71-35-76.triad.res.rr.com) 04.59.09 Quit __builtin (Changing host) 04.59.09 Join __builtin [0] (~franklin@rockbox/developer/builtin) 05.16.04 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.16.59 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 05.45.43 Join sielicki [0] (~sielicki@unaffiliated/n1cky) 05.52.22 Quit sielicki (Quit: WeeChat 1.9) 05.53.24 Join sielicki [0] (~sielicki@unaffiliated/n1cky) 06.04.50 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-182-56.mcn.bellsouth.net) 06.07.36 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.10.47 Quit __builtin (Remote host closed the connection) 06.11.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.08.34 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.10.26 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.19.56 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 07.26.14 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-190-169.mcn.bellsouth.net) 08.11.08 Quit deevious (Quit: deevious) 08.11.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.22.51 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.25.44 Join dys [0] (~dys@ip-109-44-2-227.web.vodafone.de) 08.28.48 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.37.31 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 08.38.34 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.42.34 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 08.43.19 Quit SovietShaman (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 08.47.17 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 08.49.00 Join deevious [0] (~Thunderbi@193.226.142.214) 08.53.04 Quit a-109-107 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 08.53.20 Join a-109-107 [0] (amk@2607:5300:60:7e7d::) 09.11.29 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 09.14.52 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09.17.20 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 09.35.48 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 09.55.12 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 09.59.19 Quit Jinx_Dojo (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.01.54 Join MrZeus [0] (~MrZeus@81.144.218.162) 10.03.07 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 10.04.21 Join Jinx [0] (Dojo@unaffiliated/jinx) 10.04.32 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 10.06.34 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.08.11 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 10.11.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.18.23 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 10.20.14 Join JanC_ [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 10.21.15 Quit JanC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.21.29 Nick JanC_ is now known as JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 10.39.05 Quit Bilgus_ (Remote host closed the connection) 10.39.42 Join Bilgus_ [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 10.57.00 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 10.59.11 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-86-49-24-93.net.upcbroadband.cz) 11.11.57 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 11.25.49 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 11.34.57 # ugh. The battery pins on my ipod video just broke... I only finished a big upgrade on it a few weeks ago. 11.35.21 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.35.22 # anyone have a suggestion for another player that can take multiple SD cards? 11.35.27 # (microSD) 11.40.20 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 11.43.13 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 11.44.29 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.46.27 Join elensil [0] (~edhelas@89.20.182.46.static.ef-service.nl) 12.01.04 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.01.38 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 12.11.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.21.58 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@200.109.42.11) 12.23.23 Quit robertd1 (Client Quit) 12.24.35 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 12.26.25 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@200.109.42.11) 12.30.55 Quit Moarc (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 12.33.33 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 12.33.54 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.54.31 Join iceCalt [0] (~iceCalt@5.146.198.73) 13.07.49 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@91.red-88-10-180.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) 13.11.04 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.11.19 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 13.11.46 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 13.20.42 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 13.22.24 Join CommunistWitchDr [0] (quasselcor@97-87-177-85.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 13.32.53 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 14.06.17 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.07.34 Quit Bilgus_ (Remote host closed the connection) 14.08.09 Join Bilgus_ [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 14.11.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.25.54 Quit robertd1 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.27.39 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@200.109.42.11) 14.30.21 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14.33.56 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.40.31 Quit iceCalt (Remote host closed the connection) 14.45.40 Join deep-book-gk_ [0] (~1wm_su@94.242.252.58) 14.46.40 Part deep-book-gk_ 14.48.16 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.52.47 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15.19.56 # tomflint fiio x5, ak100 15.20.56 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 15.26.05 # duo8: and one with rockbox support? :) 15.26.12 # none 15.26.28 # :( 15.34.36 Quit deevious (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.41.03 Join deevious [0] (~Thunderbi@193.226.142.214) 16.08.51 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.11.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.49.15 Join smoke_fumus [0] (~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90) 17.01.51 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17.14.02 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 17.19.14 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.44.22 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.59.10 Quit elensil (Quit: Leaving.) 18.03.05 Quit copper (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 18.03.40 Join copper [0] (~copper@unaffiliated/copper) 18.11.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.18.07 Join __builtin [0] (~xray@rockbox/developer/builtin) 18.26.42 Join johnb3 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFF36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.41.05 Join iceCalt [0] (~iceCalt@5.146.198.73) 19.10.31 Quit johnb3 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 19.13.24 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.18.36 Quit iceCalt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.21.19 Join iceCalt [0] (~iceCalt@5.146.198.73) 19.39.43 # man, everybody wants $100+ to solder these pins 19.43.03 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-183-14.mcn.bellsouth.net) 19.46.28 Quit atsampson (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.46.31 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.46.40 Quit Moarc (Quit: i znowu NADMUCHAŁ BALONA) 19.51.05 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 19.55.12 Join MrZeus1 [0] (~MrZeus@2a02:c7f:7066:fb00:5ded:841b:efa3:85ca) 20.03.11 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 20.04.45 Part robertd1 20.09.47 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@200.109.42.11) 20.11.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.15.00 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-245.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 20.22.11 Join robertd11 [0] (~root@201.208.232.184) 20.22.22 # tomflint: Might be best to check out your local hacker club who might be able to do it for a small donation? 20.24.05 Quit robertd1 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 20.24.33 Part robertd11 20.24.54 Join robertd11 [0] (~root@201.208.232.184) 20.29.19 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:9180:52fc:3fbb:bdcb) 20.32.44 # iceCalt: yeah, that is an option. Its pretty fine soldering work though. 20.34.07 # the best pricing I've found is about $70 (Canadian). I might just cut my losses and go back to my clip. 20.34.16 # Otherwise try teaching yourself how to do it, if nobody wants to do it. Sucks, but only reliable option in the end. 20.34.37 # yeah -- its like soldering six pieces of hair though. They're so fine. 20.35.01 # I can do normal soldering -- but not this precise 20.35.14 # :d 20.36.35 # which DAP are you using with rockbox, iceCalt? 20.37.16 # What's DAP? 20.37.32 # which audio player? 20.37.38 # Sansa e250 iirc 20.37.43 # About 10 years old. 20.39.58 # most of the players now have big, flashy screens and other features I'd like to avoid. ~2007 was a good time for these devices 20.40.15 # I got tired of my mobile phone. 20.40.43 # It's such a hassle to unlock and to select another music track nowadays. Unless you use a streaming app which can skip a track in a locked state. 20.40.57 # Also the boot time is likely non-existant with the music player 20.42.26 # definitely. With whatever I go to next, it'll have to have good battery life. Anyway, its a sad day.. I might just buy a new logic board. 20.43.14 # Might keep it and try fine-soldering till you feel confident to do it yourself. 20.43.26 # yeah, that's definitely a good option 20.43.52 # As a kid I used to throw away hardware pieces that might be easy to fix. 20.44.00 # But as a kid nobody told me. And Internet wasn't a thing back then :s 20.48.36 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-183-228.mcn.bellsouth.net) 20.48.47 Quit alucryd (Remote host closed the connection) 20.48.59 Join atsampson [0] (~ats@cartman.offog.org) 20.52.26 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.52.52 # I think I'm going to go with a xDuoo X3. There's an unoffical rockbox port too 20.54.31 # Honestly I have no clue about music players. I'm happy to re-vived the device I have sitting here unused for five years. 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Happens all the time or just not on fresh reboots? 22.32.39 Quit ender` (Quit: C++ is a modern language where your parent can't touch your privates but your friends can!) 22.34.11 # <__builtin> it's not very consistent 22.36.28 # <__builtin> heh, it hasn't happened since I mentioned it here 22.37.55 # Is there an audiophile guide on the sansa line? Eg, how good the dacs are and stuff? I got some sony headphones from Wallyworld yesterday and they sound a lot better to me than the reviews described, so I thought maybe it was that I configured my audio settings very well, or maybe my device is just better in general at audio output lol 22.38.54 Quit iceCalt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.38.56 Join iceCalt__ [0] (~iceCalt@5.146.198.73) 22.39.14 # Like as in, maybe reviews said they were bad at bass, but they're not bad at all. I'd say even a tiny step up if anything, for in-ear headphones at least. 22.54.32 Join iceCalt [0] (~iceCalt@5.146.198.73) 22.54.32 Quit iceCalt__ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.57.29 # you also have to think of the people reviewing those things 22.59.31 # like I pull up next to people that think their stereo sounds awesome even though it distorts on every bass line, all the consumer headphones I've bought in the last few years have way too much bass I think 'Beats' is to blame 23.01.08 # Bilgus_ yeah, true... Consumers just assume that if something is more expensive, it sounds better tho, so the fact that I see "Eh, it's ok" on relatively cheap headphones probably doesn't tell me much. 23.01.33 # Though, I can't say I'm a master at audio or anything, after all the standard for my audio library is mp3 v0 lol 23.02.54 # Headphones are best if they keep the outside sound away. 23.03.12 # I had once some beggar following me across a parking lot. He wanted 50 cents. I was on my way to a train. 23.03.31 # Oh and I just heard the beats brand uses the cheapest shit ever and the brand is all that brings the value up, I've seen reviews talking about them being distorted and awful consumer-tier headphones with rediculous pricetags. 23.03.34 # >apple shit 23.03.39 # >ever 23.04.15 # It was the same before apple bought beats 23.04.37 # iceCalt I'm not going to mess with your bootloader unless I can get someone with some knowledge of them as I don't want to brick your player 23.04.45 # I heard a prof saying "his friend" at bose was just moving cables away and made a progress in sound. 23.05.07 # Bilgus_: isn't there an unbrick tutorial available? :d 23.05.50 # sure but why risk it 23.06.14 # If I get hands on a cheap one, might risk it 23.06.39 # you should be able to use the latest release and if not then we can worry about it 23.07.13 # Sure. Still didn't find the usb cable. 23.07.40 # all I know is I pulled out everything non essential and it was still 30kb larger that the bootloader in 2009 23.07.42 # and not knowing the size limit I'd rather not brick your player 23.08.15 # Do you know when the syntax changed for the version numbering? 23.08.41 # now if we get someone that knows the e-200 V1 then I'd feel more confident 23.09.21 # The dev for it not on board anymore? 23.09.38 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 23.09.41 # before my time.. 23.09.47 # ah 23.11.43 # yeah no clue I'm sure there are a few around but who knows lol 23.12.23 # I'm sure I didn't think on logging into irc back in 2007 23.12.37 # And I don't know what made me getting rockbox onto my device 23.12.44 # I really don't like messing with bootloaders without a device to test on before I send it out to other people 23.13.23 # I'll check market places for cheap devices when I have time for this task. Then we could kinda cooperate on this :D 23.15.59 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.17.01 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 23.17.58 # sure 23.21.48 Quit bray90820 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.26.59 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 23.27.38 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 23.49.28 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.50.30 Quit robertd11 (Quit: Leaving.)