--- Log for 24.08.117 Server: karatkievich.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 17 hours ago 00.11.09 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 00.12.31 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 00.21.31 # <__builtin> I think that's it, unless you want a cloak or forum badge 00.23.31 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.25.06 Join bray90820_ [0] (~bray90820@50-83-217-236.client.mchsi.com) 00.26.51 Quit bray90820 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.29.46 # Hm, I think a cloak wouldn't be bad. 00.31.15 # gevaerts: Can you cloak me? 00.35.36 # <__builtin> scorche's the channel admin 00.35.55 # <__builtin> but you'll need to register your nick first, I believe 00.37.13 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.39.27 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.42.59 Quit ender` (Quit: An alcoholic is someone you don't like who drinks as much as you do. — Dylan Thomas) 00.43.49 # <__builtin> ulmutul: so just /msg NickServ register 00.44.23 # I searched my old rockbox mails, and there stood that gevaerts can do this. 00.45.04 # Ok, I think I'll do this tomorrow. Bedtime for now o/ 00.45.13 # <__builtin> o/ 00.45.28 # (And I hope the build system has finished then :)) 00.45.35 # <__builtin> :D 00.45.51 Quit ulmutul (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 55.0.2/20170814072924]) 00.47.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.49.47 # I got my confirmation email on the clipzip http://www.mediafire.com/view/3mzcbigbm9lt0mc/clipzip.png 00.53.17 # <__builtin> dang 00.53.23 # <__builtin> it's not on backorder or anything? 00.53.30 # nope 00.53.44 # <__builtin> *niiiice* 00.56.15 # yeah I'll keep you all updated when it arrives Maybe this is old stock or maybe they are sending me a clip sport or some shit 00.57.18 # <__builtin> the Fuze+ is in stock too, apparently 00.57.37 # already have one of those though 01.07.23 Quit beveradb (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.08.04 Join beveradb [0] (~beveradb@irc.beveridge.uk) 01.39.34 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.40.37 Join dys [0] (~dys@x5f724540.dyn.telefonica.de) 01.59.39 Nick Aldem_ is now known as Aldem (~Aldem@unaffiliated/aldem) 02.02.54 Quit MrZeus (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.26.13 Quit cc___ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.47.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.12.22 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.33.15 Quit Jinx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.47.00 Join Jinx [0] (Dojo@unaffiliated/jinx) 04.47.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.49.51 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 04.58.39 Quit __builtin (Remote host closed the connection) 05.30.46 Quit Ruhan (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 06.23.52 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 06.23.59 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.31.10 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 06.34.10 Quit Bilgus_ (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 06.35.32 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.38.14 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 06.46.35 Quit Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 06.46.55 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 06.47.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.59.27 Quit Bilgus (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 07.01.59 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 07.21.03 Quit nlogex (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 07.28.32 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 07.31.05 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.31.31 Join nlogex [0] (~nlogex@198-16-168-171.on.cable.ebox.net) 07.32.18 Join Bilgus_ [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 07.35.50 Quit Bilgus (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 07.38.51 Join Bilgus [0] (~Bilgus@gateway/tor-sasl/bilgus) 07.42.37 Quit Bilgus_ (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 07.43.04 Quit Soap (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.45.06 Join Soap [0] (~Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 08.03.19 Quit sielicki (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.07.44 Join sielicki [0] (~sielicki@unaffiliated/n1cky) 08.08.38 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-86-49-24-93.net.upcbroadband.cz) 08.18.36 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.31.08 # Bilgus: too bad blacks are not around, but I could live with this still if they are actual zips 08.31.27 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.31.39 # i'll let you know when I get my hands on it 08.32.06 # the blue seemed to be the least ugly of the colors 08.44.46 Quit amiconn (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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ZZZzzz…) 15.09.04 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.09.41 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 15.41.45 Part varogami ("WeeChat 1.9") 16.07.43 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 16.08.18 Quit Ruhan (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 16.38.30 Join Ruhan [0] (uid76353@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-avseqppqdiwodwxh) 16.47.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.54.44 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~textual@145.132.155.235) 16.58.26 Quit PimpiN8 (Client Quit) 17.18.53 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 17.56.34 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.03.40 Join __builtin [0] (~alpha@cpe-71-71-34-79.triad.res.rr.com) 18.03.40 Quit __builtin (Changing host) 18.03.40 Join __builtin [0] (~alpha@rockbox/developer/builtin) 18.22.09 Join cc___ [0] (~ac@2001:910:113f:1:6a05:caff:fe1c:1627) 18.25.18 # <_meg> 'Rockbox Pi' released ? 18.27.11 # <__builtin> unfortunately we haven't had reason to release 3.14.1 18.29.07 # <_meg> 3.14.1 should be 'Rockbox Pee' 18.34.40 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 18.34.44 # Sandisk shipped me that 4GB clip zip i ordered 18.35.03 # or at least they shipped something, i got a tracking number 18.36.11 # I also ordered 2 units, v1 and non-v1 via my USA minions 18.36.28 # I so hope this works 18.36.39 # its a shame they only have the zip, I already have like 3 or 4 18.36.56 # Bilgus_: sorry I jumped the gun, but keep me posted still, this is exciting :P 18.37.05 # saratoga: do you happen to have black? 18.37.07 # <__builtin> they have the Fuze+, too 18.37.35 # no, i have a red, purple and maybe some other colors 18.37.46 # oh wait yes i do have a black one :) 18.37.54 # <_meg> what so good about this sansidk clip zip ? 18.37.57 # <_meg> shown as 'Discontinued by Manufacturer' 18.38.14 # tiny little player with good battery life and an SD card slot 18.38.31 # we also spent most of the last decade hacking the hardware so it works pretty well at this point 18.39.37 # _meg: for me: 1) ability to run rockbox 2) usb micro charger (fits all my other gadgets) 3) external memory card slot 4) radio (for emergency purposes) 5) sound recorder (I record all my communications with officials) 18.41.02 # <_meg> hm.. is it a water/splash proof ? what the op-amp onboard? 18.42.54 # I have used some silicon covers from ebay for it. it is not rain-proof. but I rejuvenated mine after a local monsoon by drying it thoroughly 18.43.34 # <_meg> how handy is the recorder ? supports huge cards? 18.45.04 # I read ebay listings that it supports 128 GB 18.45.09 # but dunno really 18.45.53 # <_meg> can i run midi in background in modern rockbox versions? 18.46.19 # recorder sound quality for me is excellent, but I'm no hifi listener. damn handy and people who I am recording don't have a clue what I'm doing 18.46.49 # (recording one's own communications, even with governmental officials is legal in my jurisdiction) 18.47.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.50.15 # <_meg> im ok if you are recording yourself 24/7 18.55.13 # everything supports 128GB SD cards, you just have to reformat them to fat32 18.55.22 # the hardware limit is 2 TB IIRC 18.58.45 Join p3tur [0] (~petur@77.246.35.40) 18.58.45 Quit p3tur (Changing host) 18.58.45 Join p3tur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.01.53 Quit p3tur (Client Quit) 19.02.14 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.09.32 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:18c2:f60e:93ce:409e) 19.21.50 Quit parchd (Quit: Lost terminal) 19.24.27 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-177-206.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.47.01 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.25.23 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 20.47.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.58.09 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-51-123-75.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 20.58.28 # the clip zip has the same chip as the clip+ which has pretty good sound quality, not as good as an I pod but damn close plus its tiny 20.59.30 # <_meg> i want tiny recorder to hang on a drone for engine sound recording 21.02.47 Join uwe_mobile [0] (~uwe@static.173.76.9.176.clients.your-server.de) 21.04.46 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 21.06.30 # I think I'd go with something else, I mean while it is possible to change the microphone its not the best recording quality while stock and is going to pick up all unwanted noise as well 21.07.10 # well nm if you want it to record engine noise it'd pick that up well 21.07.49 # <_meg> for daily recording i normally using rockbox ipod6G+belkin mic or 4s+iM2 21.08.58 Join _cereal [0] (2e7df903@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.125.249.3) 21.12.49 # <_cereal> what a pity, a great chance to buy a Clip Zip, but citizens outside the U.S are at a disadvantage... 21.13.28 # So with all there people who ordered the clipzip including me I wonder if they are new old stock, refurb, or maybe sandisk got their heads out of their butts and started making them again 21.13.43 # all the* 21.14.44 # I really wonder what significance the (V1) has in the model name 21.15.52 # <_meg> clipzilla mania 21.18.48 # With offerings of the AGPtek and all the great stuff their product wasn't this is just what this community asked for a small cheap rockbox capable player 21.19.58 # <__builtin> Bilgus_: btw, you've been made an Expert on the forums :) 21.20.06 # I just hope its not a sansa sport, jame either directly or in disguise 21.20.13 # Jam* 21.20.47 # yes thanks for noticing __builtin :) 21.21.07 # <__builtin> congrats! 21.21.31 # <_cereal> congrats Bilgus_ 21.21.58 # <_cereal> the AGPtek player has no color screen, so not that nice 21.22.39 # <_meg> eh.. if possible to run rockbox on fiio X3, im gonna try to fix the broken and stuck power button, otherwise it is a brick with squared firmwares and unfriendly interface and so 21.25.30 # Thanks! 21.27.37 # <_cereal> Bilgus_: regarding your post about the D2, you're right, but I still hope, that there will be a proper read-only support, or even proper write support 21.28.37 # <_cereal> in the meantime the workaround to remove the block around panicf() in dc_writeback_callback() in fat.c works 21.30.43 # Without a Dev with the device in hand I doubt much work will get done on it, but It wouldn't be too very hard to change the order of the drives in the firmware, it would be hard to add read-only support to RB as we don't have it 21.31.17 # <_cereal> saratoga suggested to disable the internal storage entirely, but how can I do that, I have limited experience in compiling 21.34.31 # <_cereal> not to speak of coding 21.37.46 # brb 21.42.18 # https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/03dd4b92be7dcd5c8ab06da3810887060e06abd5/firmware/common/disk.c#L261 21.43.20 # if you just set i = 1 instead it would skip the internal drive completely 21.43.53 # but rather than doing that i'd just flip the order so it mounts the internal drive last 21.47.12 # int i = NUM_VOLUMES - 1; i > 0; i-- 21.47.50 # <_cereal> what's the benfit of mounting the internal drive last? 21.48.37 # no that'd be int i = NUM_VOLUMES - 1; i >= 0 or the previous and subtract 1 from storage_present(i-1)) and mounted += disk_mount(i-1); 21.49.36 # well it would allow you to still have access to the internal drive, RB will mount the first drive as its storage 21.50.02 # as in the first drive you mount will become the 'Primary' drive 21.52.34 # <_cereal> and rockbox always writes to the 'Primary' drive? 21.58.42 # yep afaik 22.02.01 # <_cereal> ok, thanks. I think for me the easyier way would be to change i = 0 to i = 1 in line 261 22.04.58 Part _cereal 22.07.27 # well as long as you don't want to access the internal drive that'll work 22.07.43 # we should just change the D2 port to use the SD card as the primary storage if its present 22.18.18 Quit Ruhan (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 22.19.05 # we could just add it to the multiboot loader 22.19.38 # changes its install a bit but it'd at least be consistent 22.21.13 # I'm still waiting for jhMikeS to finish up his file system rework but it'll eventually get done 22.34.04 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.35.06 # <__builtin> so I emailed Sandisk about whether or not the "legacy" players were available 22.36.09 # <__builtin> https://pastebin.com/t6wsbr7y was their response 22.39.05 Join CH23 [0] (5594df77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.148.223.119) 22.39.38 # the suspense. 22.40.15 # well its not listed in their legacy players list is it? https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4487/~/support-information-for-legacy-mp3-products 22.40.17 # would it be possible to use a clip zip mainboard as replacement for a clip plus? 22.41.10 # it's basically the same pcb layout, apart from a colour display, right? 22.42.10 # doubt it 22.42.43 # might be able to shoehorn the whole thing in though 22.44.26 # i really like the no-nonsense 1bit oled display of the clip plus 22.45.18 # <__builtin> Bilgus_: hmm, true 22.45.51 # <__builtin> perhaps the Zip and Fuze+ aren't really legacy players but just unlisted? 22.46.32 Join Ruhan [0] (uid76353@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wljnthxwqvsajdcn) 22.46.52 # I thought I read somewhere they were being discontinued but I couldn't say it was an official announcement 22.47.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.53.03 Join ulmutul [0] (~chatzilla@dslb-178-009-173-176.178.009.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 22.55.08 # ulmutul: no. I don't have any special irc powers 22.55.11 # You need scorche 22.55.27 # * gevaerts is fairly sure those old mails didn't say that :) 22.56.00 # Hm, maybe I misread, and it was about something else :) Thanks anyway! 22.56.11 # I can do forum stuff! 22.56.11 # it was me all along! 22.56.24 # i think the old emails just said me for everything 22.56.40 # (and in theory gerrit stuff, but my login is as broken as everyone else's) 22.58.56 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 55.0.2/20170814072924]) 22.59.17 # Probably it was the forum sticker than. 23.00.04 # scorche|sh: what must I do to become cloaked by you? 23.00.10 # Hmm, that needs to be done too I guess :) 23.00.36 # * gevaerts promotes ulmutul's forum account 23.00.59 # OMG, I'm become famous :D 23.03.25 # my guess is they had some old stock on hand for RMAs and they're selling it off now 23.04.13 # ulmutul: you are a new developer? Sorry for being a bit out of touch :) 23.05.06 # has anyone tested out playlists in 3.14 when using SD? I thought jhMikeS recommitted my old fix for the ambiguous paths, but someone in forums said it was still broken 23.05.34 # scorche|sh: more than a year, actually :) 23.05.38 # We're slow these days 23.05.45 # <__builtin> for longer than I've been one 23.05.48 # No, it's quiet some time ago, but I was happy with just having commit acces until __builtin talked to me ;) 23.06.16 # He does have that effect 23.06.20 # i think the email i sent you tells you to ask scorche :) 23.06.39 # saratoga: like an .m3u8 file? 23.06.42 # yeah 23.07.07 # i play using an m3u8 playlist i keep on the sd card 23.07.12 # like if an m3u says "C:\mymusic" where does the player look for that folder if you have internal and sd storage 23.07.50 # should look on the same volume as the .m3u file unless the logic got broken 23.07.54 # ah. since i keep the m3u8 in the root folder of my music, i list starting the direct directories in that folder 23.08.20 # try putting a C:\ and see if it still works 23.08.24 # ulmutul: you need to register your nick first 23.08.42 # https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration 23.09.56 # saratoga: could you give me an exact example of a full path? 23.11.23 # so if your music is on the SD card in //myfolder/myfile.mp3, try changing the path to "C:\myfolder\myfile.mp3" with the m3u file stored on the sd card 23.11.46 # it should be smart enough to figure out that the "C:\" means "whatever storage the playlist is on" 23.12.24 # whatever storage the playlist m3u file is stored on more specifically 23.17.09 # works for me 23.17.40 # i can't test it with anything on the internal memory sadly, as the internal flash locked up last week 23.22.30 Quit Jinx (Quit: reboot) 23.27.23 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 23.28.33 Nick ulmutul is now known as ulmutul_ (~chatzilla@dslb-178-009-173-176.178.009.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 23.29.58 Nick ulmutul_ is now known as ulmutul (~chatzilla@dslb-178-009-173-176.178.009.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 23.30.51 # scorche|sh: I'm registered now. Can you cloak me? 23.44.56 Quit CH23 () 23.45.17 Quit ulmutul (Changing host) 23.45.17 Join ulmutul [0] (~chatzilla@rockbox/developer/ulmutul) 23.45.33 # ulmutul: you should be good 23.45.34 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.46.20 # Great, thank you! 23.48.44 Nick __builtin is now known as | (~alpha@rockbox/developer/builtin) 23.48.48 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 23.52.47 Nick | is now known as __builtin (~alpha@rockbox/developer/builtin) 23.57.07 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection)