--- Log for 19.09.117 Server: barjavel.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 0 hours ago 00.01.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.25.10 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.48.42 Quit ender` (Quit: We are surprised at our own versatility in being able to fail in so many different ways. — Samuel McChord Crothers) 01.57.12 Part robertd1 01.58.18 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.59.48 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 02.01.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.01.39 Quit Ruhan (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 02.04.03 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.08.18 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 02.25.06 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 04.01.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.59.55 Join bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@50-83-217-236.client.mchsi.com) 05.14.09 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 05.23.23 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.00.21 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.00.28 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 06.01.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.04.05 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.04.25 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 06.05.21 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 06.05.28 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@ip5b4177dc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 06.05.28 Quit kugel (Changing host) 06.05.28 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 06.05.56 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06.06.32 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.13.21 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 06.16.05 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.18.36 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@ip5b4177dc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 06.18.37 Quit kugel (Changing host) 06.18.37 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 06.48.10 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 06.52.03 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06.52.15 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 07.32.35 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.33.07 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 08.01.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.02.45 Quit bray90820 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.04.47 Join bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@50-83-217-236.client.mchsi.com) 08.05.23 Quit idonob (*.net *.split) 08.05.23 Quit prg318 (*.net *.split) 08.05.23 Quit paulk-gagarine (*.net *.split) 08.05.23 Quit tchan (*.net *.split) 08.05.24 Quit CustosL1men (*.net *.split) 08.05.24 Quit Slasheri (*.net *.split) 08.05.37 Join CustosL1men [0] (~CustosLim@unaffiliated/cust0slim3n) 08.05.42 Join prg318 [0] (~prg@deadcodersociety/prg318) 08.07.40 Join paulk-gagarine [0] (~paulk-gag@gagarine.paulk.fr) 08.09.32 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08.09.35 Quit nialv7 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 08.09.56 Quit EmanueleSorce[m] (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.09.57 Quit walle303 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.10.51 Join idonob [0] (~Owner@S010600259c3e7d7b.vs.shawcable.net) 08.10.51 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 08.10.51 Join Slasheri [0] (~miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 08.12.35 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 08.13.31 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.21.57 Join johnb3 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFF3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.30.47 Quit johnb3 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.41.01 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.41.48 Quit amiconn (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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I do have one question: for building new firmware, do i only need patch http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1613/ 08.50.25 Join dys [0] (~dys@tmo-122-172.customers.d1-online.com) 09.10.02 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09.10.54 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 09.14.07 Quit bray90820 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09.16.08 Join bray90820 [0] (~bray90820@50-83-217-236.client.mchsi.com) 09.20.11 Join walle303 [0] (walle303ke@pisg/dev/walle303) 09.20.50 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 09.49.46 Join nialv7 [0] (m7nialmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pdarupgszucdwyjg) 09.49.47 Join EmanueleSorce[m] [0] (emanueleso@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-aiizuafwvtsrumzo) 09.53.26 Quit michaelni (Quit: Leaving) 09.54.27 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.57.16 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 10.01.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.02.32 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 10.06.20 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 10.17.38 Quit michaelni (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.19.57 Join dys [0] (~dys@2003:5b:203b:100:6af7:28ff:fe06:801) 10.34.32 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 10.50.25 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@2001:da8:215:4ff:910:5831:5c88:9b15) 10.53.42 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 10.54.51 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.03.46 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@wced-103-219-32-147.feld.cvut.cz) 11.10.44 Quit CH23 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.19.34 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.23.05 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 11.57.40 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.58.27 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.59.16 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.211.80.47) 12.01.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.02.55 Quit Jinx (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.16.38 Join Jinx [0] (Dojo@unaffiliated/jinx) 12.40.34 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.43.47 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 13.08.01 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.11.22 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@87.118.138.79) 13.40.28 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 13.43.32 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.01.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.08.04 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.08.53 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 14.26.23 # I have upload the bootloader for sony on dropbox since Zagor is not responding. We'll switch them to download.rockbox.org when they are available. https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SonyNWLinuxPort now has the links 14.26.54 Quit St0neHead- (Remote host closed the connection) 14.34.41 # Pamaury thanks for the updloads 14.49.28 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@202.142.33.126) 14.49.40 Quit JdGordon_ (Changing host) 14.49.40 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.52.20 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.53.00 # CH23 (logs), yes 1613 has all the goods http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51844.msg240296.html#msg240296 15.11.04 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.11.59 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 15.27.27 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.31.47 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 99cc8f8, 273 builds, 15 clients. 15.40.08 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 15.51.44 Join bray90820_ [0] (~bray90820@50-83-217-236.client.mchsi.com) 15.53.45 Quit bray90820 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16.00.55 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.00.56 # I suspect the build server does a very poor job of assigning some builds, leading to one client doing all the builds at the end while the other sit and do nothing 16.01.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.01.56 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 16.06.20 # great, it's stuck again 16.09.21 # if only we could access some debug logs of the server, we could at least try to understand the problem... 16.22.34 Quit derf (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.23.44 Join derf [0] (~derf@static-108-18-126-14.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 16.35.10 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 16.38.18 Join Ruhan [0] (uid76353@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vpbxwyozofrfphrd) 17.09.53 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.30.38 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 17.34.17 Quit petur (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 17.37.38 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.43.30 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 17.43.34 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.44.17 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.49.36 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 18.01.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.08.02 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:a8f3:f42d:fd3e:5c05) 18.14.26 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.20.15 Quit ungali (Remote host closed the connection) 18.26.27 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.27.55 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 18.35.47 Join cc___ [0] (~ac@2001:910:113f:1:6a05:caff:fe1c:1627) 19.13.46 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.15.05 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-177-206.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.20.58 Quit paulk-gagarine (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.23.20 Join paulk-gagarine [0] (~paulk-gag@gagarine.paulk.fr) 19.24.36 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFF3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.31.48 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 19.32.22 Join paulk-gagarine-s [0] (~paulk-gag@gagarine.paulk.fr) 19.34.20 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@rockbox/developer/thomasjfox) 19.34.20 Quit cc___ (Quit: WeeChat 1.9) 19.34.34 Quit paulk-gagarine (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.35.14 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 19.36.31 Join cc___ [0] (~ac@2001:910:113f:1:6a05:caff:fe1c:1627) 19.55.48 # pamaury (logs): thanks for the dropbox links! 19.56.09 # Is it normal that there is no result in scsitool? 19.56.13 # D:\Users\Ludo\Documents\Sony Walkman>scsitool-nwz-v9.exe E: do_fw_upgrade 19.56.14 # Result: 19.56.16 # D:\Users\Ludo\Documents\Sony Walkman> 20.01.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.01.53 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.02.04 Quit johnb4 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.02.13 # lebellium: I don't remember, the result is that your device reboots :-p 20.02.20 # I know 20.02.26 # it's obvious 20.02.33 # but... why? :P 20.02.57 # Is "result" a generic line for all commands? 20.04.28 # yes 20.04.45 # ok 20.04.52 # I'll have a look to make it less confusing 20.05.11 # regarding the bootloader, I don't know if you remember but we discussed about some improvement ideas back to the time 20.05.33 # like for example the fact that it remembers the last choice (Rockbox or OF) 20.05.40 # it does remember the last choice 20.06.02 # at least over suspend (but not over reboots) 20.06.27 # when I power off from Rockbox, it goes back to the bootloader screen 20.06.34 # and you have the 10s timeout again 20.06.41 # I have to go to Tools>Shutdown 20.07.45 # yes I don't think doing a real power down is a good choice. Maybe we could suspend on "power off", but then we would need a way to go back to the bootloader 20.09.02 # so how do you currently suspend it? 20.09.40 # the bootloader suspends it on timeout (on hold) 20.10.11 # you should anyway always put it on hold when you power off because any button wakes up the device 20.10.25 # ah yes I didn't remember the hold trick 20.10.43 # it's strange because when you press any key it wakes up immediately 20.10.51 # it's hard to believe it's "off" :D 20.11.07 # because it's not off 20.11.11 # yes 20.11.14 # it's suspended 20.11.18 # but it works too well 20.12.00 # I mean I see no problem in mapping our "power off" to suspend, but then we need a way to go back to the bootloader, maybe an option in the system menu? 20.12.31 # Probably this shoudl be explained on the wiki by the way 20.12.53 # even if you add an option in the Rockbox system menu, what if you launched the OF? the reset hole? :S 20.13.53 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 20.14.34 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.14.36 # The hold trick is actually quite good (assuming the hold button is not broken), it must just be documented indeed 20.15.10 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 20.15.39 # if you reset, it launches the bootloader first 20.15.55 # it you launch the OF then, the only way to go back to the bootloader is usb mode or reset hole 20.16.12 # ah indeed 20.16.35 Join CH23 [0] (5594df77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.148.223.119) 20.16.56 # do you want to edit the wiki to describe all this or should I do it? 20.17.16 # lebellium: by the way, could you ask people aroun about this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51792.msg240550.html#msg240550 20.17.32 # basically I need someone with a non-black NW-A35 to run a few scsitool commands 20.17.55 # Is it possible to have 2 different behaviours for the same key? Like 2-3s press on "pwr off" is suspend and 5s is fully off? 20.18.28 Join johnb3 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFF3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.19.05 # not with the current rockbox code 20.19.12 # also I think it would be confusing 20.21.48 # If it's possible, I would then add a setting in system menu for the power off behaviour: back to bootloader or suspend 20.22.08 # thus it would be possible to avoid the annoying timeout at startup and shutdown 20.27.03 # I'll see for the non-black A35 20.29.54 # pamaury: 20.29.59 # Charcoal Black : 00 00 00 00 20.30.01 # Bordeaux Pink : 04 00 00 00 20.30.02 # Cinnabar Red : 05 00 00 00 20.30.04 # Viridian Blue : 07 00 00 00 20.30.05 # Lime Yellow : 0b 00 00 00 20.30.07 # is not enough? 20.34.03 # nevermind, I understood your issue 20.38.31 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.39.26 # I still don't know for sure if the color is store on the nvp but that seems plausible, hopefully we can find where 20.39.34 Quit johnb3 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.39.45 # I asked for a volunteer on my french forum 20.39.49 # will see 20.40.37 Join paulk-gagarine [0] (~paulk-gag@gagarine.paulk.fr) 20.43.27 Quit paulk-gagarine-s (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.44.42 # cool thanks, I hope the nvp node is in the list of the one I dump in the script 20.46.06 # I assume nothing more in the service manual page 9 helps you? 20.53.16 # Bilgus: thanks, i tried building it but i seem to receive some errors. first here's the bash script i run: https://pastebin.com/RF6LJ4LN and here's the output: https://ghostbin.com/paste/q2zmo 20.53.35 # i'm a noob when it comes to this stuff not working 20.55.06 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 20.56.13 # what are the contents of saving rejects to file firmware/include/dircache_redirect.h.rej 20.56.22 # lebellium: not really 20.57.18 # ok 20.57.59 # I'm writing a first draft for how the bootloader is working 20.58.02 # on the wiki 20.58.13 # https://ghostbin.com/paste/33hcu Bilgus 21.05.47 # CH23 try adding http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1556/ prior to 1613 21.09.17 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-86-49-24-93.net.upcbroadband.cz) 21.15.29 # lebellium: in your draft, I think it's important to explain the difference between: bootloader, rockbox, OF, USB screen. With pictures 21.15.41 # and then how one goes from one to another (if possible) 21.17.54 # Bilgus: it seems to work now. will now put it on my SD and see if it runs. 21.19.03 # ok good I really don't remember having to put on 1556 first but since its the parent of 1613 It is probably automagic when doing an actual checkout 21.19.40 # i tried that but got so many files and really i just want simple stuff 21.25.43 # what's nvram.bin, found in .rockbox? 21.25.45 Join dys [0] (~dys@tmo-108-35.customers.d1-online.com) 21.26.33 # it holds player settings 21.26.40 # pamaury: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SonyNWLinuxPort 21.27.46 # CH23: iirc it's on old trick to store "nvram setting" in a file when the player does not have an nvram 21.27.55 # but I don't know/think it's really used anymore 21.28.35 # I might be wrong, but still most settings are not stored there for sure 21.28.52 Quit Huntereb (Quit: See ya!) 21.29.39 Join Huntereb [0] (~Huntereb@d-209-42-136-145.cpe.metrocast.net) 21.32.14 # lebellium: I think it's pretty clear overall. It's missing one bit: "how to activate usb mode?" 21.32.27 # it's missing because I didn't really test it ahaha 21.32.29 # you need to explain one has to go back to the bootloader from rockbox 21.32.30 # feel free 21.33.16 Quit _meg (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.33.56 Join _meg [0] (~notsure@211.25.203.45) 21.34.37 # it seems to boot but i'm a bit confused; in Debug Menu > Boot data, it shows Boot Volume: <0>, Root: /<0> 21.35.49 # pamaury: USB is not working for transferts but charging is working fine in Rockbox? 21.36.51 # yes 21.36.59 # for transfers you need to go to the bootloader 21.37.10 # Ok 21.37.13 # I add it 21.37.30 # ah now, you're already doing it 21.37.32 # :P 21.38.36 # I added it :-p 21.39.00 # a bit too fast :P 21.39.21 # "The OF is always going to the Standby mode when pressing the PWR OFF button. As a result, when turning it back on, it is immediately back to the OF, skipping the bootloader screen." => I assume it can be removed for USB? 21.39.53 # not sure what you mean 21.39.55 # CH23, where did you put the .rockbox folder? 21.40.21 # the root of my µSD card 21.40.27 # pamaury: read again your edit, I think there is a copy&paste mistake 21.40.56 # oops yes 21.41.42 # perfect 21.42.05 # We don't even need a formal user manual 21.42.11 # those wiki instructions are awesome \o/ 21.42.17 # is there a rockbox_main.clipzip file in the root of the sd card ** put '/' no quotes in there to be sure it is pointing to the root of the sd 21.42.18 # We'll update it based on feedback, or on changes to the bootloader 21.43.57 # i uses a shell, and simply typed >rockbox_main.clipplus 21.44.21 # clip+ actually 21.45.08 # well edit it and put '/', sorry I thought you were using the clip zip 21.46.05 # in the dbg menu it should read 'Boot Volume: <1> Root:/<1>/ 21.46.08 # ' 21.46.31 # how can that menu entry be there though? 21.46.51 # the original firmware doesn't have it and i can't write to the internal memory 21.47.46 Quit cc___ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.48.01 # hmm good point then maybe you have internal memory disabled?? check further down and see if it says CRC: OK! 21.48.14 # it doesn't say that 21.48.28 # what does it say? 21.48.55 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFF3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.49.09 # huh wtf now it says 1 instead of 0 21.49.23 # does it say CRC: OK? 21.49.26 # yes 21.49.32 # OK! even 21.49.33 # ok then all is well 21.49.49 # odd that it didn't at first though 21.49.59 # might try restart and see what it says 21.50.08 # doing that already lol 21.51.22 # when it said 0, the magic was Magic!, now it's slightly distorted, shows tofu 21.52.09 # as in, tofu, non displayable characters 21.52.38 # yeah it overwrites part of RBMagic! with the data 21.52.51 # oh ok 21.53.09 # it isn't needed to be intact after the bootloader uses it 21.53.39 # and now in 'files' it shows microSD0 and microSD1, which it didn't when i just booted first time after replacing the precompiled with mine 21.54.24 # gevaerts: who can unstuck the build server 21.54.33 # The Swedes 21.54.44 # lebellium: I looked at scsitool, I just committed something to avoid the "result:" with nothing afterwards 21.54.44 # OHHH CH23 you rebooted with ROLO thats why 21.55.05 # ROLO needs fixed on the FW side as well 21.55.14 Join cc___ [0] (~ac@2001:910:113f:1:6a05:caff:fe1c:1627) 21.55.35 # but yeah it's all working! i'm happy. also i bought another secondhand sansa clip+ for €10 yesterday! 21.55.53 # ROLO is the reboot after replacement part of the system? 21.56.06 # when restarted with ROLO the new firmware gets copied to ram bypassing the boot loader logic 21.56.42 # yep when it asked 'new firmware, restart now?' or whatever the exact phrasing is 21.57.53 # what is the danger for either internal flash, or µSD in terms of write cycles? 21.58.23 # well flash wears out so the same as it always was? 21.58.38 # but the SD is easily replaced 21.58.47 # it's a 200GB card. 21.59.14 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 22.00.15 # there would be so many factors, MTBF, how many back-up sectors, how often you change settings etc. 22.01.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.02.29 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 22.03.24 # that being said it doesn't increase writes over the original Rockbox FW it just redirects them to the media of your choice 22.03.51 # yeah okay, that's cool. 22.05.55 Quit johnb4 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 22.07.12 # Anecdotally, I've been booting from this SD card since FEB with no discernible effect 22.10.10 # pamaury: OK, I'll test it when you upload it 22.10.35 # BTW, there are no builds for A860 and S750 yet, right? 22.13.18 # lebellium: they are builds, but for some reason they are not shown on https://build.rockbox.org/ but they appear on https://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi 22.13.24 # I have absolutely no idea why 22.13.54 # but there is no direct download link? 22.14.45 # you can click on the name 22.15.56 # * pamaury has a flash of genius and knows why 22.16.38 # it's fixed but of course it will only work on the next uild 22.16.41 # and the server is stuck 22.17.19 # https://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-sonynwza860-.zip 22.17.23 # -.zip is strange 22.17.35 # yeah, it was a typo in the builds file 22.18.36 # Bilgus: realistically, when i rebuild, what files are really changed? just rockbox.sansa? 22.19.38 # Generally, Yes 22.24.55 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-187-104.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.26.44 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.33.54 # any ideas on some pair of (key,signature) that could be 30 bytes? Previously Sony used a pair that was 16-bytes, an 8-byte key and an 8-byte signature using DES. But now this 30-byte thing confuses, it's very uncommon 22.34.30 # it's also possible those 30-byte could be just a key, which is also uncommon anyway 22.40.36 # then i can just copy rockbox.sansa over to the .rockbox dir already on the µSD, 99% of the time? 22.42.34 # as long as language files haven't changed and you don't want upgraded plugins then yes 22.44.02 # i only use the solitaire plugin anyways, so this is fine :) 22.44.47 # pamaury: got a French user who will try to steal the red A35 of his daughter for your test :) 22.45.31 # (I wished my son offered me a premium DAP when I was a child!) 22.45.40 # my father* 22.46.00 # haha, I hope he succeeds ;) 22.46.19 # hum 22.46.27 # he only uses Mac OS 22.46.55 # ah, unfortunately scsitool does not support mac os at the moment :-/ 22.47.49 # no luck 22.47.56 # I'll see if there is another user 22.48.13 # for sure there might be on head-fi but I have no account there 22.48.44 # anyone here who could post on the A35 thread on head-fi? 23.01.06 Quit atsampson (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.07.05 Join atsampson [0] (~ats@cartman.offog.org) 23.13.35 Quit Aldem (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.13.37 Quit cc___ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.15.08 Quit thomasjfox (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 23.15.30 Join Aldem [0] (~Aldem@unaffiliated/aldem) 23.16.31 # lebellium: i didn't follow the convo, what can i do for you? i'm a head-fi-er 23.17.32 # CH23: we are looking for someone with a *non-black* NW-A35 to try what is describe in this post: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51792.msg240550.html#msg240550 23.17.42 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 27956 seconds. 23.17.45 # Build Server message: 3Revision 99cc8f8 result: 1 errors 0 warnings 23.17.46 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 5f4de5b, 273 builds, 12 clients. 23.18.08 # lebellium cannot access his head-fi account for some reason, could you post on the NW-A35 topic what I just said? 23.18.16 # oh the build system is live again :) 23.19.51 # It's not that I cannot access my account, it's that I don't have one and don't one to create one just for that :) 23.20.10 # really? I thought you were a head-fi user! 23.20.22 # actually I think I have an account tough I haven't used it in years 23.20.54 # I have been a moderator on anythingbutipod.com for 10 years 23.21.09 # and on ABI we used to kinda hate Head-fi :P 23.21.38 # lol ok, and is ABI dead or it still exists? 23.22.40 # the hoster crowdgather faced an issue with the servers of all their websites in december last year 23.22.55 # some websites like iaudiophile.net (cowon) are completely down 23.23.07 # and others like ABI are in a strange state 23.23.13 # but yes, more or less dead :) 23.23.14 # My head-fi account works actually! Which thread should I post to? 23.23.39 # https://www.head-fi.org/threads/new-sony-nw-a30-series.815843/ 23.24.16 # 128 pages :-o 23.24.53 # what do you need to post in head -fi, I could do it 23.26.02 # ah our saviour :) could you post to the aforementioned mentionning that we are looking for someone with a *non-black* NW-A30 series player to try out the instructions there: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51792.msg240550.html#msg240550 23.26.20 # you can mention that this is to investigate the possibility of changing the color mode 23.26.30 # and that it is harmless 23.27.51 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 605 seconds. 23.27.52 # Build Server message: 3Revision 5f4de5b result: 6 errors 0 warnings 23.28.50 # i'm already writing a post robertd1 23.29.56 # Excellent, please let me know how can I help 23.31.10 # buy a non black nw-A35 :P 23.31.48 # https://www.head-fi.org/threads/new-sony-nw-a30-series.815843/page-128#post-13732749 23.32.02 # CH23 I have actually wondered why the black model is cheaper than the red or green :) 23.32.47 # thanks 23.33.04 # lebellium: the builds now appear on https://build.rockbox.org/ 23.33.50 # * pamaury is confused, builder says 6 errors but build table is green 23.35.14 # * pamaury goes to bed 23.35.19 # Yes 23.35.27 # I think we did enough for today :) 23.35.35 # thanks guys and good night 23.36.23 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 55.0.3/20170824053622]) 23.40.19 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.59.00 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.)