--- Log for 27.10.117 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 26 days and 16 hours ago 00.00.24 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 00.00.47 Quit advcomp2019_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.01.12 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@65-131-179-124.sxct.qwest.net) 00.01.12 Quit advcomp2019_ (Changing host) 00.01.12 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 00.05.58 Join _mt_ [0] (~MT@129.59.122.21) 00.21.19 Quit _mt_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.21.50 Join _mt_ [0] (~MT@129.59.122.21) 00.26.19 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.27.04 Join [Saint] [0] (~sinner@rockbox/staff/saint) 00.35.57 Quit ender` (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.36.56 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.56.05 Quit _mt_ (Remote host closed the connection) 00.56.30 Join _mt_ [0] (~MT@129.59.122.21) 01.10.46 Quit _mt_ (Remote host closed the connection) 01.23.33 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 01.25.59 Join _mt_ [0] (~MT@129.59.122.21) 01.28.38 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 01.30.48 Quit LjL (Quit: You can't break me, for I have no spine) 01.34.11 Join LjL [0] (~ljl@unaffiliated/ljl) 01.43.59 Quit LjL (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01.54.14 Join LjL [0] (~ljl@unaffiliated/ljl) 01.55.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.59.29 Quit LjL (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.00.48 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 02.09.56 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.14.57 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.27.15 Quit Moarc (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.28.10 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 02.29.17 Quit Ruhan (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 02.33.00 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@183.240.196.75) 02.33.59 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 02.34.01 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-190-243.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.36.59 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.37.19 Quit Acou_Bass (Quit: byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee) 02.37.34 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 02.38.04 Join Acou_Bass [0] (~Acou_Bass@host-78-144-150-172.as13285.net) 02.48.06 Join LjL [0] (~ljl@unaffiliated/ljl) 02.48.12 Quit LjL (Remote host closed the connection) 02.49.05 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 02.52.57 Join LjL [0] (~ljl@unaffiliated/ljl) 02.54.27 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 03.03.57 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.10.53 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 03.12.23 # <__builtin> hmm, is there any point in disabling certain sgt-puzzles plugins based on screen size at this point? 03.13.08 # <__builtin> they all *run*, just some of them aren't easily playable on super small screens 03.13.43 # <__builtin> I suppose if you follow that logic, all the game plugins would be gone on small screens... 03.15.40 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.19.13 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-189-63.mcn.bellsouth.net) 03.22.39 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.23.53 Join Ruhan [0] (uid76353@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bbuppgqpgzawrlvz) 03.35.40 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-67-57-191.mcn.bellsouth.net) 03.36.55 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.43.34 Quit JanC (Remote host closed the connection) 03.43.54 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 03.50.17 Join _mt__ [0] (~MT@129.59.122.21) 03.53.03 Quit _mt_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.54.51 Quit _mt__ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.55.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.01.23 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-184-101.mcn.bellsouth.net) 04.02.56 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.05.08 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 04.08.14 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 04.12.40 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.24.41 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 05.04.03 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 05.04.41 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 05.29.19 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 05.55.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.58.44 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 06.04.06 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-184-122.mcn.bellsouth.net) 06.06.16 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.07.37 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.11.29 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.16.37 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 06.17.03 # jhMikeS: this is file system related right? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,52039.msg240833 06.20.01 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.21.21 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 06.22.06 Quit scorche|sh (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.22.40 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@squisch.net) 06.22.40 Quit scorche|sh (Changing host) 06.22.40 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 06.29.21 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.32.42 Join Wine [0] (6801b9aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.1.185.170) 06.42.21 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.43.31 Quit Ruhan (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 06.46.31 # I am running rockbox on a Sansa Clip + that has a 128GB micro SD formatted to FAT32. I uninstalled rockbox, reinstalled original sansa firmware, and then reinstalled rockbox earlier today. I then reformatted the card. I then loaded a lot of music back onto the SD. Things seemed to be going well and I ran into no issues on my windows computer at work but after attempting to add more files from my Mac at home, many files will not play fr 06.48.46 # Sometimes, I will open the folder for the artist and nothing will be in the folder, and other times I will open the artist then album, and will see a track list. Then if i select a track the screen will say (root) and nothing will play. Also worth noting, if I copy the same artist/album folder to the sansa internal drive there are no errors. 06.51.20 Quit scorche|sh (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.51.49 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.54.15 # I went through the uninstall/reinstall because this problem happend in the past and I wanted to correct it 06.55.24 # I will continue to research this issue on my own. Thank you all for the massive amount of work that has been done on rockbox, and also for the massive collection of information on it. I'm sure the solution to my problem is out there somewhere. 06.56.54 # If I have logged off the IRC, please still reply as I will be checking the log later to see what I missed. Also, please let me know if you think my question is better for the forums where I can explain more fully. Thank you. 06.57.46 Join saratoga_ [0] (47e99464@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.233.148.100) 06.58.00 # Wine: first message got cut off at "many files will not play" 07.01.40 # "from the sansa/rockbox." finished off that first message 07.03.15 # is the problem only with the database or does it happen from the file browser too? 07.03.47 # or was this was the file browser and not the database? 07.05.03 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@squisch.net) 07.05.03 Quit scorche|sh (Changing host) 07.05.03 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 07.05.28 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.06.31 # This was via file browser, but I'm pretty sure it would happen through the database as well. Testing now. 07.06.46 # yeah if the file browser has the problem then the database will too 07.07.14 # Okay. Kinda thought so 07.07.21 # if you look at the card on the PC are the files there and playbable? 07.07.42 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 07.07.55 # basically, is the problem that the card isn't being recognized in rockbox, or is it that the files on the card are being corrupted somehow 07.10.02 # i believe the files are being corrupted. I have something like 10GB on the card of music that I successfully added earlier today that does play both on through rockbox and via the PC. The files that don't play on rockbox also do not play if i try to play them from the PC 07.12.57 # is the card fake? 07.13.18 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-183-194.mcn.bellsouth.net) 07.14.54 # Uh, how do you mean fake? It's a SanDisk Ultra 128GB XC I 07.15.43 # dummy card relabeled as a bigger card 07.15.53 # counterfit basically 07.15.59 # counterfeit 07.16.04 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.21.29 # Well, I bought it pretty cheap on ebay a few years back and the seller is no longer on ebay so it's entirely possible. But when I formatted it it said 134GB or something like that. Also when I 'Get Info' on my Mac it says Capacity 134.17 GB 07.21.45 # probably fake 07.21.55 # Any good way to check? 07.22.03 # yeah check google 07.22.19 # there are tools that write to the card then read it back to see if it actually stores data 07.22.40 # usually those fakes are a much smaller card programmed to look like a bigger one 07.24.20 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.24.58 # Okay, thank you very much. This sounds very possible. One thing that makes me think that is the first few albums I coppied when I got home worked fine then in the middle of coppying a 7 disk compilation the first few worked then the remaining did not and nothing after that worked. 07.26.28 # it'll work fine until you exceed however much memory is actually in the card 07.26.32 # if its fake 07.28.31 # Do you think the fact that it's telling me 134.17GB when I look at the drive on my PC but has '128GB' printed on it is suspicious? 07.33.08 # probablly 07.33.59 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.42.37 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFFDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 07.42.38 Quit Wine (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.48.28 Quit saratoga_ (Quit: Page closed) 07.52.20 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.52.52 Quit alexweissman (Remote host closed the connection) 07.53.52 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 07.54.47 # Wine (logs): this here is a perfect tool to test the capacity of the SD: https://www.heise.de/download/product/h2testw-50539 07.55.31 # eventhough the descriptio is in German, I believe the screenshots are kinda self-eplanatory. 07.55.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.57.38 # Delete all content first, as it will only test 'free' space. 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When I try to turn it on, it goes into a boot loop that doesn't go past the Apple logo showing for a couple of seconds. 12.44.06 # I plugged it into a wall socket and I somehow got the iPod to show the empty battery icon without interruption. 12.44.13 # My question is, is it charging right now? 12.44.48 # there's no animation or indication that it is 12.45.20 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-196-231.mcn.bellsouth.net) 12.46.25 # Ah, it is now showing the "ok to disconnect" message 12.46.36 # I guess I'm on the right track. 12.47.08 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.47.22 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFFDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.48.49 # Except there's no battery charging animation and it looks like it's actually draining again. 12.54.50 # OK, got it into disk mode, plugged into a USB port, and I see the battery charging animation now 12.54.56 # fingers crossed 12.56.03 Quit Strife1989 (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 12.57.20 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 12.57.30 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-196-231.mcn.bellsouth.net) 12.58.34 # worst design ever 12.59.56 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@nzf.turmel.info) 12.59.57 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 12.59.57 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 13.03.10 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 13.03.10 # * gevaerts disagrees! 13.03.38 # The worst device I've encountered charging-wise is the nokia n900 13.05.44 Quit Strife89 (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 13.06.40 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 13.08.24 # Ive seen a few android devices that do stupid crap like that as well 13.08.40 # yeah it's a bit of a drag 13.08.57 Quit JanC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.09.14 # it means I will have to keep it on a charging dock if I don't want to go through this again 13.09.18 # well if it gets to dollars to dimes time charge the darn thing externally 13.09.23 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 13.09.23 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.10.27 # just be sure you either watch it very closely or use an lithium ion charging circuit 13.10.31 Quit johnb4 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.10.37 # huh? 13.11.00 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.11.23 # like literally disconnect the battery and charge it with a fixed voltage 3.3v or use an actual lithium ion charger in something else 13.12.00 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-185-75.mcn.bellsouth.net) 13.12.12 # first way watch the voltage levels very closly well no too close protect your eyes second way not too bad 13.12.16 # it's an iPod, they're a bitch to safely open up 13.12.33 # I already destroyed one iPod that way, I'm not doing it again 13.13.41 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-195-213.mcn.bellsouth.net) 13.14.25 # that sucks 13.16.58 # Mini isn't *too* bad 13.17.23 # The thing that tends to bite with minis is that people put CF cards in them and then the buttons stop working 13.17.41 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.17.41 # And the fix to that is to add some cardboard to make up for the missing thickness 13.18.14 # * gevaerts suspects the battery won't be just "completely drained" but "mostly dead". Minis aren't exactly new 13.18.31 # that is engineering there 13.19.01 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-183-215.mcn.bellsouth.net) 13.20.27 # Dunno, I'll consider myself happy if I get an album's worth of autonomy 13.20.48 # That would be a *good* battery! 13.20.52 # lol 13.21.08 # I doubt it was engineered to make the buttons fail if it had a cf card but more like we can make this $0.030 cheaper by using the drive as the backer for the button pad 13.21.48 # the iPod itself is in very good condition 13.22.04 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.27.05 # The main advantage in the mini is that a flash mod is fairly trivial, so I'd definitely recommend that 13.27.22 # And *if* you do that, you'll have it open anyway, so I'd replace the battery as well 13.30.40 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-185-138.mcn.bellsouth.net) 13.31.24 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.33.36 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.37.14 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFFDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.38.08 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-67-57-109.mcn.bellsouth.net) 13.41.20 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 13.52.32 Quit johnb4 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 13.56.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.56.10 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 13.58.16 # iPod Mini is alive. Music still on there, the previous owner had very good taste! 14.00.34 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14.04.09 # Yay! 14.04.48 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.06.47 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.09.23 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.11.09 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFFDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.14.25 # Fuck. I tried to update the firmware, now it's stuck on "plug the ipod into a wall socket charger" 14.14.40 # tried an iPhone charger, an iPad charger, nothing happens 14.15.09 # dunno what tot od 14.15.13 # dunno what to do 14.21.29 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@186-90-22-253.genericrev.cantv.net) 14.22.23 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.24.56 Quit johnb4 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.25.58 # shit 14.26.15 # looks like it will only accept a firewire charger to get past this 14.30.08 # johnb there is new commits up on gerrit to go along with the new storage driver code you might want to update to that the logic changed a bit and might be better batterylife as well 14.30.31 # there are * :\ 14.30.47 # ffs 14.31.40 # where the hell do you find a firewire charger now a days? 14.31.59 # eBay :( 14.32.10 # that means having to wait another week 14.32.15 # this is so lame 14.32.30 # I'd bite the bullet and order a new battery too 14.38.23 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFFDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.56.31 Quit johnb4 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 15.02.44 Part robertd1 15.03.35 # This is so fucked up, I could never have guessed that I would need a firewire cable when the USB cable charges the iPod just fine 15.04.09 # the only kit I can find on eBay costs more than what I paid for the iPod Mini 15.05.23 # why doesn't that surprise me 15.08.50 # IIRC there might be a way to bypass this 15.09.11 # But it's been *years*... 15.09.56 # gevaerts: how? 15.14.50 # oh 15.15.40 # * gevaerts finds indications that this requirement was removed in newer firmware, which would mean that the way to bypass it would be to update the firmware... 15.16.06 # updating the firmware is what got the iPod Mini stuck in this state 15.16.11 # Hmmm, do you have an Apple store nearby? 15.16.32 # Yes, I know 15.16.46 # An official Apple repair shop, called them already, they don't have what I need 15.17.11 # I'm not surprised, this is 2004 tech 15.17.19 # The reason I thought it could be bypassed is that I don't have a firewire charger, and I never got stuck 15.17.38 # But apparently it's possible I just got lucky and had recent enough firmware 15.17.53 # https://web.archive.org/web/20110822024018/www.bearsdriving.com/blog/archives/2005/10/your_ipod_tip_o.html 15.18.26 # rather than doing this though get some paper and cover up the two inner pins and plug it into a decent usb brick 15.19.09 # https://imgur.com/a/4QTv8 15.20.10 # Ah yes, maybe a charge-only cable will work 15.20.29 # Definitely worth a try 15.21.08 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.242.176.168) 15.23.17 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFFDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.30.27 # doesn't seem to work 15.30.47 Quit robertd1 (Quit: Leaving.) 15.32.28 # I know power is going through because the iPod reboots when I plug it in 15.32.41 # with a piece of cardboard over the two center pins 15.34.06 # you are using a good beefy power supply right? 15.34.55 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15.35.00 # like a 1.5 - 2.0 A plug in brick? 15.35.25 # 5.1 V, 2.1 A 15.35.44 # Apple 10W USB adapter 15.36.18 # hmm that sucks maybe leave it plugged like that for a while and retry 15.38.19 # I wonder if the apple version needs negoiation to put out the full wattage maybe try a no name one or at least non apple 15.41.17 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.242.176.168) 15.41.55 # were there differences between the 1st and 2nd gen Mini wrt firewire? 15.42.35 # dunno but the battery life was doubled on the 2nd gen 15.43.56 # this is so aggravating 15.44.12 # I shouldn't have updated it 15.45.24 # copper: where are you located, in case some fellow rockboxer could and would like to help out? 15.45.49 # Perpignan, France 15.46.01 # Hey whomever is in charge of the website the manual download for 3.14 is not complete/corrupted Obvoiusly I used the manual installation. I tried then to manually install the v.3.14 but the zip file dowloaded from the releases archive, http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.14/sansaclipzip-3.14-english.zip, strangely contains only a 'lang' directory, no other. 15.46.03 # south of france 15.47.02 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,52039.msg240840.html#msg240840 15.48.27 # That's not the release 15.48.35 # That's a voice pack 15.49.03 # yeah I just realized that lol 15.53.20 Quit robertd1 (Quit: Leaving.) 15.54.40 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-189-64.mcn.bellsouth.net) 15.56.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.56.57 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 15.58.43 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.242.176.168) 15.59.20 # Is there no way to force the iPod into another mode? 16.01.35 Quit alexweissman (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16.02.04 # hmm, maybe try to get hold of lebellium. I could imagine that he has an Ipod firewire cable in his collection, I just don't know which region of France he lives in currently. 16.03.44 # I can't remember seeing an iPod in his collection 16.04.26 # maybe you're right... I started to question this myself now 16.04.50 # That means that *if* he has an ipod firewire charger, he'd want to get rid of it! 16.05.28 # or just lend it to me 16.05.38 # what about TheSeven? 16.05.55 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 16.07.26 Quit johnb4 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.09.39 # https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/8496/iPod+only+shows+power+adapter+being+plugged+in+to+wall+outlet 16.09.53 # I don't get it, this guy says it worked fine with a USB charger 16.11.12 # https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/8496/iPod+only+shows+power+adapter+being+plugged+in+to+wall+outlet#answer234547 16.11.15 # hmmm 16.11.50 # according to THAT guy, it's the voltage that's too low 16.13.44 # All my adapters deliver 5V, and the mini would need 12V 16.13.57 # I wonder if I can buy such an adapter easily? 16.14.29 # Careful there 16.14.40 # You'd need 12V, but not on the same pins! 16.15.50 # Which basically means an ipod firewire cable+charger 16.17.22 # I don't understand? 16.19.19 # The ipod connector has 5V pins and 12V pins. They aren't the same 16.19.36 # the 30 pin connector on the iPod's end? 16.19.39 # Yes 16.19.48 # man putting too much voltage sound scary, I think he's saying firewire puts out 12v on diggerent pins 16.20.01 # ff* 16.23.04 Join lebellium_z3c [0] (~AndChat73@109.190.253.13) 16.23.39 # Hello guys. I do have iPods in my collection but unfortunately not the old firewire ones :( 16.24.03 # :( 16.25.19 Join alexweissman [0] (~alexweiss@c-68-50-12-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 16.27.10 Quit lebellium_z3c (Client Quit) 16.29.35 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip5b4323b4.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 16.36.39 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~textual@145.132.155.235) 16.36.59 Quit robertd1 (Remote host closed the connection) 16.40.51 Quit deevious (Quit: deevious) 16.52.39 # I'm screwed then. 16.58.24 Quit PimpiN8 (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) 16.58.55 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~textual@145.132.155.235) 17.04.18 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFFDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.08.22 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@24.152.198.8.res-cmts.eph2.ptd.net) 17.10.24 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17.13.21 # I think amiconn has such a cable/charger. I'm not sure when he's got the time to take care about such a request (and if he wants to) and what shipping costs from Germany would be. 17.17.39 Quit johnb4 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.17.49 Join robertd1 [0] (~root@201.242.176.168) 17.19.52 Quit PimpiN8 (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) 17.20.26 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~textual@145.132.155.235) 17.31.26 Quit PimpiN8 (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) 17.48.16 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~textual@145.132.155.235) 17.54.56 Join Ruhan [0] (uid76353@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aawfyabybdkzirtn) 17.56.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.58.03 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.58.27 # obviously I would pay for shipping 18.03.10 # ugh 18.03.22 # I managed to put the iPod into diagnostics mode 18.03.36 # is there any way I can salvage something from there? 18.06.58 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@116.117.135.239) 18.09.43 # Damn it. Selecting "disk mode" just reboots the thing, which goes straight to the dreaded wall adapter icon. 18.13.09 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFFDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.26.11 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 18.33.50 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.37.26 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.46.41 Quit Acou_Bass (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.47.22 Join Acou_Bass [0] (~Acou_Bass@host-89-242-221-129.as13285.net) 18.50.38 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18.56.00 # The low voltages on the AMS players sure do seem to cause an awful lot of problems any one know what kind of runtime increases it provides? 18.56.48 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@116.117.135.239) 19.01.39 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 19.38.35 # Bilgus: Saving was quite significant. Mihail mainly drove the freq. and voltage scaling, I ran lots of benchmarks, as I used to have v1 & V2 Fuzes and clip+ variants. 19.39.30 # some of it is recorded in http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51616.0.html 19.46.42 # I guess we start raising it when people have issues but some of this is probably leading to drive corruption when it crashes at that exact wrong time 19.47.50 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19.49.47 # I thought of a persistent setting in debug, to bump up the voltage for those devices that seem to be more flimsy, keep the lower ones as default. Or the other way round. 19.50.33 # yeah I thought of the same thing but I kinda circled back around to if the margin is that close all devices should probably be running it 19.50.40 # I had no problems with the lowest values that got pushed. 19.53.03 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 19.54.16 # I think a better idea would be to have it disabled by default or at a higher level and allow the user to lower it 19.54.24 Join dys [0] (~dys@tmo-113-68.customers.d1-online.com) 19.54.39 # but I too have had no problems on clip+ or zip 19.54.48 # That sure is the conservative approach ;-) 19.55.06 # Maybe we get Mihail to comment ... 19.55.17 # needs to be conservative where users are concerned 19.56.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.56.28 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 20.01.30 # might even make it a yes or no deal, battery saving yes/no which we know it'll always have a lower bound during unboosted state but bring it up a few points from the very bottom if it isn't enabled 20.02.52 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@116.117.135.239) 20.03.38 # johnb4, speaking of jHMikeS pushed some new driver code and I updated that sd code accordingly its also changed a bit in the process 20.07.26 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.07.47 # gevaerts: How bad does the backlight drain the battery? I've left the mini in diagnostics mode with the backlight continuously on for over an hour now, and it's still on 20.11.52 # the battery wasn't even full 20.21.01 Quit krabador (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.22.10 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 20.24.48 Quit robertd1 (Remote host closed the connection) 20.27.45 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@116.117.135.239) 20.29.10 # Bilgus: yes, I have seen your notice, not updated yet though. So far I had no problems even when stress testing, only copying data seems to be a little slower (also deleting a directory in the file browser), which doesn't really bother me. 20.30.06 # thats just the lower clock of the internal memory though it should be pretty much the same as a non-highspeed SD card 20.30.16 # I thought of applying the i2c patch, so I have a reference for the benchmark, before updating to the latest patches. 20.31.16 # probably a good idea but i'd do each individually like remove the sd ones and do just the I2c one 20.32.03 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.32.15 # Does g#1705 also need to be rebased with jHMikeS' push? 20.32.17 # 3Gerrit review #1705 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1705 : 3AS3525v1 Lower unboosted I2C frequency by William Wilgus 20.33.15 # no 20.33.47 # ok, then will try this one. 20.35.16 # let me know if you have issues with it like you might try listening to a song or two and browse some menus at the same time and we can raise the frequency a bit but I think I2c is pretty forgiving 20.35.52 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~Thunderbi@116.117.135.239) 20.37.08 Join johnb3 [0] (~johnb2@p5B3AFFDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.40.25 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.43.13 Quit PimpiN8 (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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