--- Log for 19.04.118 Server: barjavel.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 25 days ago 00.09.39 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 00.10.14 Quit dandels (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.14.51 # saratoga: I'm not even aware of one. 00.22.49 Join dandels [0] (~dandels@unaffiliated/dandels) 00.38.54 Quit ender (Quit: Money is the root of all evil, and man needs roots.) 00.40.32 Quit dandels (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 00.45.56 Quit lebellium (Quit: Leaving) 00.56.35 Quit this_is_a_nick (Remote host closed the connection) 01.06.01 Quit noobineer (Remote host closed the connection) 01.08.55 Join paulk-gagarine-s [0] (~paulk-gag@220.107.128.77.rev.sfr.net) 01.09.26 Quit paulk-gagarine (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.18.10 Quit JanC (Remote host closed the connection) 01.18.30 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 01.20.23 Quit ranmachan (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.20.32 Join ranmachan [0] (~ranma@yumi.uguu.de) 01.49.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.14.04 Quit MrZeus (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.29.40 # Yet another article states it as a hybrid of 8, 16 and 32 bits... 02.29.44 # ...I can certainly see why. 02.32.30 # <__builtin> what's the address size? 03.01.16 Join CrashBash-Kun [0] (~CrashBash@unaffiliated/crashbash-kun) 03.05.02 Quit namedpipe (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03.12.51 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 03.22.19 Quit CrashBash-Kun (Quit: Leaving) 03.24.32 Join namedpipe [0] (~namedpipe@2002:c3b5:f6dc::1) 03.33.20 Join amiconn_ [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.33.21 Nick amiconn is now known as Guest63423 (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.33.21 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.33.54 Join pixelma_ [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.33.55 Nick pixelma is now known as Guest55118 (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.33.55 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.34.34 Quit Guest63423 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 03.34.34 Quit Guest55118 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 03.41.57 Join noobineer [0] (~noobineer@c-68-55-184-193.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 03.49.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.15.50 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.16.28 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.34.35 Join this_is_a_nick [0] (~amofiuhr_@ip187-132-50-179.ct.co.cr) 04.37.59 Join akaSM [0] (bbbc43da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.188.67.218) 04.46.23 Quit noobineer (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.59.03 Quit akaSM (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.10.36 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip5b432207.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 05.29.19 Quit this_is_a_nick (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 05.29.41 Join this_is_a_nick [0] (~amofiuhr_@ip187-132-50-179.ct.co.cr) 05.49.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.07.55 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06.31.04 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 07.49.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.52.57 Quit Senji (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 08.03.57 Quit paulk-gagarine-s (Quit: Leaving) 08.04.12 Join paulk-gagarine [0] (~paulk-gag@220.107.128.77.rev.sfr.net) 08.11.31 Quit this_is_a_nick (Remote host closed the connection) 08.34.47 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 08.34.54 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.43.17 Join this_is_a_nick [0] (~amofiuhr_@ip207-155-64-186.ct.co.cr) 08.54.43 Quit CheetahPixie (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.49.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.41.16 Quit jonathant (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 10.52.13 Join dandels [0] (~dandels@unaffiliated/dandels) 10.56.20 Join jonathant [0] (~quassel@2601:400:8180:f6d:8d08:8831:d8bf:9f75) 11.23.53 Quit dandels (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.25.34 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 11.29.11 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.30.06 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.36.00 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11.49.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.48.18 Join dandels [0] (~dandels@unaffiliated/dandels) 12.54.56 Join akaSM [0] (bbbc43da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.188.67.218) 13.11.27 Join noobineer [0] (~noobineer@c-68-55-184-193.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 13.21.56 Quit dandels (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13.33.43 Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@ool-18e4e27c.dyn.optonline.net) 13.50.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.51.04 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.56.23 Join deevious_ [0] (~Thunderbi@193.226.142.214) 13.59.44 Quit deevious (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 13.59.44 Nick deevious_ is now known as deevious (~Thunderbi@193.226.142.214) 14.17.17 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@107-1-97-172-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 14.37.31 Quit massiveH (Quit: Leaving) 14.37.43 Quit akaSM (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.39.36 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 14.43.07 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.56.28 Quit alucryd (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 15.01.13 Join alucryd [0] (~quassel@archlinux/developer/alucryd) 15.29.46 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 15.50.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.19.27 Join Strife1989 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-80-188-58.mcn.bellsouth.net) 16.22.52 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.25.23 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 16.48.03 Join Senji [0] (~Senji@87.118.138.79) 17.02.30 Quit this_is_a_nick (Remote host closed the connection) 17.29.43 Join dandels [0] (~dandels@unaffiliated/dandels) 17.50.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.56.09 Join CheetahPixie [0] (55dc24c4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.220.36.196) 17.56.23 # __builtin: 24 bits I think. 8mb Harvard segments. 17.56.33 # I also found an alternate boot mode for it. 17.56.36 # Hold vol and plug in 17.56.47 # 10d6:10d6 Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd 17.57.12 # Not logged on the USB devices list. 17.59.31 # CheetahPixie: I haven't followed the entire discussion but the minimum requirement for rockbox to run is at least a 32-bit architecture 18.00.18 # and probably a reasonable gcc port to this architecture 18.01.18 # It does some 32 bit instructions 18.01.27 # It is described as some odd combination of 8, 16 and 32 bits. 18.06.07 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.18.36 # https://pastebin.com/ZbwfbX4h 18.20.07 Quit dandels (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.43.36 Quit noobineer (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 18.53.07 Join dandels [0] (~dandels@unaffiliated/dandels) 19.04.09 # https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375113703823114251/436572530703335444/unknown.png Some continuing progress. 19.11.32 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.13.27 # And I think I have a dump. 19.13.35 # ...64 megabytes is not what I expected, but okay. 19.17.10 Join MrZeus [0] (~MrZeus@2a02:c7f:7066:fb00:a52b:a103:db1:2d43) 19.24.36 Quit deevious (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.25.01 Join deevious [0] (~Thunderbi@193.226.142.214) 19.28.46 Join dys [0] (~dys@2a01:598:a80b:7ec7:226:5eff:fee9:68d2) 19.50.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.56.37 Quit michaelni (Quit: Leaving) 19.57.12 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 20.01.23 # I have access to the flash; just made my first hex mod of the firmware. 20.01.33 # Made one character uppercase; I can write code to the device. 20.07.37 Join this_is_a_nick [0] (~amofiuhr_@200.9.43.192) 20.17.38 # 25 minutes and 5 hours post purchase. 20.18.38 # ...I should post the results on Tumblr or something. 20.31.47 Join sylsau [0] (4d84784d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.132.120.77) 20.33.35 Quit dandels (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.33.39 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@ip1f12fa21.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 20.52.47 Quit sylsau (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.17.44 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 21.18.49 Join dys [0] (~dys@2a01:598:a80b:7ec7:226:5eff:fee9:68d2) 21.19.31 Quit Huntereb (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.20.58 Join Huntereb [0] (~Huntereb@d-69-161-107-97.cpe.metrocast.net) 21.22.01 Quit Huntereb (Client Quit) 21.23.19 Join Huntereb [0] (~Huntereb@d-69-161-107-97.cpe.metrocast.net) 21.34.23 Quit Huntereb (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.38.54 Join Huntereb [0] (~Huntereb@d-69-161-107-97.cpe.metrocast.net) 21.41.59 Quit Huntereb (Client Quit) 21.42.49 Quit irl (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.43.03 Join Huntereb [0] (~Huntereb@d-69-161-107-97.cpe.metrocast.net) 21.43.10 Join irl [0] (~irl@shiftout.plus.com) 21.50.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.50.22 Join lebellium [0] (~hexchat@89-93-177-206.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 21.52.00 Quit yosafbridge (Quit: Leaving) 21.52.09 Join amiconn_ [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.52.10 Nick amiconn is now known as Guest51816 (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.52.10 Quit Guest51816 (Killed (wolfe.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) 21.52.10 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.52.34 Join pixelma_ [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 21.52.35 Nick pixelma is now known as Guest35785 (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 21.52.35 Quit Guest35785 (Killed (wolfe.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) 21.52.35 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 21.56.52 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@68.ip-149-56-14.net) 21.58.24 Quit ZincAlloy (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22.05.09 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.11.25 Join alaem [0] (~alaem@gateway/tor-sasl/alaem) 22.17.27 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:8b80:1700:49f:d906:2b6b:efd3) 22.33.25 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 22.49.27 Join suYin [0] (~suYin@ip5b431447.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 22.49.29 Quit suYin (Remote host closed the connection) 22.49.52 Join Saratoga_ [0] (ac3823a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.172.56.35.167) 22.52.32 Join suYin [0] (~suYin@ip5b431447.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 22.52.32 Quit suYin (Remote host closed the connection) 22.56.27 Quit Saratoga_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.00.12 Join dandels [0] (~dandels@unaffiliated/dandels) 23.00.20 # CheetahPixie: that sounds like its not going to work for rockbox, have you looked at the documentation for the ISA? 23.00.33 # you should probably do that before you waste any more time on hardware that won't work 23.04.08 Quit lebellium (Quit: Leaving) 23.15.19 Quit namedpipe (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.16.34 Join namedpipe [0] (~namedpipe@99b5.k.time4vps.cloud) 23.20.03 Quit utrack (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.22.06 Join utrack [0] (~utrack@unaffiliated/utrack) 23.24.32 # saratoga: I do not have that on hand. I however have friends who could help me reverse it. 23.24.50 # The specification does however say that there are 32 bit instructions here. 23.25.40 # pretty sure its on google 23.25.49 # what was it again? 23.26.01 # Flip80251. 23.26.15 # Tried, didn't find a reference. 23.26.57 # CheetahPixie: http://www.keil.com/dd/chip/3644.htm 23.27.47 # theres a link to the ISA reference 23.28.00 # however, if they only have 32 bit instructions, that is probably going to be an issue 23.28.22 # 8, 16 and 32 bit instructions. 23.28.28 # most of the codecs at least assume there is some support for working with 64 bit data types 23.28.33 # since 32 bit CPUs generally have those 23.29.06 # if this is a 16 bit microcontroller with larger address space support and some 32 bit ALU instructions, you probably aren't going to be decoding audio with it, at least not with our codecs 23.29.49 # i only skimmed that document when you asked last night though, so if you really really want to spend time on this, double check what it is 23.32.35 # I wouldn't say that codecs in general require 64, since the ones already on this work just fine. 23.32.38 # Also supports FLAC. 23.33.04 # if you write a codec for a 16 bit CPU, and that CPU is fast enough, sure 23.33.28 # 80 MHz and single-instruction almost everything should be ample enough power. 23.33.43 # if you want to write a 16 bit firmware and codecs, you're welcome to do that, but it won't be rockbox 23.34.16 # Considering it has 32 bit instructions as well, I'm probably gonna see how much actually fits. 23.34.20 # (well maybe you could adapt some of our lossy codecs, since they can probably work without 64 bit types) 23.34.38 # What about FLAC and it working on this device? 23.34.47 # sorry lossless codecs 23.34.54 # And lossy? 23.35.29 # check and see what the hardware can do 23.35.32 Quit this_is_a_nick (Remote host closed the connection) 23.35.46 # Wait. 23.35.48 # It has an audio DSP. 23.35.59 # (Also hardware JPEG decode.) 23.36.32 # that would make sense, since the CPU would struggle 23.40.15 # Which would free it up to run the UI. 23.40.43 # I think with the 32 bit stuff it *does* have that this may just be possible. 23.41.49 Join paulk-gagarine-s [0] (~paulk-gag@220.107.128.77.rev.sfr.net) 23.43.17 # the dsp makes it much less likely to be possible 23.43.43 # you need to find a different device 23.44.43 Quit paulk-gagarine (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.48.58 # <__builtin> CheetahPixie: I don't doubt that it's possible to run some sort of custom firmware on it, but it will look nothing like rockbox 23.50.00 Quit Acou_Bass (Quit: byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee) 23.50.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.51.22 Join Acou_Bass [0] (~Acou_Bass@host-89-241-241-230.as13285.net) 23.53.26 Quit dandels (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 23.54.48 Quit ender` (Quit: The moment a person forms a theory, his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory. — Thomas Jefferson)