--- Log for 20.04.118 Server: barjavel.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 26 days ago 00.00.56 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.02.03 # Why does the DSP make it less likely? 00.02.07 # Does Rockbox not support them? 00.02.19 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 00.04.53 # <__builtin> We actually do support them 00.05.06 # <__builtin> To an extent (the HWCODEC devices) 00.05.50 # <__builtin> but they've largely been relegated to history at this point 00.07.05 # Cue drivers. 00.07.22 # (I actually already have a driver for it in the firmware, nicely segmented out because it seems to have a file system.) 00.11.20 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 00.44.55 Quit irl (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.48.55 Join irl [0] (~irl@shiftout.plus.com) 01.06.51 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 01.16.54 Quit atsampson (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.21.07 # So, to condense everything I learned, I actually ticked down a Tumblr post: https://phreakpixie.tumblr.com/post/173109118504/first-post-not-my-first-shakedown 01.21.13 # For extra details and pictures, too. 01.26.17 Quit Eli2_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.39.02 Join Eli2 [0] (~Eli2@pdpc/supporter/professional/eli2) 01.50.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.12.44 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.18.30 Quit quaz0r (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.21.25 Join quaz0r [0] (~quaz@c-24-18-93-195.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 02.34.21 Quit MrZeus (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.41.41 Quit alaem (Quit: Lost terminal) 03.01.27 # * __builtin tries to cut some size off of Solo 03.07.34 # <__builtin> hmm, out of curiosity, has anyone tried running duke3d on a c200v2? 03.07.51 # <__builtin> I'd be interested to see if it even runs 03.09.38 Join saratoga_ [0] (123e1579@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.21.121) 03.10.03 # CheetahPixie: that blog shows an AK2117, which is an old actions semiconductor part from ten years back 03.10.22 # it has only a few hundred KB of memory and a simple microcontroller for the CPU 03.10.35 # you won't be able to do anything interesting with it, the device is barely programmable 03.12.13 # Uh. 03.12.20 # I dumped 64mb of flash from that very device. 03.12.29 # (Which also has the Flip80251 in question, see datasheet.) 03.13.04 # <__builtin> CheetahPixie: that's presumably not the same memory saratoga_ is referencing 03.13.09 # <__builtin> flash != ram 03.13.14 # Yes. I know. 03.13.29 # That flash is *inside* the chip. The full 4 gigabytes of the other chip are exposed. 03.14.24 # And it *does* have 16 megaytes for RAM. 03.16.36 # that CPU has 64KB of data memory and 28 KB of program memory 03.16.48 # it has 16MB of address space, but most of it is not used for memory 03.16.54 Join dandels [0] (~dandels@unaffiliated/dandels) 03.17.55 Join amiconn_ [0] (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.17.55 Quit amiconn (Killed (kornbluth.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) 03.17.55 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.17.57 # that CPU doesn't even support DRAM, so you won't have more than kilobytes anyway 03.18.44 Join pixelma_ [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.18.44 Quit pixelma (Killed (kornbluth.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) 03.18.44 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.19.33 # <__builtin> is there a C compiler targeting this ISA? 03.20.19 # There's a C compiler in the development kit. 03.20.37 # <__builtin> open-source? 03.20.52 # Not sure, but I'd work with it and reimplement according to ability. 03.21.30 # <__builtin> from the datasheet it should be binary compatible with the 8051 03.22.52 # <__builtin> as far as open-source compilers, you could probably go with SDCC 03.23.37 # Mayybe. 03.23.44 # But I want to use the full set. 03.24.06 # Considering what I have on hand, and the address space, the already-allocated chunks are only a couple hundred kilobytes at best. 03.24.24 # did you check the datasheet? 03.24.35 # I did, staring at the memory map right now. 03.24.49 # Around 70k on the program RAM are reserved. 03.25.46 # ? 03.26.07 # <__builtin> you might be stuck with either their proprietary (?) compiler or rolling your own 03.26.22 # Gonna roll my own for sure. 03.26.27 # Which is why I wanted an ISA ref. 03.26.58 # <__builtin> have you figured out code execution yet? 03.28.22 # It has a flash mode, and programs that can flash to it. 03.28.41 # I've already made a modification of the firmware on board. 03.29.01 # <__builtin> ok 03.29.48 # <__builtin> can you run code, though? or just modify some strings? 03.31.19 # I have all the code in front of me in the dump. 03.31.27 # So yes, I can modify, and run, this code. 03.31.40 # <__builtin> I see, nice :) 03.34.55 # Just have to figure out dumping RAM for fucks and fun. 03.35.37 # (And this odd device 106D.) 03.36.12 Quit prg318 (Quit: ZNC 1.6.6 - http://znc.in) 03.37.23 Join prg318 [0] (~prg@deadcodersociety/prg318) 03.37.34 # One of its biggest crimes is its horrendous UI. 03.37.49 # You have to stop music to get to videos. 03.37.57 # You have to stop listening to go do anything else. 03.38.21 # <__builtin> I can't seem to find an instruction set reference for the 80C251 03.38.30 # <__builtin> but 80C51 docs are everywhere 03.42.54 # __builtin: http://ee6115.mit.edu/document/8051.pdf 03.43.11 # 80C51 == 8051 built on C(mos) 03.43.26 # its old enough that they had non-cmos variants :) 03.43.40 # <__builtin> not the 80*2*51 though 03.43.56 # it is a higher clocked version 03.43.57 # same ISA 03.44.05 # <__builtin> ah, I see 03.44.32 # actually maybe not 03.44.55 # oh i see, it is a superset of 8051 03.46.15 # <__builtin> here we go: http://www.keil.com/dd/docs/datashts/intel/8xc251sx_um.pdf 03.47.10 # http://www.cs.unc.edu/~vicci/comp261/project/mcu/80251_prog_man.pdf 03.47.18 # ch 5 explains the new instructions 03.50.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.57.21 Quit dandels (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 04.05.38 # "High-end 8-bit and 16-bit applications" and then a picture of a cellphone :) 04.05.53 # i guess 20 years ago you could have a highend 8 bit cell phone 04.11.38 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.30.27 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 05.05.30 Join SM_ [0] (bbbc43da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.188.67.218) 05.09.31 Join this_is_a_nick [0] (~amofiuhr_@ip207-155-64-186.ct.co.cr) 05.49.10 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 05.50.19 Join benedikt93 [0] (~quassel@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 05.50.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.03.04 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 06.11.37 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 06.11.52 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@unaffiliated/n17ikh) 06.30.50 Quit saratoga_ (Quit: Page closed) 06.52.32 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@65-131-167-208.sxct.qwest.net) 06.52.32 Quit advcomp2019 (Changing host) 06.52.32 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 06.55.59 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07.26.56 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 07.32.09 Quit SM_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.40.33 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 07.41.18 Join alce [0] (53f5e1df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.245.225.223) 07.42.28 # CheetahPixie: have you looked at smart watches? 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