--- Log for 22.10.118 Server: barjavel.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 7 hours ago 00.00.39 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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ZZZzzz…) 16.01.41 Join englishm [0] (~englishm@unaffiliated/englishm) 16.02.07 Quit englishm (Client Quit) 16.36.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.03.10 Join speachy [0] (d98c6f87@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.140.111.135) 17.06.51 # who should I ping about some patches to chessbox? 17.08.10 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 17.08.38 # looking to continue merging the lower-hanging fruit in Poretsky's tree, and there's a set of improvements to chessbox in there. (full speech, game saving/replaying..) 17.10.22 # I suspect chessbox doesn't have anyone who counts as an active maintainer these days 17.10.57 # Maybe __builtin cares, as someone who tends to do plugins? 17.10.58 # there's a ton of speech-related enhancements in his tree. 17.11.13 # probably the single main thing he cares about 17.13.26 # OTOH, the chessbox patches depend on other that enhance the plugin API to better support speech. I expect that that willl warrant proper/wider review. 17.17.10 Quit this_is_a_nick (Remote host closed the connection) 17.23.04 # any thoughts on #1943? 17.23.47 Quit deevious (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.24.00 # for audiobook folks, this is a boon. for everyone else, it's potentially annoying. 17.32.19 Quit petur (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 17.55.58 # <_Bilgus> I'm not sure how I feel about doing that I think I'd rather see it stored in the bookmark rather than systemwide 17.59.52 Join deevious [0] (~Thunderbi@193.226.142.214) 17.59.52 # <_Bilgus> speachy, I fixed a bug in chessbox dealing with Gamelist overflow and a pgn parsing error so make sure you don't reintroduce the bugs with changes 18.01.11 Join vmx [0] (~vmx@2a02:810d:300:1ce8:4685:ff:fe9b:6630) 18.12.26 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.36.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.37.33 Join lolflac [0] (56a72152@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.167.33.82) 18.39.42 Quit lolflac (Client Quit) 18.47.24 Join lolflac [0] (56a72152@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.167.33.82) 18.52.44 # So I've found some reproducible crashing FLACs on latest stable build on iPod 5.5 80GB. After I've checked they're not corrupt and work on other players, what steps should I take to try and debug this? I'm happy to try and fix this myself as a little project. Thanks. 18.52.58 # When I say crash, they skip to the next song at a certain part of the track. 18.55.51 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.01.51 # pamaury - are you able to help me with some newbie questions about debugging? 19.03.54 # lolflac: hi, maybe, I'm not so active in the project at the moment but I can try 19.04.44 # Thanks. Essentially I have some FLACs that skip to the next track consistently at the same point in the song. I've yet to check they rsynced fine and other players handle them, but if that's okay, how should I proceed to debug it? Thanks again. 19.05.44 # _Bilgus, I'll need to untangle some of the speech related patches before the chessbox stuff could go in. Or start at the beginnig of the overall series rather than bits out of the middle. :) 19.06.36 # lolflac: hmmm, unfortunately I know next to nothing about the codecs :-/ saratoga is the codec expert, maybe _Bilgus can help? 19.07.07 # Thanks anyway :) I'll wait for any of them to respond. 19.07.41 # lolflac, it does seem prudent to make sure the files aren't corrupt first. 19.07.46 # <_Bilgus> chessbox is a mess to say the least but a quick glance it looks like there is nothing untoward but I wonder if pgn saves are actually fully fixed 19.08.10 # not saying the rb flac code isn't buggy, mind you.. 19.08.13 # speachy: I will do ASAP, just looking for info on how to proceed when I get a chance to 19.08.28 # Is the FLAC a new implementation, or ported from the reference? 19.08.42 # ported from the reference , albeit some time ago 19.08.57 # <_Bilgus> when you say the play fine on other players do you mean other players with rockbox? 19.09.07 # so it's likely there are bugfixes that aren't in the rb tree. 19.09.37 # _Bilgus: other players generally 19.09.59 # Plays fine on Android 19.10.01 # it could also be something that requires more runtime resources to decode than rb can handle. 19.10.21 # Any indication given if it is out of resources that I'd be able to see? 19.10.32 # * speachy has some largeish mp4 files that cause rb to choke. 19.11.32 # <_Bilgus> or the ipod corrupting them .. lolflac do you have any non-copyrighted songs that exibit the behavior that you could upload somewhere? 19.11.44 # <_Bilgus> exhibit* 19.11.52 # Only found it on two copyrighted songs sofar 19.12.01 # From the same album, interestingly enough 19.12.06 # Perhaps a newer encoder from BC? 19.12.08 # As in 19.12.13 # Newer version of FLAC encoder 19.12.52 # <_Bilgus> I'd look at album art first 19.13.16 # Other tracks from same album are fine 19.13.19 # rb's flac decoder is a snapshot from ffmpeg back in 2005 19.13.34 # and "heavily modified" 19.13.57 # As an aside, is there a chance of porting ffmpeg to do all media processing in rb? 19.14.28 # chance, yes. likely, nope. :) 19.14.48 # <_Bilgus> not without a whole lot of work 19.14.56 # ffmpeg isn't targeting the sorts of resource-constrained devices that rb runs on. 19.20.03 # False alarm. MD5s don't match, so corrupt I guess 19.20.11 # I thought rsync checked that 19.23.53 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~textual@ip56535846.direct-adsl.nl) 19.24.19 # Nope, seems I need to resync with the -c option 19.24.26 # Thanks for your help, everyone 19.24.29 Part lolflac 19.25.04 # <_Bilgus> anytime, eventually :p 19.25.10 # heh 19.27.37 Join lebellium [0] (~lebellium@89-92-69-7.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.30.25 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:9440:dfc:a90b:28ed:2de:6876) 20.15.35 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 20.26.27 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 20.26.59 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 20.36.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.51.21 Quit rogeliodh (*.net *.split) 20.51.37 Join rogeliodh [0] (~rogeliodh@ec2-52-90-241-120.compute-1.amazonaws.com) 21.10.52 Join this_is_a_nick [0] (~amofiuhr_@201.206.191.16) 21.27.30 Quit PimpiN8 (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I'm playing writing a plugin for rockbox to track my calorie intake etc. I'd really like to not have to startup the device (iPod Nano 2G), so I disabled the shutdown timer stuff. That works but the battery usage is a little high. I do want to update the screen regularly while the screen is on though so I settled on: 23.25.27 # rb->button_get_w_tmo(rb->is_backlight_on(false)?10:500000); 23.25.56 # Can I reduce battery usage more than that? It feels (although I haven't really measured it) like if I leave it idling in the main menu then I use less battery 23.28.00 # Also just want to say that this project is amazing! I showed a few people at work what I was working on and they're like "a fun weekend getting your old iPod to run stuff eh?" and I'm like "no man, took me like 3 hours from scratch because this rockbox project is amazing. No difficulty getting it to build, easy to understand how to write a plugin, just worked, A++++" :-) 23.58.06 Quit Corun (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)