--- Log for 26.11.118 Server: barjavel.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 20 days ago 00.13.46 Join Boltermor [0] (~Boltermor@public-gprs392241.centertel.pl) 00.14.30 Join reductum [0] (~weechat@cpe-104-32-77-28.socal.res.rr.com) 00.29.15 Quit lebellium (Quit: Leaving) 00.37.46 Join foolsh [0] (~quassel@c-73-110-87-188.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.47.07 Quit foolsh (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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10.52.22 # 'possible' as without a lot of reverse engineering 10.53.21 # and are the chances of bricking a device by doing this higher, than by normal dualbooting? 11.06.36 # actually the reason i'm asking is because I keep booting into the normal ipod firmware and all i want is it to boot in rockbox when i hit 'select', and disk mode when i hit any other button 11.12.16 Join vmx [0] (~vmx@2a02:810d:300:1ce8:4685:ff:fe9b:6630) 11.16.56 Nick bremner` is now known as bremner (~bremner@debian/developer/bremner) 11.54.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.10.18 Nick Marex_ is now known as Marex (~Marex@195.140.253.167) 12.32.12 Quit tripp4h (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.55.37 Quit Moarc (Quit: i znowu NADMUCHAŁ BALONA) 12.56.45 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 13.01.07 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 13.45.19 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 13.54.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.01.48 Join massa_ [0] (059e89a9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.158.137.169) 14.15.26 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@wced-45-217-32-147.feld.cvut.cz) 14.39.07 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 15.05.43 Quit massiveH (Quit: Leaving) 15.28.47 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.32.47 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@wced-45-217-32-147.feld.cvut.cz) 15.34.44 Nick massa_ is now known as Massa (059e89a9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.158.137.169) 15.34.58 Nick Massa is now known as Massa_ (059e89a9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.158.137.169) 15.35.17 Nick Massa_ is now known as massa (059e89a9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.158.137.169) 15.36.27 # Is there an official way to create an (publicly accessible) branch of the current rockbox master? 15.37.07 # (for development of a new port) 15.51.06 Quit this_is_a_nick (Remote host closed the connection) 15.54.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.38.02 Quit petur (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 17.47.35 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.54.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.55.52 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.03.23 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:9440:dfc:386a:6676:b118:8537) 18.39.15 Quit massa () 18.42.40 Join danielp3344 [0] (danielp334@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-aahdopaysqkxnmor) 18.47.20 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.20.16 Join lebellium [0] (~lebellium@89-92-253-36.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.30.26 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.37.13 Join this_is_a_nick [0] (~amofiuhr_@201.206.191.26) 19.42.08 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@ip-86-49-24-93.net.upcbroadband.cz) 19.43.21 Join dys [0] (~dys@tmo-080-165.customers.d1-online.com) 19.44.29 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@rockbox/developer/thomasjfox) 19.54.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.54.55 # am I muted? 19.55.00 # no 19.55.05 # should you be? 19.55.07 # good, thx 19.55.31 # bremner: I am bridged through matrix, sometimes my freenode nick doesnt work right 19.55.58 # I am working on a port for the sony NWZ-S615F 19.56.32 # I took it apart, scanned pcbs, found manuals etc but forum registration is disabled :-( 19.57.01 # can I get some help with that here? 20.01.58 # forum registration is disabled or the wiki? 20.02.32 # errr, wiki sorry 20.04.41 # ah ok so what you need to do is try to do the registration (clearly you already did) and take your name you tried to register and send a request by email to bjorn ( the address is at the bottom of the registration page) 20.04.59 # ok thx 20.05.42 # so send bjorn a request title it Rockbox Wiki Registration or something like that and give him your wiki user name and wait a week or two till he has a chance 20.06.13 # sounds doable 20.06.35 # then you'll need to ask for write access in here after you receive your user name and password 20.06.50 # do you want to put the data I have up for me? 20.07.05 # I have scans, service manual and complete schematics 20.07.10 # It is a bit annoying but it sure beats the alternative of a spammed wiki 20.07.51 # If you want them up now zip it up and put it someplace I can access it and I can put them up for you in the next day or two 20.08.26 # thank you! 20.08.33 # Ill post a link in a sec 20.08.48 # Include the test you want along with headings because I don't intend to be you editor just copy and paste lol 20.08.56 # *Text* 20.09.02 # ok ;-) 20.09.30 # unfortunately the scans and schematics are on my desktop at home so when I get back later today I'll link them for you 20.12.37 # no problem 20.13.46 # could you answer a n00b question? 20.14.22 # you are better off just asking it and someone might be able to answer it 20.15.23 # why does rockbox typically supplement the OEM fw instead of building a complete replacement? 20.15.58 # first safety 20.16.34 # how so? 20.17.16 # and it also depends on the player for instance most of the sansas the OF is compressed and our bootloader is placed beside it 20.18.18 # well if you screw something up royally you have a method to use the device and the sonys and agptek rocker do so more out of ease of porting because it takes a long time to do it from baremetal 20.19.00 # hmmm 20.19.07 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.19.29 # in those cases you have an already working interface you can hook 20.20.01 # ok, makes sense 20.28.11 # so, I downloaded the OEM firmware installer (windows) I unpacked it and it creates a file of about 11M that looks like the firmware. should I try to put this in the root dir and see if it updates? 20.33.09 # SonyNWZ I've no experience with it whatsoever I'd suggest reading the manual / wiki on it 20.33.29 # I did... 20.36.26 # well, it looks like scsitools will do it 20.36.36 # now I just need to see if it works 20.39.18 # would it be really stupid to just install a version or rockbox from a very similar device and see if it works? 20.40.56 # I don't think I'd risk my device but If you have a way to restore it I can't see it being a major problem 20.41.14 # hmm 20.41.17 # I think first I'd try dumping the device and making a backup 20.41.33 # how can I dump it? 20.44.10 # pamaury would be the official source on that 20.45.17 # I dont have the hardware available to easily dump the hardware 20.45.30 # flash* 20.49.11 # then maybe you shouldn't do it without more information I (We) wouldn't want you to brick your device with no way back 20.51.12 # agreed, I *did* find it in a pile of junk though ;-P 20.52.15 Quit ufdm (Quit: Leaving) 20.53.06 # still.. 21.02.15 Join sanchaez [0] (~sanchaez@reactos/developer/sanchaez) 21.03.35 Quit sanchaez_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21.07.17 # ok, I found a 'test' mode that allows flashing 21.14.34 # I successfuly flashed new fw! 21.15.27 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 21.15.58 # I suppose I can try a port now? 21.16.15 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 21.23.56 Join aze123 [0] (~lounge-us@78.194.171.126) 21.25.29 Join ssss117 [0] (4ec2ab7e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.78.194.171.126) 21.27.18 Quit ssss117 (Remote host closed the connection) 21.27.25 Quit aze123 (Remote host closed the connection) 21.44.25 # the wiki talks about "bootloader" vs "firmware" how are these different and which does what? 21.44.59 # I would assume "bootloader" is hardware init/load fw off main flash whereas fw is the actuall ui? 21.45.21 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 21.54.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.06.06 # danielp3344: exactly :) 22.06.36 # thx, are they usually on the same chip? 22.07.14 # no idea, I would guess so (saves costs) 22.07.48 # and for rockbox the actual fw is in the .rockbox dir correct? 22.19.09 Quit michaelni (Quit: Leaving) 22.20.22 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@d192-24-173-177.try.wideopenwest.com) 22.20.47 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 22.35.33 Quit Strife89 (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 22.37.11 Join Strife89 [0] (~quassel@adsl-98-67-61-92.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.50.52 Join ufdm [0] (~ufdm@c-75-72-5-49.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 23.04.37 Quit this_is_a_nick (Remote host closed the connection) 23.07.55 Quit lebellium (Quit: Leaving) 23.14.28 # <__builtin> massa (logs): usually we just develop in a gerrit patch 23.18.55 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 23.54.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"