--- Log for 11.04.120 Server: livingstone.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 18 hours ago 00.03.41 Quit yoook (Quit: Leaving.) 00.22.42 Quit reductum (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) 00.22.53 # bluebrother, I have another mini2g build up; it has an attempt to figure out what's leading to that data abort 00.37.55 Quit lebellium (Quit: Leaving) 01.05.38 Quit morgenstern092 (Remote host closed the connection) 01.17.13 Nick brasello is now known as lagfr (~brasello@anon-42-41.vpn.ipredator.se) 01.17.18 Nick lagfr is now known as lagfra (~brasello@anon-42-41.vpn.ipredator.se) 01.17.43 Nick lagfra is now known as fragal (~brasello@anon-42-41.vpn.ipredator.se) 01.31.18 # found a divide by zero crash on a file i have 01.31.28 # how do i reported bug 01.59.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.14.15 Quit heredoc (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.26.34 Join cockroach [0] (~blattodea@pdpc/supporter/active/cockroach) 02.28.26 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/ 02.29.06 # that's the proper way.. 02.33.10 # you could describe it here if it's something simple 02.57.44 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 03.04.36 Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@ool-18e4eaeb.dyn.optonline.net) 03.14.56 Quit Soap (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.19.31 # lemme get the steps 03.20.32 # hmm, maybe its not this specific track 03.20.46 # let me try jumping right to it instead of going from the resume playback point 03.21.36 # but rn the screen is white and says divide by zero at 03e8134c (0) 03.22.04 # pc:03e8134c sp:40002b28 03.22.10 # bt end 03.22.47 # and the ui did seem to be a bit laggy before it crashed, like it wasnt playing what was displayed but the thing before it until it ran out of buffer or w/e 03.24.33 # ok yeah it doesnt like this file 03.24.39 # going right to it crashes with the same thing 03.24.51 # lemme see if skipping past without loading it also crashes 03.25.44 # also while im bitching at things, it seems like either ive got dupes in my files or it jus tlikes to pick the same song twice when creating big shuffled playlists 03.25.54 # sometimes ive had the literal same song twice for no reason 03.26.05 # and in general sometimes it just repeats itself for no discernable reason 03.27.38 Join Nugettes [0] (4574c419@ool-4574c419.dyn.optonline.net) 03.27.52 # manually skipping past the song that crashes it seems to work 03.28.06 # but if it loads anything about that file past the name it dies to death 03.28.27 # skipping by going to the playlist that is 03.28.36 # even paused it still seems to die on that song 03.28.45 # idk if its got a corrupted character in the name or what 03.29.51 # speachy: any of that helpful? 03.31.16 # Hey it's me again. I wouldn't want to interrupt your discussion so I'll just leave this question here. It doesn't have to be answered right away. How do I make uncatallocated space useful again? 03.32.09 # you need to be more specific 03.32.21 # because the answer to that depends on a lot of variables we dont yet have 03.32.37 # Ah okay 03.33.03 # so the more you can tell us the better 03.33.59 # Lonoxmont, what's the file? there's a very good chance it's slightly corrupted and the rockbox decoder isn't sufficiently robust to deal with it 03.34.08 # So My ipod just recently started showing unallocated partition on the disk which I can not access it. I figured I probably wouldn't need linux to get this partition to show. Since before I used disk part to merge all partitions as one. 03.35.14 # Nugettes, how large is that unallocated section? It's not unusual to see some small slice on most drives due to partition alignment needs 03.35.23 # speachy: iirc its an ogg conversion of a youtube video, but im not 100% sure of its provenance. it didnt use to have this issue, so maybe quiet file corruption? 03.35.32 # its 1TB 03.35.40 # oh, and Loxomont, the target, firmware, etc etc. 03.35.40 # almost 2 03.35.51 # that 2TB is pure audio? 03.36.05 # no its empty 03.36.22 # nevermind, getting wires crossed 03.36.36 # ok lol 03.36.50 # speachy: ipod video 5.5 (arm of some kind i think?) , rockbox 3.15 03.36.50 # Nuggettes, other than firing up a tool that can mangle partitions.. not much that can be done 03.37.12 # hmm not even diskpart can help this situation? 03.37.24 # iflash quad adapter with 4x256gb samsungs iirc 03.37.29 # if you're not using Linux I'd recommend downloading the gparted live ISO and slapping it on a USB stick. 03.37.35 # ^ 03.37.40 # gparted live is good shit 03.37.56 # no sense in fighting with crappy tools, just go with what works. 03.38.25 # hmm right I cant use it on this computer I plan on doing so on the new computer but the new computer doesnt have a HTMI cabgle so im kinda stuck 03.38.58 # cable* 03.39.11 # your locla office supply store should have one 03.39.17 # Lonoxmont, it's certianly possible the file could have silently corrupted itself. Ogg is pretty forgiving though. 03.39.19 # as would local computer store 03.39.26 # hmm ok 03.39.34 # amazon also would have that 03.40.02 # speachy: should i try and fsck or do we not trust the iflash that much 03.40.49 # I'd try a fsck first, but if there's any way to confirm the file is indeed okay that would be the logical next stop 03.40.51 # step 03.40.53 # I switched out my mains computers HTMI cable and placed it in the new computer is the computer supposed to show a bios screen to set it up? 03.41.14 # the iflashes seem to be a little unreliable from what I've heard. 03.41.18 # Nothing appears after it the DELL logo pops up 03.41.55 # Nugettes: a bit out of scope for us to set up a computer :V 03.42.07 # true my bad 03.42.08 # but if its a prebuilt i would check the drive cables 03.42.20 # its brand new 03.42.46 # being new doesnt make cables any less likely to have vibrated loose 03.43.01 # they dont selastic them in or anything 03.43.21 # ah ok 03.43.33 # assuming its a tower 03.43.50 # if its a laptop then usually things hold together fairly well most of the time 03.44.34 # that makes sense 03.45.52 # usually for prebuilts the first thing that happens on power up is windows (assuming its got windows installed) goes through its out of box setup process 03.46.22 # so itl ask for your network info, microsoft account, set up pending updates etc before you can do anything with it 03.46.50 # yea. 03.46.55 # should be fairly quick to jump into that process, if it takes a really long time something might be borked 03.47.26 # but the screen is just blank after Dell logo appears 03.47.45 # is there more than one graphics output on that machine? 03.47.52 # could be its displaying something on another port 03.48.02 # and the hdmi just isnt turned on in the settings 03.48.09 # ive had that happen before on a machine 03.48.24 # again if its a laptop with a screen then that should just work 03.48.37 # but towers can be a little more tricky 03.48.50 # hmm maybe hdmi isnt turned on cause it says the screen will turn off in 4 min the little box with a timer on it displays 03.48.57 # also, if its got any addin graphics cards, under windows afaik that disables any onboard graphics 03.49.12 # k 03.49.19 # so you would need to plug into the card instead of anything on the motherboard 03.52.55 # how would I access this graphix card? 03.53.48 # first things first 03.53.53 # what form factor is this machine 03.53.57 # is it a laptop or a desktop 03.54.36 # desktop 03.56.08 # take a picture of the back with your phone and toss it somewhere we can look at it 03.56.13 # imgur is usually easy enough 03.56.37 # ..ff about that the pc is already tucked away... 03.56.50 # Its a HDMi if thats what you mean? 03.57.09 # well in any case you will probably need to adjust where cables are plugged in so you need to get it out anyways 03.57.34 # right but right now is not really the time.. 03.57.37 # a picture is worth a thousand words, seeing what you see will save us all a lot of time 03.57.56 # if the computer isnt working anyways then what use is it? 03.58.18 # it does its just the screen wont show 03.58.27 # iif the screen doesnt show 03.58.29 # you cant use it 03.58.32 # and therefore 03.58.40 # for all intents and purposes, its not usefully working 03.58.52 # right 03.59.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.59.36 # so drag it out and get a picture of the back where the cables go 03.59.52 # ok 04.00.05 # get a couple from various angles if you can, in case something blocks a view or w/e 04.00.46 # alright 04.16.30 # we dont nee dlike an elaborate photoshoot of it 04.16.38 # just enough so we arent flying blind 04.18.35 # lol okay 04.22.02 Quit ac_laptop (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 04.27.17 # im kinda busy at the moment 04.27.44 # here is an image https://topics-cdn.dell.com/Inspiron_3470_SetupandSpecs/images/GUID-8F72E452-20A6-446B-817C-125E13BFEB20-low.jpg 04.28.32 Quit MrZeus_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 04.28.49 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@unaffiliated/chrisb) 04.28.51 # alright, if you have any addon graphics cards they would be where number 9 is 04.29.18 # ah ok 04.29.19 # if theres nothing there but blank plates, you dont have an addon graphics card 04.29.41 # also, for the first setup i would try the vga port if it has one (and you dont have any addon cards) 04.29.50 # you can turn the hdmi on from there once you are in 04.32.37 # ok 04.33.14 Quit craftyguy (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 04.33.34 # thx for the info gtg 04.34.06 Part Nugettes 04.37.14 # drat, turned the entire build field yellow. 04.38.14 # my sansa e200 is wedging after playing one or two m4a/AAC files 04.38.58 # how large are the files? mp4 stream parsing is very memory intensive and bigger files don't always make it 04.40.18 # speachy: they are 12minute audio files and i did see the question addressed in 2018 on rockbox.org 04.40.45 # speachy: so the answer may be conversion to another format? 04.40.49 # I know I've run into this problem but with many-hour audiobooks 04.41.01 # that's the simple answer, unfortunately 04.41.35 # speachy: they are backed up in a beets database, so the transcoding might be automated 04.41.59 # it might also be embedded metadata/art 04.42.33 # speachy: ah, how can i check that? 04.42.38 # I wodner if there are any "sanity check your mp4 file" sites/tools out there. 04.44.04 # id say vlc but it tries its damndest to play whatever you throw at it... 04.44.07 # is ffmpeg .m4a .ogg efficient? 04.44.35 # sometimes ffmpeg blows the file size up 04.44.36 # good as any id imagine 04.44.47 # probably depends on what settings you feed it 04.47.30 # iirc there should be an ffmpeg2theora script/wrapper that makes it easy for making things into ogg 04.47.43 # ive used it before to get movies transcoded 04.49.54 Quit cockroach (Quit: leaving) 04.49.58 # straight up ffmpeg options can be a bit esoteric to say the least 04.54.01 # Lonoxmont: i have these files in beets, so beets can run the ffmpeg transcoding 04.54.53 # Lonoxmont: meaning, once the ffmpeg esoterics are set once, i should be able to do it reliably 04.56.03 # ah 04.56.31 # then again media manipulation and reliably rarely go hand in hand :P 05.07.31 Quit [7] (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.07.46 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.17.36 Join craftyguy [0] (~craftyguy@qutebrowser/dev/craftyguy) 05.59.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.36.21 Quit koniu (Remote host closed the connection) 06.38.09 Join koniu [0] (~koniu@gateway/tor-sasl/koniu) 07.59.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.14.50 Quit flabrus (Remote host closed the connection) 08.15.51 Join flabrus [0] (~beard@flab.tech) 08.16.08 Quit flabrus (Changing host) 08.16.08 Join flabrus [0] (~beard@unaffiliated/flabrus) 08.16.37 Quit koniu (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.20.24 Join koniu [0] (~koniu@gateway/tor-sasl/koniu) 08.26.18 Quit koniu (Remote host closed the connection) 08.26.45 Join koniu [0] (~koniu@gateway/tor-sasl/koniu) 09.02.18 Join flab [0] (~beard@flab.tech) 09.02.38 Quit flabrus (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.05.17 Quit koniu (Remote host closed the connection) 09.05.29 Join koniu [0] (~koniu@gateway/tor-sasl/koniu) 09.13.11 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:943f:d824:603c:43c2:1c4d:3d2) 09.38.30 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 09.44.53 Join yoook [0] (~ich@p5B0EEA24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.50.33 Join lebellium [0] (~lebellium@89-92-253-148.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 09.53.34 Part yoook 09.59.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.45.23 Join MrZeus_ [0] (~MrZeus@79-65-237-109.host.pobb.as13285.net) 10.49.11 Join prof_wolfff_ [0] (~prof_wolf@84.17.62.227) 11.54.42 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.54.43 Quit prof_wolfff_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 11.59.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.58.42 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: benedikt93) 12.59.44 Join benedikt93 [0] (~quassel@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 13.04.26 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 13.59.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.41.01 Quit ubervison (Remote host closed the connection) 14.49.49 Quit rasher (Changing host) 14.49.49 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 14.54.05 # speachy: now it hangs at the Rockbox logo. Somewhat of an improvement since I don't get to read any weird numbers anymore ;-) 14.54.24 # that's... odd. 14.55.29 Quit ChanServ (shutting down) 14.55.45 # I basically added code that should trigger PANICs in multiple places. Maybe that's being triggered before the rest of the system is ready. 14.56.07 # it's bcd32ff9e4M-200411 according to rockbox-info.txt 14.56.13 # I'll yank those out and just leave the extra info in the data abort. 14.56.27 # yep, that's the one. 14.56.41 # ok, just to make sure I've got the right file :) 14.56.58 # if oyu have a few minutes I'll spin up another for you now 14.57.32 # sure 14.59.09 # btw, if you want to cross-compiler Rockbox Utility for Windows: use mxe. 14.59.48 # doesn't build natively on Windows anymore these days due to the libcrypto++ dependency. Hasn't been fixed since. 15.00.15 # I couldn't do the cross compile because I lacked some of the qt5 libraries we pulled in 15.00.22 # new image up, same bac place. 15.03.16 Join ChanServ [0] (ChanServ@services.) 15.03.17 Mode "#rockbox +o ChanServ " by livingstone.freenode.net 15.03.39 # data abort at 000756ac 15.04.05 # but no further info in the panic screen. 15.04.05 # no additional output? 15.04.20 # pc:000756ac sp:4000ada0 15.04.23 # bt end 15.04.23 # okay, let me fix that 15.08.48 Quit ChanServ (*.net *.split) 15.08.51 # new one up. 15.10.27 Join ChanServ [0] (ChanServ@services.) 15.10.27 Mode "#rockbox +o ChanServ " by livingstone.freenode.net 15.12.29 # hangs at Logo. Now it identifies as 11eac0adc4M though. 15.17.08 # and yet another. this one does nothing other than add one additional line of output to the panic message. 15.17.34 # sorry, new image up in case that wasn't clear. same 11eac as before though 15.18.38 # Might make sense to have a temporary branch so you can have a commit for each build to make the version useful? 15.19.18 # yeah, if this continues... 15.19.51 # then again I could always change the info.txt by hand before I send it. :) 15.21.07 # data abort at 000756c4 pos 1 15.21.14 # sp:4000ada0 15.22.01 # yay, progress! 15.22.45 # that's in thread.c:inherit_priority() 15.33.07 # that code already has a null check.. 15.33.10 # okay, new image up. 15.34.04 # this one will report the actual pointer value. 15.34.22 Join heredoc [0] (~heredoc@2a01:7e01::f03c:91ff:fec1:de1d) 15.37.34 # btw, I have an ondio fm I can try on (finally have charged batteries for that around :) 15.39.31 # oh, cool! I'll build that right up.. 15.39.34 # 000756c4, pos 2024b581 15.39.54 # okay, that 'pos' is an unaligned value. 15.40.00 # oh, I already did a build some days ago. Lets try with that now :) 15.40.36 # If it doesn't immediately HACF I'll be quite pleasantly surprised. 15.43.01 # I wonder if that 'pos' is due to somethign not getting properly zero-initialized. 15.43.36 # it's unaligned _and_ lies outside system RAM. 15.56.34 # new one uloaded. 15.59.13 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: benedikt93) 15.59.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.59.46 Join benedikt93 [0] (~quassel@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 16.02.16 # one thing worth trying is forcing the PP targets to single-core operation 16.02.42 # that disables most of the PP-specific stuff, including the funky multicore threading code 16.03.23 # I'm getting exactly the same output with the new version 16.07.09 # I'm respinning the image to only use a single core. 16.07.27 # just trying to narrow the window.. 16.08.08 # okay, it's up. 16.17.45 # ah. That ondio has Rockbox flashed. That's why it's not loading the new firmware ... 16.19.07 # ok, now the mini2g boots. Trying to resume playback, ended up with prefetch abort at ffff(cutoff) pos 00000003 pc:fffffffe sp:40002c00 16.19.35 # voice works though. 16.19.47 # well, voicing the menus that is. 16.20.53 # Rockbox Info says "Buffer: 0kiB" which seems a bit strange to me. 16.34.18 # okay, so it's clear the first place to start is the PP-specific multicore code. 16.34.33 # that's a sign that the other arm7tdmi targets are likely okay 16.57.03 # * chrisb still transcoding 17.03.52 # <_Bilgus> Buffer: 0kiB that means the voice file has an offset issue 17.04.18 # <_Bilgus> FFS if only I could remember what the issue was 17.15.27 # hmm, what preferch abort, what was teh codec? mp3? 17.15.50 # and the voices are speex? 17.16.22 # <_Bilgus> It was something stupid but its been lost to the sands of time :| 17.30.39 # speachy: mp3, and it also happens when I try ogg 17.31.09 # on mp3 it paniced immediately, on ogg it showed the wps, but wasn't playing. Touching the wheel made it panic, so I guess it's at least similar. 17.31.36 # what arm7tdmi target is not PP? 17.31.47 # suppose it could still be threading wonkiness, but I'd have thought voice wouldn't work in that case. 17.32.04 # I don't know if there are any non-PP arm7tdmi targets. 17.32.53 # but we just narrowed the window from "everything arm7tdmi" to "definitely something in multi-cpu PP code" 17.33.37 # arm7tdmi shares a lot with newer arm targets, but there is some arm7tdmi-only asm code in the general arm platform code 17.39.00 # * speachy re-reads that last grammatically-challenged sentance and shudders. 17.41.35 Join prof_wolfff_ [0] (~prof_wolf@84.17.62.227) 17.56.01 # __builtin, any objection if I commit my current pile of SDL warning fixes? (I'll pull out the change in CFLAGS that trigger them..) 17.59.36 Quit prof_wolfff_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.59.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.07.10 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 18.09.57 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.12.53 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 18.19.30 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@213-47-68-29.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) 18.29.33 # spelling challenged, too? ;) 18.42.35 # ondiofm and gcc 4.9.4 seems to work fine. 18.44.14 # At least it boots find, playback works, fm works, plugins run (well, the ones I've tried, fractals exits with a "not enough memory" splash) 18.45.06 # even fractals works. 18.46.15 # recorded some noise from the microphone, works as well. 18.46.27 # So I guess I can say that sh1 seems to be unproblematic. 18.46.51 # holy crap, that's far better than I'd ever expected 18.51.43 # ok, screenshot doesn't work. When I enable screenshot and plug in the USB cable I'll end up with a Stkov USB 18.52.43 # interesting. After that the flashed 3.10 doesn't start anymore and complains about "no partition found" 18.53.00 # plug in usb, unplug it and 3.10 starts. 18.56.57 # ok, 3.10 works fine again afterwards if I pull the battery for a moment. Seems like shutting down the new version and then starting the player again leaves something in a weird state. 18.57.14 # not really an issue imo, you're usually not doing something like this :) 19.10.59 # might be worth seeing if 3.15 does the same 19.11.07 # don't know how many of these are actual regressions 19.11.13 # from gcc 4.9, I mean 19.11.23 # yep, thought of that as well :) 19.11.30 # haven't tried it yet though. 19.11.46 # highly questionable if the effort is worth it 19.12.24 # so it looks like the only serious regression so far is on the mini2g, and probably all other PP targets. 19.14.49 # oh, and 2048 is barely playable on the ondio due to the way it is displayed. Makes it hard to distinguish the fields. 19.18.39 # ok, 3.15 also gets the Stkov usb when screenshot mode is enabled. 19.21.17 # so ondiofm looks pretty good. I guess it's safe to say that all sh targets should be fine. 19.23.23 # <__builtin> speachy: yeah, go ahead 19.23.34 # <__builtin> I'll fix things if they break 19.30.09 # okay, it's gone in 19.59.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.05.04 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 20.15.56 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@port-92-193-81-79.dynamic.as20676.net) 20.32.22 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 21.59.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.23.18 Join ulmutul [0] (~ulmutul@dslb-146-060-190-078.146.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 22.24.50 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 22.40.09 Quit eldudeness (Remote host closed the connection) 22.46.52 Join ubervison [0] (~ubervison@2a02:aa12:b106:1b80:4978:337a:24bd:4bbc) 23.56.11 # * ulmutul realizes that he wasn't here for a long time 23.56.51 # speachy: I'm the guy who can test some of the PP targets, like Samsung, Philips, etc. 23.57.24 # FYI, the forums are now alive on their new host. DNS propogation not withstanding, everything should now work. 23.58.29 # If you like to provide test builds than it's best to start with Samsung YH925, because that's the DAP I use mostly for testing. Just don't expect instant feedback :) 23.58.37 # ulmutul, it's pretty clear that the PP5022 is busted with 4.9.4 (multithreading on multiple CPUs..) but other/older PPs might be useful 23.58.52 # ok, give me a couple... 23.58.58 # YH925 is PP5020