--- Log for 12.05.120 Server: hitchcock.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 0 hours ago 00.09.56 Quit skolem (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) 00.10.17 Join skolem [0] (~skolem@47.61.119.15) 00.14.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.21.18 Quit skolem (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) 00.21.34 Join skolem [0] (~skolem@47.61.119.15) 00.48.08 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 01.08.00 Quit skolem (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) 01.09.34 Join skolem [0] (~skolem@47.61.119.15) 01.37.20 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.43.05 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 02.14.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.34.43 Quit MrZeus__ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.57.40 Quit ac_laptop (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.07.29 Quit cockroach (Quit: leaving) 04.07.34 Join MrZeus__ [0] (~MrZeus@89-168-117-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 04.14.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.15.53 Quit MrZeus__ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.38.26 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05.39.07 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.07.29 # <__builtin> ulmutul (logs): what's the status of the infones port (g#946)? 06.07.31 # Gerrit review #946 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/946 : InfoNES - FS#2911 - NES Emulator for Color Targets (WIP) by Sebastian Leonhardt 06.07.45 # <__builtin> I'm thinking of cleaning it up for master 06.14.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.59.11 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 07.14.10 Quit GeekShadow (Excess Flood) 07.14.25 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@nzf.turmel.info) 07.14.25 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 07.14.25 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 07.21.57 Quit livvy (Quit: Life is more than IRC) 07.32.31 Quit amiconn (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 07.32.31 Quit pixelma (Quit: .) 07.35.17 Join amiconn [0] (jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 07.35.17 Join pixelma [0] (marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 07.36.49 Join Xeraser [0] (974c6752@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.151.76.103.82) 07.39.44 # Hello, sorry for the redundant question but I just got a 7th gen iPod Classic (or apparently it's still a 6th gen?) and I was curious to try out Rockbox on it. I've heard some people say that Rockbox either drained their battery really quickly OR that it extended their battery life compared to Apple's OS. I don't think I've seen mentions of it 07.39.44 # happening on specific models, just in general. What could it depend on? 08.06.16 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 08.14.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.25.12 Join livvy [0] (~livvy@2a02:8010:6391:0:517b:9c7e:414d:50f0) 08.28.43 Quit Xeraser (Quit: Connection closed) 08.33.37 Quit livvy (Quit: Life is more than IRC) 08.33.55 Join livvy [0] (~livvy@2a02:8010:6391:0:517b:9c7e:414d:50f0) 08.35.28 Quit livvy (Client Quit) 08.39.50 Join Xeraser [0] (974c6752@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.151.76.103.82) 08.48.20 Join livvy [0] (~livvy@2a02:8010:6391:0:517b:9c7e:414d:50f0) 08.50.28 Quit livvy (Client Quit) 08.50.39 Join livvy [0] (~livvy@2a02:8010:6391:0:517b:9c7e:414d:50f0) 08.55.49 Quit livvy (Quit: Life is more than IRC) 08.55.56 Quit Xeraser (Quit: Connection closed) 08.56.47 Join Xeraser [0] (974c6752@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.151.76.103.82) 09.01.53 Join livvy [0] (~livvy@gateway/tor-sasl/livvy) 09.08.57 Join dys [0] (~dys@tmo-103-106.customers.d1-online.com) 09.18.07 Quit Xeraser (Quit: Connection closed) 09.35.09 Join petur [0] (~petur@199.59.5.111) 09.35.09 Quit petur (Changing host) 09.35.09 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.36.54 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@ip5f5acf9f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 09.41.32 Quit ZincAlloy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.10.36 Join CH23 [0] (~CH23@ip565b0692.direct-adsl.nl) 10.11.56 # hey y'all, I can't get the rockbox utility running on my x64 linux machine, it tells me "./RockboxUtility: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Gui.so.5: version `Qt_5' not found (required by ./RockboxUtility)" 10.12.32 # I do have it installed, so i have no idea why rockboxutility says no 10.13.44 # same goes for libQt5Widgets, Network, and Core 10.14.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.37.23 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~PimpiN8@178.239.173.228) 11.36.57 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.48.47 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 11.53.41 # hello, maybe i can try to help you. on what distro are you? 11.54.02 # and from where did you get RockboxUtility? 11.55.25 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@nzf.turmel.info) 11.55.25 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 11.55.25 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 12.14.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.19.15 Quit tomf (Quit: cinnamon and gravy!) 12.21.12 Join tomf [0] (tomf@our.lady.of.perpetual.faith) 12.37.31 Quit Lonoxmont (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12.38.33 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.44.00 Join Lonoxmont [0] (~lonoxmont@075-139-229-057.biz.spectrum.com) 12.44.08 # have you tried running it as root? 12.44.11 # hi skolem, i'm on trisquel8, which is based on ubuntu 16.0.4. i got rockbox utility from the rockbox website, http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/linux/RockboxUtility-v1.4.1-64bit.tar.bz2 12.44.46 # as root i get the same errors 12.45.23 # have you checked if the path actually exists? 12.45.29 # maybe your distro installs it somewhere else 12.48.50 # they're in that location 12.49.25 # did you run is as root or with sudo? sometimes that makes a difference 12.50.07 # i tried both now, result is the same 12.50.13 # shoot 12.50.36 # i feel the same :P 12.51.12 # wait 12.51.19 # are you the ch23 from telegram? 12.51.28 # yes I am 12.51.31 # lol 12.51.55 # congrats on being the first person to have entered two separated online identities of mine 12.52.14 # achievement unlocked: accidental stalker 12.53.00 # i have no idea who you are there though 12.53.14 # let's keep it that way 12.53.19 # feel free to PM 12.53.21 # or not, okay 12.54.06 # well, sorry for asking, but have you tried the obvious updating and restarting your machine? 12.54.48 # yeah i did 12.54.56 # wait, updating i did not try 12.57.08 # nope it did nothing 13.00.25 # could i maybe have a wrong subversion? 13.06.04 # although i'd love to solve this issue, the thing I really want to do is to update the bootloader of my ipod classic, can that be done without losing the data on the iPod, using some alternative way? 13.33.23 Join skolem1 [0] (~skolem@47.61.119.15) 13.49.32 Quit skolem1 (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) 13.54.34 Join MrZeus__ [0] (~MrZeus@89-168-117-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 14.01.25 Quit advcomp2019 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.14.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.29.33 Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@ool-18e4eaeb.dyn.optonline.net) 14.29.35 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.34.49 Quit skolem (Quit: /save) 14.35.08 Join skolem [0] (~skolem@47.61.119.15) 15.40.46 Join langest [0] (~langest@89.238.183.61) 16.14.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.18.07 Quit massiveH (Quit: Leaving) 16.35.19 Quit PimpiN8 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 17.11.36 Quit Soap (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.39.38 Join skolem1 [0] (~skolem@47.61.119.15) 17.41.04 Quit skolem1 (Client Quit) 17.52.20 Quit langest (Remote host closed the connection) 18.14.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.26.09 Quit blackyus17 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 18.37.50 # turns out my bootloader was still up to date 18.38.27 # i did not manage to solve the issue with qt5, instead i used my work laptop which runs windows 18.43.58 Quit petur (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 18.58.57 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@ip5f5acf9f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 18.59.02 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 19.45.02 Join blackyus17 [0] (~blackyus1@ip189.ip-144-217-213.net) 19.48.23 Join cereal_eater [0] (506e61e4@80-110-97-228.cgn.dynamic.surfer.at) 19.50.50 # speachy: in regard to the commit that seems to cause the m:Robe 500 hang on boot, I can confirm that revision 8bd992c (before this commit) works and revision 3e2b50e (after this commit) doesn't work. 19.51.04 # what was the purpose of this commit? 19.54.45 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 19.56.25 # I mean, it must have been important. 19.58.58 # gevaerts: by the way, resetting the m:Robe is done using the remote and pressing the "Heart" button, the "Mode" button and the "Play" button simultaneously. 20.02.56 Quit CH23 (Quit: Leaving) 20.03.06 # ...it's a linking order thing. 20.04.04 # so have you done a 'git revert b0de98ad' to see if master without that one commit does indeed work? 20.05.08 # because my gut tells me the actual problem is something else, but is exacerbated/hidden by that commit. 20.05.39 # no I had problems doing that I did git checkout 8bd992c and git checkout 8bd992c and compiled the builds 20.06.42 # okay. 20.07.35 # it reverts cleanly... 20.09.24 # Can you try out a couple of builds for me? One will be git master, but with the newer toolchain 20.10.15 # yes of course 20.10.33 # http://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/rb-mr500-1.zip 20.11.09 # http://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/rb-mr500-2.zip 20.11.31 # the second is git master, with the new toolchain, with commit b0de98ad reverted. 20.14.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.17.51 # both work 20.21.45 Join sakax [0] (~r0b0t@unaffiliated/r0b0t) 20.22.13 # ...interesting! 20.23.12 # so your problem will just go away with the new toolchain. 20.23.45 # oh, that's great news 20.24.12 # and that problematic commit is a canary rather than the source of the actual problem 20.27.05 # I see 20.32.59 # hmm. 20.33.27 # stupid question, but how do I install the new toolchain? do I need to update it on my Linux system? Can't find a guide. 20.34.10 # you'll need to snag a commit out of gerrit. basically the only reason I haven't merged it is that it (badly) breaks the various portalplayer targets. 20.35.12 # g#2305 20.35.14 # Gerrit review #2305 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2305 : Build: Bump all compilers to GCC 4.9.4 (DO NOT MERGE YET) by Solomon Peachy 20.37.00 # before you try to grab that commit and rebuild toolchains, I have one or two more builds for you 20.37.15 # the same thing as before, but with the old toolchain 20.37.41 # ok 20.41.54 # http://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/rb-mr500-3.zip 20.43.55 # http://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/rb-mr500-4.zip 20.44.10 # git master with the old/current toolchain, and master with that commit reverted. 20.47.19 # 3 hangs on boot, 4 works 20.47.25 # ok. 20.47.30 # one more coming. 20.48.39 # I am happy to test 20.52.37 # http://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/rb-mr500-5.zip 20.54.53 # this doesn't work 20.55.53 # http://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/rb-mr500-6.zip 20.56.46 # that fixes an out-of-bounds error in the USB code.. but probably unrelated to the hang 20.58.37 # no, this build also doesn't work 20.59.57 # http://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/rb-mr500-7.zip 21.02.54 # doesn't work 21.03.05 # okay 21.03.27 # so it's the toolchain, not the compile flags, that makes the difference. 21.04.41 # a build from 2012 also works, does that mean, there was a different toolchain back then? 21.08.27 # I think the underlying problem is that two blocks of code that need to be "close" to each other are not. 21.09.04 # the link order change in that commit drastically altered the locality of a lot of code 21.10.16 # the newer toolchain keeps things closer together. That could be due to improvements in auto-optimization, better recognition that the code needs to be kept together, or pure coincidence. 21.11.25 # the fundamental "bug" here might be that some code function is missing an attribute. 21.11.55 # (ie that explicitly tells the compiler that it needs to be grouped in a given place) 21.12.34 # ...and the newer compiler might be figuring that out automagically. Or perhaps is simply better at code generation in general. 21.16.32 # ok, that sounds wellfounded 21.17.27 # thank you for your help speachy, I'll stay with one of the builds you provided till then 21.23.48 # no problem. wish I could have narrowed this down a bit better, but at least a legit bugfix seems to have come out of this. 21.24.43 # your help is much appreciated 21.50.02 Quit cereal_eater (Remote host closed the connection) 22.14.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.30.50 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~PimpiN8@213.232.87.64) 23.41.00 Quit skolem (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.41.33 Join cockroach [0] (~blattodea@pdpc/supporter/active/cockroach) 23.43.46 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 23.44.12 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 23.53.17 Quit Zardoz (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)